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saber marine 04-28-2013 04:41 PM

New Saber Boat Build
 
It's time for some new Saber action. Saber Marine has got things lined up to start a new boat soon. If anyone is interested or knows of some interest point them our direction. If no-one jumps on board right away then we are going to build a spec boat, probably a 28 Offshore twin. What does the Saber Nation think the perfect spec boat would be?

We have been working to update a few things such as interior and graphics to go with the proven Saber hulls. We will also take any current Saber owners boat on trade for someone looking to upgrade. Call or e-mail for more details.
"[email protected] " or (616) 837-6666.

More details to follow.

thanks, Doug Geelhoed

POWERPLAY J 04-28-2013 05:33 PM

Great to hear! Awesome boats.

phragle 04-28-2013 06:23 PM

New ownership?

hotjava66 04-28-2013 07:48 PM

Great to hear Doug, excited to see a new build coming up. I think you know my dream 28, semi staggered Merc 565 or Ilmor 570's with a 5 man stand up interior and a minimal cabin similar to Wicked Won.

saber marine 04-28-2013 10:15 PM

"New Ownership?"

No, but have lined up some investment, and I think the timing is right.

cfischer 04-29-2013 12:36 AM

34' short or full staggered with NA Chief 800s and 3a's on boxes

Chris 04-29-2013 07:04 AM

a 28 with twin ilmors would be a great boat!

KRAUSMOTORSPORTS 04-29-2013 07:06 AM

Hhhhmmmmm I'm looking to upgrade in a year or two for 31' and up! You now have my undivided attention!

FunHome 04-29-2013 10:32 AM

28 Saber with twin LS based small blocks!! Like the LS motors from Mast Motorsports!!

Then next...

Seeing the love for the Saber 28's I think you need to build another 34 with twin 525's or similar...

hogie roll 04-29-2013 02:17 PM


Originally Posted by FunHome (Post 3915180)
28 Saber with twin LS based small blocks!! Like the LS motors from Mast Motorsports!!

Then next...

Seeing the love for the Saber 28's I think you need to build another 34 with twin 525's or similar...

Yeah, small boat with twin LS and ASDs!

I'm to broke though, so my opinion may not matter.

POWERPLAY J 04-29-2013 02:55 PM

Love the 28 but a 34 with the new 565's and ITS would be pretty bad ass!

hotjava66 04-29-2013 03:18 PM


Originally Posted by POWERPLAY J (Post 3915371)
Love the 28 but a 34 with the new 565's and ITS would be pretty bad ass!

Yeah, or even better 700/ITS

POWERPLAY J 04-29-2013 03:43 PM


Originally Posted by hotjava66 (Post 3915389)
Yeah, or even better 700/ITS

Oooohhhh now that would be sweet! I only mentioned the 565 build to be budget concious. Short stagger 34 with Sterling 850's and #6 if I had lottery money... :whistle:

hotjava66 04-29-2013 08:38 PM


Originally Posted by POWERPLAY J (Post 3915410)
Oooohhhh now that would be sweet! I only mentioned the 565 build to be budget concious. Short stagger 34 with Sterling 850's and #6 if I had lottery money... :whistle:

Lottery money would be a 47 with huge power and Arnesons

Stormrider 04-30-2013 08:01 AM


Originally Posted by Chris (Post 3915062)
a 28 with twin ilmors would be a great boat!

x 2
Keep it simple for a spec boat.
Great to see you keeping things going!

cougarman 04-30-2013 08:56 AM


Originally Posted by saber marine (Post 3914756)
It's time for some new Saber action. Saber Marine has got things lined up to start a new boat soon. If anyone is interested or knows of some interest point them our direction. If no-one jumps on board right away then we are going to build a spec boat, probably a 28 Offshore twin. What does the Saber Nation think the perfect spec boat would be?

We have been working to update a few things such as interior and graphics to go with the proven Saber hulls. We will also take any current Saber owners boat on trade for someone looking to upgrade. Call or e-mail for more details.
"[email protected] " or (616) 837-6666.

More details to follow.

thanks, Doug Geelhoed

Doug,

Great News ! Idea's ????

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm


Always thought an all business 28' like
Wicked Won would be the ticket.

But take it a step furthur, since power
Package's are so much more reliable these
days...


Whats your thought's on a Single Engine
#6 boat like Check300's you did the work on?

Power doesn't need to be 1,500hp,..but it could be.

But I also think anything from 700 to 1,200
with a #6 would be the bullet proof set up.

Still balance well in the CG's and still balance
well in the pocket book when compared
to twin everything??


Jon

rob vanharten 04-30-2013 11:22 AM


Originally Posted by cougarman (Post 3915899)
Doug,

Great News ! Idea's ????

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm


Always thought an all business 28' like
Wicked Won would be the ticket.

But take it a step furthur, since power
Package's are so much more reliable these
days...


Whats your thought's on a Single Engine
#6 boat like Check300's you did the work on?

Power doesn't need to be 1,500hp,..but it could be.

But I also think anything from 700 to 1,200
with a #6 would be the bullet proof set up.

Still balance well in the CG's and still balance
well in the pocket book when compared
to twin everything??


Jon

This would be killer!!!:eekdrop:

FunHome 04-30-2013 01:16 PM

Those are all great dream builds....

But for a spec. build I'd stick with the twin small blocks and bravo drives... It will be pretty good on fuel and should post some good performance numbers when dialed in. The other idea for a spec. build would of course be a single 496 with a bravo... But the only thing with a single this size is that you probably aren't going to raise any eyebrows with its performance. You want to plant the seed in their mind and then let the custom builds come to you.

cougarman 04-30-2013 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by FunHome (Post 3916057)
Those are all great dream builds....

But for a spec. build I'd stick with the twin small blocks and bravo drives... It will be pretty good on fuel and should post some good performance numbers when dialed in. The other idea for a spec. build would of course be a single 496 with a bravo... But the only thing with a single this size is that you probably aren't going to raise any eyebrows with its performance. You want to plant the seed in their mind and then let the custom builds come to you.


In Regards to performance the 30' Check I'm discussing
with a single #6 runs 114 to 117 with single 1,500 turbo.

I think 700 to 1200 hp still extremly respectable and eyebrow raising.

1 less drive in the water, less weight to carry and fuel

And this 1,500 turbo is great on fuel, it's never in the boost
for your normal driving.

If you hit the sticks,...it drinks accordingly at that point.


Jon

jbraun2828 04-30-2013 02:27 PM

Awesome news Doug!! Can't wait to see the next build whatever it is. Jason

hotjava66 04-30-2013 02:43 PM

Single 710 Ilmor/Indy or Merc 700/ITS would be cool in a 28. I still think twin SBC/Bravos would be best, the Ilmor 570's or Mast 600's for SBC power.

I like the big single/six drive idea but not as a spec boat.

saber marine 05-01-2013 10:16 AM

Hmmmm? Twin SBC/ Bravos. That idea is growing on me. Does anyone know of any boats with those Mast motors installed?

--- Doug

cougarman 05-01-2013 11:07 AM


Originally Posted by saber marine (Post 3916716)
Hmmmm? Twin SBC/ Bravos. That idea is growing on me. Does anyone know of any boats with those Mast motors installed?

--- Doug

What are the Mast Engines Doug?



Jon

c_deezy 05-01-2013 01:11 PM

http://mastmotorsports.com/2010/



Originally Posted by cougarman (Post 3916746)
What are the Mast Engines Doug?



Jon


Chris 05-01-2013 03:06 PM

twin small blocks - already making me jealous

hotjava66 05-01-2013 08:00 PM


Originally Posted by Chris (Post 3916875)
twin small blocks - already making me jealous

Me too, been looking at building a pair of LS motors for mine.

bigboat28 05-01-2013 08:57 PM

Chris I will take your sweet motors lol if only I could afford them.

offshorexcursion 05-01-2013 10:52 PM

I also like the Twin Small Block. Strong, fast, reliable. The bravo based drives should last decent.

IF you go with any big block power in any size PLEASE do not install crappy bravos. IMO more power needs Arnesons, #6's, Indys, etc.

Tough to know what will actually SELL and help the company. But IMO someone buying a new Offshore boat is buying it for the sole purpose of SPEED. SO whatever you do it better be fast, impressive fast, still crush waves better then the rest, but FAST!

Cool thread, thanks for sharing!

SABER28 05-01-2013 11:50 PM

as much as im loathed to say this, I think anything but mercury power is going to kill saleability. relatively unknown boat with completely unknown power.

remember , one off custom stuff may be cool but you need to think of this from a potential buyers prospective.

if im a working man and am going to finance this thing the last thing I want is to have motor issues 3 years into the payment book.

SABER28 05-02-2013 12:04 AM

in my business I buy and build what will sell, not what I like. something done as a spec boat has to appeal to the largest range of buyers possible.

if it was me ,I would build it with no cabin, a three pack and race hatches. and I probably just eliminated 98% of buyers.

hogie roll 05-02-2013 07:24 AM


Originally Posted by saber marine (Post 3916716)
Hmmmm? Twin SBC/ Bravos. That idea is growing on me. Does anyone know of any boats with those Mast motors installed?

--- Doug

Dude, ASD 6/8 kits! Bravo's blow and everyone knows it.

budd 05-02-2013 09:32 AM

twin whackers. merc 250 xs!! it would make the cockpit huge

wellcrafted 05-02-2013 09:49 AM


Originally Posted by budd (Post 3917380)
twin whackers. merc 250 xs!! it would make the cockpit huge


I would go either twin outboards , or single merc 600 sci / illmor 725 to keep cost down versus twin screws on a 28ft spec. boat , your speed would still up there .

JerrodGlover 05-02-2013 04:23 PM

What price range would a 28 with twin small blocks be in?

saber marine 05-03-2013 10:38 AM

There are a few different ways to go with small-blocks. Merc has a 383 "stroker" package available, rated at 350 HP with EFI, and can be had with a 3 year factory warrentee. A pair of those would make a sweet, no-fuss package. Give me a call @ (616) 837-6666 and I would be happy to give a quote.

--- Doug

cougarman 05-03-2013 02:23 PM


Originally Posted by saber marine (Post 3918198)
There are a few different ways to go with small-blocks. Merc has a 383 "stroker" package available, rated at 350 HP with EFI, and can be had with a 3 year factory warrentee. A pair of those would make a sweet, no-fuss package. Give me a call @ (616) 837-6666 and I would be happy to give a quote.

--- Doug


Any thoughts on some Twin Turbo Small blocks?
Fuel injected etc.

Low compression, great on fuel, and great power
when the sticks are leaned on?


Jon

saber marine 05-03-2013 08:43 PM

Twin turbo SBC, Wow!! Tons of potential there, just not aware of a sorted out marine package that I would turn over to a customer, and I don't want to be the guinea pig.

cougarman 05-06-2013 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by saber marine (Post 3918521)
Twin turbo SBC, Wow!! Tons of potential there, just not aware of a sorted out marine package that I would turn over to a customer, and I don't want to be the guinea pig.



Earhart Engineering!, Tom has built the small blocks too.

Big Block has been a wonderful piece!

Jon

saber marine 05-06-2013 03:21 PM


Originally Posted by cougarman (Post 3919848)
Earhart Engineering!, Tom has built the small blocks too.

Big Block has been a wonderful piece!

Jon

I know he's been playing with some v-6's; I'm not familiar with his sbc package, but all his stuff is nice.

30ftpanther 05-14-2013 10:02 AM


Originally Posted by saber marine (Post 3918521)
Twin turbo SBC, Wow!! Tons of potential there, just not aware of a sorted out marine package that I would turn over to a customer, and I don't want to be the guinea pig.


Hey,Saber Marine. Check out the specs. on this . http://www.gmpowertrain.com/Librarie...rine.sflb.ashx .two of these would make most 28' boaters happy.


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