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10-04-2010, 08:38 PM
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12 works fine better to much then to little.
Next upgrade will be downsizing the amount of batteries.
Currently running six Blue top optimas.
Thinking on three of these bad boys
http://www.odysseybatteries.com/battery/pc2150M.htm
Next upgrade will be downsizing the amount of batteries.
Currently running six Blue top optimas.
Thinking on three of these bad boys
http://www.odysseybatteries.com/battery/pc2150M.htm
10-05-2010, 07:30 AM
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Ok lets here the dirt.
I wanted to stay with a AGM style batteries.
The Odyssey's have a big crank rating.
I noticed Bob from Seaport inn has them on his Turbine
40 Skater Ed Mosmillers (RIP) creation.
I could literally cut the amount of batteries being used from 6
to 2.
I wanted to stay with a AGM style batteries.
The Odyssey's have a big crank rating.
I noticed Bob from Seaport inn has them on his Turbine
40 Skater Ed Mosmillers (RIP) creation.
I could literally cut the amount of batteries being used from 6
to 2.
10-05-2010, 07:53 AM
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Ok lets here the dirt.
I wanted to stay with a AGM style batteries.
The Odyssey's have a big crank rating.
I noticed Bob from Seaport inn has them on his Turbine
40 Skater Ed Mosmillers (RIP) creation.
I could literally cut the amount of batteries being used from 6
to 2.
I wanted to stay with a AGM style batteries.
The Odyssey's have a big crank rating.
I noticed Bob from Seaport inn has them on his Turbine
40 Skater Ed Mosmillers (RIP) creation.
I could literally cut the amount of batteries being used from 6
to 2.
Edit: forgot to include this link... some good info here:
http://www.vonwentzel.net/Battery/01.Type/index.html
Last edited by SS930; 10-05-2010 at 08:06 AM.
10-05-2010, 09:03 AM
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Great website thanks
The current configuration (no pun intended). (6 batteries total)
Two optima wired in parallel for powering the 12 volt
boat .Current draw is 2 Aeromotive 2000 fuel pumps, 2 electric radiator fans. these are the continuous loads. The 12 volt
batteries are being charged with a 130amp alternator.
Two Blue top optimas wired in series to get 24volt to spool the turbines. these get recharged via the 350amp generators on the
turbine.
Given the fact that the above configuration works. I am
safe to suggest that going to one 12 volt battery something with
a decent amp hour capacity would work on the 12volt side.
Cranking amps is really irrelevant.
On the engines.
The two optimas on each turbine are feeding 24 volt at 500amps
CCA to each turbine. Remember when we series batteries the amps divide by 2 and voltage doubles.
Some possible options would be to Drop two batteries and use a bank of two for both engines. (Cross Start). or run one 24 volt aviation battery (Vibration rating questionable in a boat). possibly maybe a forklift battery.
My objective is to simplify the setup and drop weight
Current weight is 240lbs of batteries.
Or maybe I should shut up and leave the tub alone and go for a freakin boat ride
The current configuration (no pun intended). (6 batteries total)
Two optima wired in parallel for powering the 12 volt
boat .Current draw is 2 Aeromotive 2000 fuel pumps, 2 electric radiator fans. these are the continuous loads. The 12 volt
batteries are being charged with a 130amp alternator.
Two Blue top optimas wired in series to get 24volt to spool the turbines. these get recharged via the 350amp generators on the
turbine.
Given the fact that the above configuration works. I am
safe to suggest that going to one 12 volt battery something with
a decent amp hour capacity would work on the 12volt side.
Cranking amps is really irrelevant.
On the engines.
The two optimas on each turbine are feeding 24 volt at 500amps
CCA to each turbine. Remember when we series batteries the amps divide by 2 and voltage doubles.
Some possible options would be to Drop two batteries and use a bank of two for both engines. (Cross Start). or run one 24 volt aviation battery (Vibration rating questionable in a boat). possibly maybe a forklift battery.
My objective is to simplify the setup and drop weight
Current weight is 240lbs of batteries.
Or maybe I should shut up and leave the tub alone and go for a freakin boat ride
10-05-2010, 11:04 AM
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NP, you can repay with a boat ride.
I think you're probably right regarding the 12V side... as long as it doesn't have to feed those pumps/fans for long without the 130A alternator feeding it, which I doubt that's the case. I think you'd probably be fine with half of what you have. You might try just disconnecting one of the two existing batteries (but leave it and the wiring in the boat) for a while and see how it works out.
On the 24V side, I know the weight is an issue, but I REALLY like the redundancy of having separate batteries for each side. Then again, I dont have SeaTow.
Honestly, you obviously have a lot more coin than I do, but if it were mine, I'd wait a couple years for the existing batteries to get closer to the end of their useful lives before I tossed/reconfigured the 24V side. But that's just me.
The current configuration (no pun intended). (6 batteries total)
Two optima wired in parallel for powering the 12 volt
boat .Current draw is 2 Aeromotive 2000 fuel pumps, 2 electric radiator fans. these are the continuous loads. The 12 volt
batteries are being charged with a 130amp alternator.
Two Blue top optimas wired in series to get 24volt to spool the turbines. these get recharged via the 350amp generators on the
turbine.
Given the fact that the above configuration works. I am
safe to suggest that going to one 12 volt battery something with
a decent amp hour capacity would work on the 12volt side.
Cranking amps is really irrelevant.
On the engines.
The two optimas on each turbine are feeding 24 volt at 500amps
CCA to each turbine. Remember when we series batteries the amps divide by 2 and voltage doubles.
Some possible options would be to Drop two batteries and use a bank of two for both engines. (Cross Start). or run one 24 volt aviation battery (Vibration rating questionable in a boat). possibly maybe a forklift battery.
My objective is to simplify the setup and drop weight
Current weight is 240lbs of batteries.
Or maybe I should shut up and leave the tub alone and go for a freakin boat ride
Two optima wired in parallel for powering the 12 volt
boat .Current draw is 2 Aeromotive 2000 fuel pumps, 2 electric radiator fans. these are the continuous loads. The 12 volt
batteries are being charged with a 130amp alternator.
Two Blue top optimas wired in series to get 24volt to spool the turbines. these get recharged via the 350amp generators on the
turbine.
Given the fact that the above configuration works. I am
safe to suggest that going to one 12 volt battery something with
a decent amp hour capacity would work on the 12volt side.
Cranking amps is really irrelevant.
On the engines.
The two optimas on each turbine are feeding 24 volt at 500amps
CCA to each turbine. Remember when we series batteries the amps divide by 2 and voltage doubles.
Some possible options would be to Drop two batteries and use a bank of two for both engines. (Cross Start). or run one 24 volt aviation battery (Vibration rating questionable in a boat). possibly maybe a forklift battery.
My objective is to simplify the setup and drop weight
Current weight is 240lbs of batteries.
Or maybe I should shut up and leave the tub alone and go for a freakin boat ride
On the 24V side, I know the weight is an issue, but I REALLY like the redundancy of having separate batteries for each side. Then again, I dont have SeaTow.
Honestly, you obviously have a lot more coin than I do, but if it were mine, I'd wait a couple years for the existing batteries to get closer to the end of their useful lives before I tossed/reconfigured the 24V side. But that's just me.
10-05-2010, 11:34 PM
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Great website thanks
The current configuration (no pun intended). (6 batteries total)
Two optima wired in parallel for powering the 12 volt
boat .Current draw is 2 Aeromotive 2000 fuel pumps, 2 electric radiator fans. these are the continuous loads. The 12 volt
batteries are being charged with a 130amp alternator.
Two Blue top optimas wired in series to get 24volt to spool the turbines. these get recharged via the 350amp generators on the
turbine.
Given the fact that the above configuration works. I am
safe to suggest that going to one 12 volt battery something with
a decent amp hour capacity would work on the 12volt side.
Cranking amps is really irrelevant.
On the engines.
The two optimas on each turbine are feeding 24 volt at 500amps
CCA to each turbine. Remember when we series batteries the amps divide by 2 and voltage doubles.
Some possible options would be to Drop two batteries and use a bank of two for both engines. (Cross Start). or run one 24 volt aviation battery (Vibration rating questionable in a boat). possibly maybe a forklift battery.
My objective is to simplify the setup and drop weight
Current weight is 240lbs of batteries.
Or maybe I should shut up and leave the tub alone and go for a freakin boat ride
The current configuration (no pun intended). (6 batteries total)
Two optima wired in parallel for powering the 12 volt
boat .Current draw is 2 Aeromotive 2000 fuel pumps, 2 electric radiator fans. these are the continuous loads. The 12 volt
batteries are being charged with a 130amp alternator.
Two Blue top optimas wired in series to get 24volt to spool the turbines. these get recharged via the 350amp generators on the
turbine.
Given the fact that the above configuration works. I am
safe to suggest that going to one 12 volt battery something with
a decent amp hour capacity would work on the 12volt side.
Cranking amps is really irrelevant.
On the engines.
The two optimas on each turbine are feeding 24 volt at 500amps
CCA to each turbine. Remember when we series batteries the amps divide by 2 and voltage doubles.
Some possible options would be to Drop two batteries and use a bank of two for both engines. (Cross Start). or run one 24 volt aviation battery (Vibration rating questionable in a boat). possibly maybe a forklift battery.
My objective is to simplify the setup and drop weight
Current weight is 240lbs of batteries.
Or maybe I should shut up and leave the tub alone and go for a freakin boat ride
10-06-2010, 09:00 PM
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own battery bank.
When spooling/starting it uses one bank (two 12 volt optimas
in series). Once started you switch to gen mode and it charges
that bank.
The other engine operates the same.
I also have a parallel switch to join the two
banks if needed. (both engines)
In example you could remove one bank flip the parallel
switch and spool/start the engine with the bank removed.
The 12 volt house power charge is supplied via the belt driven
starboard engine alternator shown somewhere in in the early pages of this mess.
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amps & volts
Ok lets here the dirt.
I wanted to stay with a AGM style batteries.
The Odyssey's have a big crank rating.
I noticed Bob from Seaport inn has them on his Turbine
40 Skater Ed Mosmillers (RIP) creation.
I could literally cut the amount of batteries being used from 6
to 2.
I wanted to stay with a AGM style batteries.
The Odyssey's have a big crank rating.
I noticed Bob from Seaport inn has them on his Turbine
40 Skater Ed Mosmillers (RIP) creation.
I could literally cut the amount of batteries being used from 6
to 2.
remember, this is I'CE cream for you dude see ya in K.W.
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