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Old 02-02-2014 | 08:47 PM
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My engine hatch is also the rear bench, the brackets are still in place but no actuators.
Are these typically run with hydraulics shared from the trim or tab pump or are lifts typically electric? the boat is a wellcraft 260 eclipse[ATTACH=CONFIG]517784[/ATTACH]

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Most hatch lifts are electric.
You can't run hyd rams off the same pump as something else.
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Yep, Electric, hydro & air. Mine is Hydro in my Baja. Its a "kit" made by Bennett. It uses their pump, with 2-24" rams.

But every thing has it's ups and downs. The hyrdo is quiet, but it is sloooooow, and the reservoir on the pump isn't large enough to hold the oil needed to to fully extend the 24" rams.

Electric (ones I have seen) are "medium" speed. They are loud and the noise they make just isn't delightful at all. They draw more current also. On Steve's boat, if he opens the hatch, it makes the radio cut out due to the current draw.
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Old 02-03-2014 | 03:40 PM
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Yep, Electric, hydro & air. Mine is Hydro in my Baja. Its a "kit" made by Bennett. It uses their pump, with 2-24" rams.

But every thing has it's ups and downs. The hyrdo is quiet, but it is sloooooow, and the reservoir on the pump isn't large enough to hold the oil needed to to fully extend the 24" rams.

Electric (ones I have seen) are "medium" speed. They are loud and the noise they make just isn't delightful at all. They draw more current also. On Steve's boat, if he opens the hatch, it makes the radio cut out due to the current draw.
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are you sure it doesnt use teh same pump as the tabs?
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Old 02-03-2014 | 03:55 PM
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Most hatch lifts are electric.
You can't run hyd rams off the same pump as something else.
You actually could by adding a T and solenoid valves. I've done it not with boats but its definitely do able. All valves closed, whatever switch you hit activates motor and that solenoid valve while the others remain closes.
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Originally Posted by stimleck
My engine hatch is also the rear bench, the brackets are still in place but no actuators.
Are these typically run with hydraulics shared from the trim or tab pump or are lifts typically electric? the boat is a wellcraft 260 eclipse[ATTACH=CONFIG]517784[/ATTACH]

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Electric are cheap they work just fine you can pick one up for under 100 dollars had my 24" electric for 6 yrs with no problem
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Electric are cheap they work just fine you can pick one up for under 100 dollars had my 24" electric for 6 yrs with no problem
thanks any idea where? the ones I see online are 300+
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Old 02-04-2014 | 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by 92nsx
Electric (ones I have seen) are "medium" speed. They are loud and the noise they make just isn't delightful at all. They draw more current also. On Steve's boat, if he opens the hatch, it makes the radio cut out due to the current draw.
Your friend Steve might want to look into running his off of a couple of relays with 8-10AWG leads off of the battery. It will be twice as fast and no radio cutting out.
http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/g...ft-switch.html
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Old 02-05-2014 | 07:33 AM
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Originally Posted by stimleck
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are you sure it doesnt use teh same pump as the tabs?
Yes Im sure. I have 2 bannett pumps on my transom. (2 of the same model pumps). One for tabs, other for hatch lift. For the hatch pluming see post below. T fittings.

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You actually could by adding a T and solenoid valves. I've done it not with boats but its definitely do able. All valves closed, whatever switch you hit activates motor and that solenoid valve while the others remain closes.
^^^^ Yep that sounds like how mine was plumed

This is the only photo I have right now of the pumps. In the corner of this pump you can see the pump for the lifting rams for the hatch. Plumed using "T" fittings. The other pump for the tabs is located right next to it. (out of the photo on the right)

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Old 02-05-2014 | 03:56 PM
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Try Great Lake skipper they got one for under 90 dollars it electric 27 in lift at 75 lbs
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