2004 30-y2k
 

Check out my Buddy's EXTRA CLEAN 2004 30-Y2K in the classifides!! Call Cary at 315-382-8828 with questions!

Dave

http://www.offshoreonlyclassifieds.c...o18402-en.html

I remember when that Y2K was the picture display boat at the Superboat Web Site. What a beautiful Y2K, good luck with the sale Cary.:D

No mention to a speed number !

425 HO and a whipple makes how much HP ????

600-650HP
http://whipplesuperchargers.com/product.asp?ProdID=1149

Real nice boat, but for 90K you can buy a new one with a blue motor.

Ok im guessing it goes 82-84, I dont remember that boat leaving the factory with an XR and ITS. I do remember the winter ride pictures ! Still love black. Some of you really like those blue motors dont you. I know one guy that has a 38 formula that goes through at least 2 motors a year. His engine builder does car engines !! LOL He wont listen, says it was this or that. At least he can get back and forth to the boat to clean it while the motors out again !!

I'd say you are about right on the top speed.
I am not a huge fan of the blue engines as I think they are over priced compared to custom power; just making a comparison Zup.
I also think that the 496/8.1 engines should be left naturally aspirated because they have a cast crank and cast pistons.
Like I say earlier, the boat does look real nice. Way out of my league at 90K though.

Pricey, perhaps a little more, but with a world wide network of dealers and repair service, well worth it !!!! :cool-smiley-011:

I ran into Cary a number of times this summer in the river. I have to say this is one clean boat and runs very well. He claimed it would run 84.

He has it set up very nice.

the biggest problem with custom power is re-sale. if you were to take all the current boats for sale, pull the custom power from them and replace with stock merc power be it black or blue...watch how fast they would sell or atleast get more activity...

Sure Gary, you and I know where we stand on this one.
The route that Cary took to have a 600+HP engine is not the one I would take, but the cost of his engine vs. yours is about 1/2.

90,000hmmmm....
How much woulda Y2K w/ 496mag HO, XR, external steering, monster gauges, & basic electronics cost? and how fast w/ the new hull?
I bet less than 90k and 75-77mph? I'd go new. 5yr warranty. And call raylar when i'm bored w/ 77.

And I know Pat w/ agree w/ me on this one. ;)

I hear you, but i didn't travel worldwide w/ my boat.
I barely left Long Island.
Zul775 <$ Merc 600.

Bern, you'd know. You barely hold a boat for 1 season.
And i'll tell you what, my boat sold cause it had custom power.
The buyer just 'loved' the way my engine looked.
Some hot rodders like to be different.
Could you imagine if all the ricers left their civics stock!

Storm, you make a valid point, I may end up with a Ron Potter motor, but I must say merc. racing would be my first choice on another new build. Hmmmmmmm, 850 !!!!!! Merc Racing:cool-smiley-011:

But will it last half as long ?????:cool-smiley-011:

Yes Storm, You and I are in agreement.
Stock Merc 496HO with a 5 year warranty.
If you want bigger power, go custom from a local marine engine builder.
Hell, for the cost of a 496HO Bravo X package, you can piece together a 500+HP/502 Bravo X. But you could only get a 1 year warranty.

That remains to be seen. The add says 220hours, but how many with the Whipple?
Like I said earlier, Cary chose a different route to 600-650HP than I would have. Raylar has a kit to turn a Merc 496 into a 600+HP naturally aspirated for about the same $$ as the Whipple and you end up with better forged internals. The Raylar kit for 600+ is not a bolt on though.

I would agree that if this boat had a Merc Racing 525 or 600 it would hold more value.
Now is the boat worth more with the Whipple bolted on the 496? To me yes, but I would also agree if she was still stock, there may be more interest.

Can the 496 handle the extra HP from The Whipple ??? I guess we are talking from 175 to 225 more. ????

Lets spin the 496 up to 5500 and see how long it will last !! If I had to pick choose between Garys 600 or Carys 600 You know good internals are key !! Gary wins

Gary,
I have done some reading/research on the new 496cube/8.1L engines. Left in their stock form they are great engines. They make more power and are more efficient than the 454OH and 502HO engines they replace.
There are two potential problems when bolting a supercharger onto a stock GM base 496 though. They have cast pistons and a cast crank. Cast pistons do not hold up as well as forged pistons in supercharged applications. They will melt down; it's not a question if, but when. The cast crank in the 496 has been said to be good for about 600HP by some of the "experts". The 454HO and 502HO engines, of the past, have forged pistons and a forged crank making them better candidates for supercharging.
Now, I've made an assumption in my earlier posts that Cary just bolted on the Whipple. He may have changed the pistons and crank; if that is the case, it should be in his add.

Well sure Zup, you get what you pay for. The Merc 600 is the old school 502 base engine with special forged pistons for supercharging and a forged crank good for 750HP. Certainly not a mass produced engine like the 496Mag.

I fear that we are bashing Cary's boat a little. This is not our intention at all. However, I think that a number of us believe that the price tag on this beauty is a bit high...

Can anyone answer these questions... ballpark?
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Speed: The old hull went 72mph, new hull ? maybe 76mph.
Pice: 75-85K depending upon options.
http://www.superboatonline.com/30-Y2...erCruiser.html

Well said Pat, never want to bash Cary's Y2K, as I said, thats one good looking boat !!!! Hmmmmm, just a thought if his is 90 K whats mine worth ????:cool-smiley-011:

Not to sir things up G, but in today's market, I don't believe that either of your boats are worth anywhere near 90K.

My 2005 Y2K, 496MagHO, top speed ever, 74.1 gps, runs all day long at 71-72 through most seas. Bolting on a whipple is fine (I've done two sets of twin 496's personally on brand X boats where the owners know only two throttle positions and the second one is WOT- both these boats are running without fail, abusive use, and well into 100-200 hours on the blowers with NO FAILURES - the caveat is boost level and being sure fuel pressure is properly maintained at reasonable levels, e.g boost under 5-6 psi).

I probably will bolt on a large whipple (but tune to low boost levels) this winter to my 250+ hour 496, run it till she pukes, then build other power to match the larger sized whipple.

Pricing? Call JC...... you CANNOT beat SB value still....

My two cents...... :D

Ok then, i'm guessing 90k is a bit hi then.
For even $, i'd lose the extra 6mph, and gain a warranty and have it buit... myyyyyyyyyyyyyy waaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyy!

Well Keith, you have the experience. When you do your install, will you pull the engine out? Are you sure you don't want to at least change those cast pistons for forged? You will be changing the head gaskets, right?

i think that boat is absolutely gorgeous and also agree with you.

You Can Ask Any Price But Its What The Market Will Bear,, Look At My Boat Its A 2006 I Have Well Over 100K Into It Runs 106MPH Only Got 6 Hrs On It, Its A Beautiful Package And I Cant Get 70 K For It, .The Market On boats Is In The Toilet. Maybe Next Year Who Knows ???

its a shame without a doubt. but having bought and sold a few boats in my time, i've actually based a few purchases on the ability to re-sell when the time came. on the east coast its all about, Sea ray, formula, baja etc...try to sell a DCB or the like west coast boat out here...NO SHOT. Lightspeeds Kryp as well as a few others for sale ARE STEALS when it comes down to what it would cost to duplicate. i coulda gotten a deal on Jmemoli's old 28 pantera...the boat was gorgeous and needed nothing but was affraid of how hard it would be to re-sell or how much $$ i'd lose when it came time...

No need to pull the engine, as we've done these jobs from the top side without even cracking in to the heads. That's also why I wouldn't do new pistons - if I did that, I wouldn't stop there but go ahead and do a full rebuild. My real life experience around my area shows the 496s are pretty tough, within reason (just like how a Bravo drive can handle above 600 hp, if care is taken). The shop I worked for and deal with today has seen very few 496 issues, but the hours on them are just now getting higher (300+), so time will tell. I figure I will be building new power in 2008 for spring '09 install, so that will put me between 300-400 hours with the final ~150 being whippled. I expect to see ~85 mph and then who knows what I'll build. Looking at 572 and 598 packages, and stay around 650hp and my bravo perhaps. If I go too big I'll need Rick to send me an engine hatch with a hole in it, or get out my air saw...... :D

Your correct John, bad market for the seller, Great Market For The Buyer With CASH. Same stuff going on with housing market, in the last year my waterfront home went down in value.

i live in Beachwood..and do mortgages. have a lot of contracts coming in on homes in Bayville, Lacey and Lanoka. friend just purchased a waterfront in bayville, that was for sale last year for in the low 8's...he just paid 645 for it...the house was built in 2000 and sold for 525 when it was new...great time to buy. actually the market is coming back to normal pricing as the last 3-4 years all the housing prices have been unrealistically over inflated.

Hey this is Cary under axapowell's name.

First of all, the boat has ran a top speed of 86mph GPS in prerfect conditions, light fuel good air, ect....Low 80's every day. NO PROBLEMS at all.

This boat was rigged at SB by John and Myself. The ITS came from the factory.

As far as the Whipple...Dustin has been involved in this upgrade before I even bought the kit. He has been a great help keeping my set up reliable and fairly conservative. The Whipple has been on for 140 hours.

Price: You need to see this boat and review the list of add-ons...From the custom trailer to the ITS and the fact that it is a fresh water weekend only boat ...well you just need to see it. Perfect in every way,

Thanks for all the positive comments (and for Dave to post my boat for me), but if you would like to speak to me, even if you are not interested in purchasing my boat, I can be reached at 315-382-8828.

Anyone looking for a used Y2K at a resonable price will have to check with JC for an actual price of a New Y2K - Just got mine nicely rigged with the 525merc and paid well over a hundred...Materials and rigging is extremly expensive these days and other manufacturers are not as resonably priced as he is... Opening offer of $90K is high but chances are the serious buyer with cash on hand will not pay that...

You never know what someone is willing to pay until you get an offer. I had a guy call me about my boat and was doing some comparison shopping. He was buying a local built late 80,s 29 with twin 300,s for 40k! Needed and interior and had faded red gelcoat. He thought the gelcoat could be brought back easily HA HA and the interior would cost about 1500 LOL. I never saw the boat but did own a red boat and the only way to bring it back was to paint it. Big bucks. The point is someone he trusted said it was a good deal so he was buying the boat. So you never know!! Someone could look on line tommorow see 2 black 30,s and say one,s 129k and the other is 90k for the same boat and sold. Not really the same but you never know. Anyway good luck with the sale.