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ktron 04-19-2017 01:41 PM


Originally Posted by AZMIDLYF (Post 4547569)
Grant stated that the motors were completely stock on the 368. With the notch on that rig he needed 15s or the motors would be in the sky.

Yes, ECU's are stock on Matt's boat.

AZMIDLYF 04-19-2017 03:40 PM

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precisiondetails 04-19-2017 04:42 PM


Originally Posted by Skater30 (Post 4547625)
It's great to see these 400 boats getting sorted-out. When Dave get's his over-hub 5 blades done, it will add another element to dialing in these setups. In the overall scheme of things, the outboard boats are still relatively slow, but they are definitely getting there pretty quickly from where they were when the 400s were first released. I think we'll see 130s and 140s out of twin outboard powered boats in the next year or two. That's when they'll finally be running speeds that are acceptable as an alternative to inboard power imo. The inboard boats have gotten fast to the point of ridiculous, but 120mph just isn't fast enough for a lot of guys still. This is a very exciting time to be an "outboard guy"! :flag:

Yep I agree. Imagine some 500s on this 368. Probably 130s

mlb75 04-20-2017 10:12 AM

I was under the impression the ROS's did have a little more punch and a little less weight than the standard 400, maybe not though since I'm definitely not the one in the know. Regardless there are some great boats coming out with these and think as we get a few more people playing with them they'll learn some more about what they like and don't and find even more speed. I'm curious how many more people will go the ROS route and see what the difference is in real world performance.

As for not fast enough I agree with that to a point but also disagree. That's pretty fast in a much more reliable package, it also is much safer. How much time do people really spend cruising over 100 and if those people are being honest how safe is that? With the number of tragedy's we've seen the last few years I think a lot of people are starting to realize that the industry has gotten a little out of hand and dangerous and that's another reason for the trend towards center consoles away from the monster power cats.

I think the more people that get in these newer 30+ foot cats with 400's that will cruise at 100+ and run 110+ will convert over quicker than we think. It's a way to keep the ride, thrill, and cool factor of a cat but get back a level of safety and lower maintenance without going to a center console. I say 30+ foot because once you get over that length you start getting a lot better ride in rougher water. A 28 is and always will be a bad ride but they're not everyone's cup of tea in rougher water.

Skater30 04-20-2017 10:36 AM


Originally Posted by mlb75 (Post 4547934)
I was under the impression the ROS's did have a little more punch and a little less weight than the standard 400, maybe not though since I'm definitely not the one in the know. Regardless there are some great boats coming out with these and think as we get a few more people playing with them they'll learn some more about what they like and don't and find even more speed. I'm curious how many more people will go the ROS route and see what the difference is in real world performance.

As for not fast enough I agree with that to a point but also disagree. That's pretty fast in a much more reliable package, it also is much safer. How much time do people really spend cruising over 100 and if those people are being honest how safe is that? With the number of tragedy's we've seen the last few years I think a lot of people are starting to realize that the industry has gotten a little out of hand and dangerous and that's another reason for the trend towards center consoles away from the monster power cats.

I think the more people that get in these newer 30+ foot cats with 400's that will cruise at 100+ and run 110+ will convert over quicker than we think. It's a way to keep the ride, thrill, and cool factor of a cat but get back a level of safety and lower maintenance without going to a center console. I say 30+ foot because once you get over that length you start getting a lot better ride in rougher water. A 28 is and always will be a bad ride but they're not everyone's cup of tea in rougher water.

I agree with a lot of what you say, that's why I'm converting my 30 from inboards to outboards. But having owned two 110mph 28s, a 120mph 28 and my 160mph 30, I am only giving my opinion that when spending $400k+ on a 30'+ boat, I think most guys are going to want to go faster than 110-120. I'll be honest, I will barely be satisfied if my 30 runs 130 when it hits the water next year (with whatever motors Mercury offers at the time), and I'm really hoping it will top the 140 mark if I get some bigger power outboards that I'm hoping become available next year. If I end up having to put 400Rs on it, because that is the highest HP outboard still available next year, I guarantee they will only be on there until the bigger power motors become available. I know I will not be satisfied with the performance of 400Rs on it. I absolutely do not mind slowing my 30 down from the 150mph any day/any load monster that it was with the Sterling/ASD power, but I still want to still be able to run 130mph any day/any load with outboards - and I know for sure the 400s are not going to do that for me. Again, I am only speaking my opinion from the past 17 years of owning smaller Skaters, but I can't imagine I'm the only one that feels this way.

Skater30 04-21-2017 11:58 PM

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I'm so stoked, I get my first 28 back for the Summer while my 30 is back at the factory! 1998 28 with 300PMs. It only runs a best of 111, but it's such a great boat (as all 28 Skaters are). At least I'll be on the water in a fast cat this Summer........ :)

Australia 04-22-2017 04:21 AM

Hey, do 28 Skaters powered by 300XS motors really suck some seawater back in when doing over 100MPH ? I'm not seeing any dry salt under my cowls anywhere. Wondering if it could be doing it or is that only an issue on boats with 15in mids?

Taboma 04-22-2017 05:19 PM

Australia, Yes they do. I think if you go to Dave Bush Racing website, there is a video of a 300sx ingesting the spray from a boat, but if memory serves me right, it was not a cat. Mike Nass made alien style cowls like the X motors have for the 300SX's but no longer makes them. Somebody bought the molds and equipment to fab. them, but I have not heard of a start time of who it is. Maybe someone can chime in on this.

AZMIDLYF 04-23-2017 12:31 AM

Chris Dunn is taking over for Mike Nass now:
https://www.facebook.com/performance...PAGES_TIMELINE

Double Rigged 04-23-2017 08:20 PM

I can say for sure that they do. Having had a 28 with xs motors in the ocean here as well as running with Zero Patience this weekend you would not believe the mist up behind the cowling.
It's bad.


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