Outboard skater BS thread!
05-18-2014 | 04:26 PM
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Steve,
Do you have any issues with the motors stalling when shifting in and out of gear. When I played around with the flywheels from DBR we were doing some testing but I did not like the fact the motors stalled from time to time while trying to dock.
Are your aluminum or just cut with dampner removed?
I have seen the dyno run with the Hydra tec tuner on the 250xs and it did work pretty good. They have not tested it with the 300xs. DBR says they did not see any gains with the tuner nor did Adam who did a ton of testing on a single engine talon over on scream and fly. Also if you look at the HP curve the motors really fall off over 6150 rpm. Do you know who sells the taylor tuners?
Thanks
Do you have any issues with the motors stalling when shifting in and out of gear. When I played around with the flywheels from DBR we were doing some testing but I did not like the fact the motors stalled from time to time while trying to dock.
Are your aluminum or just cut with dampner removed?
I have seen the dyno run with the Hydra tec tuner on the 250xs and it did work pretty good. They have not tested it with the 300xs. DBR says they did not see any gains with the tuner nor did Adam who did a ton of testing on a single engine talon over on scream and fly. Also if you look at the HP curve the motors really fall off over 6150 rpm. Do you know who sells the taylor tuners?
Thanks
05-18-2014 | 04:37 PM
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Three years ago when I started considering a build to replace my 28' the 32B flat deck with triple 300XS or twin DBR highly modified 300Xs where my first choice for power. Pete loves outboard boats but hates triples. He made it very clear he did not want to build a triple. Next we looked into DBR mods but Dave got hurt so we went with inboards and a 338 build
Now I've come back full circle to what I grew up with and could not be happier. I cannot believe how well the 308 runs with stock 300XS and the fuel economy it's nuts compared to a 300X. Is it a 28 with the acceleration and speed? No but I can't wait to see what she will do in some serious water. It's a tank with the huge tunnel.
So..... With triples out then who has modified a 300XS and what works? Definitely the billet seal kits and vent are on the to do list. How about DBR kits. Who has done one and what's the performance and reliability? Advantages disadvantages? Any others out there like Simon and Diamond doing 300XS mods?
Is a 110mph twin 300XS 308 or 32 build possible?
Now I've come back full circle to what I grew up with and could not be happier. I cannot believe how well the 308 runs with stock 300XS and the fuel economy it's nuts compared to a 300X. Is it a 28 with the acceleration and speed? No but I can't wait to see what she will do in some serious water. It's a tank with the huge tunnel.
So..... With triples out then who has modified a 300XS and what works? Definitely the billet seal kits and vent are on the to do list. How about DBR kits. Who has done one and what's the performance and reliability? Advantages disadvantages? Any others out there like Simon and Diamond doing 300XS mods?
Is a 110mph twin 300XS 308 or 32 build possible?
And to add more insult if you run down here in the high humidity you will loose another couple of MPHs.
I will know in the future if the 300x is that much better than opti. I not sure how far I will take the motors but really want to run them in a stock configuration first to see the real difference for myself with my set up on my boat. The compressor on the opti eats about 20hp according to DBR. The 300xs stock is around 305hp. I have heard numbers for the 300x anywhere from 325hp to as much as 340hp.
Bob says his 30' Skater ran 112 set on kill. That equates to 108 real world with 300x's.
What are you guys seeing with the 300xs configuration?
Lastly Noli, You cant use the 32' Gary has as it is totally different hull configuration and weight set up. He has run 110mph light from what I heard.
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05-19-2014 | 05:47 AM
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you guys blew this thread up with info LOL.
looking like we are limited...very limited at this point with the 300xs's. the milky gear case oil has a fix, we just need some REAL hp gain mods for these engines.
skate it think at this point with the 308's with 300xs's, upper 90's is going to be our everyday #'s. I'm confidant that 105 is there in good conditions though. I'd like to be able to run 100-102 consistently. guessing you will run 3 mph faster than that so there's our 105 # right there LOL.
looking like we are limited...very limited at this point with the 300xs's. the milky gear case oil has a fix, we just need some REAL hp gain mods for these engines.
skate it think at this point with the 308's with 300xs's, upper 90's is going to be our everyday #'s. I'm confidant that 105 is there in good conditions though. I'd like to be able to run 100-102 consistently. guessing you will run 3 mph faster than that so there's our 105 # right there LOL.
05-19-2014 | 10:20 AM
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you guys blew this thread up with info LOL.
looking like we are limited...very limited at this point with the 300xs's. the milky gear case oil has a fix, we just need some REAL hp gain mods for these engines.
skate it think at this point with the 308's with 300xs's, upper 90's is going to be our everyday #'s. I'm confidant that 105 is there in good conditions though. I'd like to be able to run 100-102 consistently. guessing you will run 3 mph faster than that so there's our 105 # right there LOL.
looking like we are limited...very limited at this point with the 300xs's. the milky gear case oil has a fix, we just need some REAL hp gain mods for these engines.
skate it think at this point with the 308's with 300xs's, upper 90's is going to be our everyday #'s. I'm confidant that 105 is there in good conditions though. I'd like to be able to run 100-102 consistently. guessing you will run 3 mph faster than that so there's our 105 # right there LOL.
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05-19-2014 | 02:51 PM
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05-19-2014 | 03:32 PM
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05-19-2014 | 07:56 PM
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05-20-2014 | 05:17 AM
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jmp, I've never seen that video... I liiiiiike it!! lol.
skate, is there something special about that green paint?
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05-20-2014 | 05:58 AM
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Stay out of the 21s' with twin 260s'. They are killers literally. A friend rolled his at our PR two years ago. The balance is awful, but, the acceleration was incredible and she hopped like a bronco.
05-20-2014 | 01:41 PM
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