1997 Baja Outlaw top speed issue
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New to a 1997 Baja Outlaw 24 with a stock carbureted 454. Top speed at WOT is 46 MPH. RPMs are maxed at 4100-4200. Running a Mirage plus 23. Compression is around 120 in all 8. Had 2 people in the boat with half a tank of fuel. Checked the timing and that the secondaries are open. Not sputtering or running rough at all. Looking for some ideas on what could cause a loss in speed. I'm expecting low 60s with this setup.
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Yes compression tested with throttle wide open. timing checked at idle and 3000 rpm. Base rpm was 8 degrees btdc and at 3000 at 32 degrees. I did notice that the distributor on this is an automotive and not the thunderbolt. Not sure if that is relevant.
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120psi is low.
Which 454 model ? 330hp ? Or ????
What elevation are you at ?
Have to ask for diagnostics : you familiar with trimming outdrive and tabs for speed ?
Here are some good speed comparisons on your 24 outlaw:
454 Mag Top Speed
Which 454 model ? 330hp ? Or ????
What elevation are you at ?
Have to ask for diagnostics : you familiar with trimming outdrive and tabs for speed ?
Here are some good speed comparisons on your 24 outlaw:
454 Mag Top Speed
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That speed is not right. Nor is RPM. Something is wrong for sure.
Had a 97 24 SST with 454 carbed motor. Ran like 65ish
Is this on GPS or through pito tube stock speedometer?
I'm no mechanic but if it was only speed I think it would be easier to diagnose. Not getting the right RPM is weird. But 4100 RPM seems to match the speed. maybe throttle cable adjustment?
Had a 97 24 SST with 454 carbed motor. Ran like 65ish
Is this on GPS or through pito tube stock speedometer?
I'm no mechanic but if it was only speed I think it would be easier to diagnose. Not getting the right RPM is weird. But 4100 RPM seems to match the speed. maybe throttle cable adjustment?
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I believe it is the standard 454 model @ 330HP not the MAG. Elevation is appx 900-950 AMSL. I am familiar with the tabs and trim. At the 4100 RPM I had the tabs all the way up so not a factor and was playing with the drive slightly above and below level.
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That speed is not right. Nor is RPM. Something is wrong for sure.
Had a 97 24 SST with 454 carbed motor. Ran like 65ish
Is this on GPS or through pito tube stock speedometer?
I'm no mechanic but if it was only speed I think it would be easier to diagnose. Not getting the right RPM is weird. But 4100 RPM seems to match the speed. maybe throttle cable adjustment?
Had a 97 24 SST with 454 carbed motor. Ran like 65ish
Is this on GPS or through pito tube stock speedometer?
I'm no mechanic but if it was only speed I think it would be easier to diagnose. Not getting the right RPM is weird. But 4100 RPM seems to match the speed. maybe throttle cable adjustment?


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Yes I knocked around inside and out and did not notice anything soft or hollow, unfortunately did not have a moisture meter. I was concerned myself that the hull was waterlogged. I am planning on towing it to the local scrap yard to get a weight on it.
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You are at 25% prop slip at those numbers...ought to be in the 10% range for that boat...SOMETHING is not right. Have you confirmed it is a 1.50:1 ratio on the outdrive? There's a little decal on the top, port side.
For comparison, I am running 52 - 54 mph with the same engine using a Mercury Marine Revolution 4 prop, 21" pitch. I love this prop because of the awesome hole shot it gives if I have people wanting to ski or wakeboard, and holds the turns incredibly well...far better than the Mirage Plus I have tried. So, yeah...bigger boat, different hull and all but still...you have something seriously not right. Maybe a 1.32:1 ratio? Or the prop is just junk OR the hub is spun...which I assumed you checked first but THAT might be the whole problem.
For comparison, I am running 52 - 54 mph with the same engine using a Mercury Marine Revolution 4 prop, 21" pitch. I love this prop because of the awesome hole shot it gives if I have people wanting to ski or wakeboard, and holds the turns incredibly well...far better than the Mirage Plus I have tried. So, yeah...bigger boat, different hull and all but still...you have something seriously not right. Maybe a 1.32:1 ratio? Or the prop is just junk OR the hub is spun...which I assumed you checked first but THAT might be the whole problem.
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