No ! The numbers I wanted were the numbers on that lottery ticket he played . He went from a little Donzi to a Y2K Superboat and now he's talking about a half million dollar rig .. Must have been some good numbers ! :lolhit:

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Go cat with canopy:

http://www.offshoreonly.com/classifi...b243_0-en.html

we can put a heater in for you when its cold
and air conditioning in the summer (17.5 lb unit)

run all day when it rains and be out of the weather

run poker runs on the weekends

can be set up for outboards with 15" mids or 20" mids, your choice

cost: canopy hull with interior: $73,000
hull and deck joins have no seams
all composites materials - no plywood
vacuum bagged
5 point harness
Ferrari style bucket seats
PPI interior

The factory is in Patchogue...come visit :)

speed: 107mph all day with 300X or 300XS (twins)

Noli on the classified add is says (The C30 will let you grow into this family oriented sport.) ... Now how the hell is that considered a family boat .

46 Rough Rider

This is a good start

http://www.offshoreonly.com/classifi...o34989-en.html

DAN IS ALL KNOWING HOW DARE YOU QUESTION HIS AUTHORITY!

In the water we boat in, not a lake, it can get very big on you. Having owned both in these water conditions a big vee bottom will better suit as a taxi in a 120mile each way travel, especially in big water. A big cat will be fine as well but as I said it better be bigger than 40. Do you know LIS water conditions Johnny or have made the run from the city to montauk?? I doubt it.

Wow, I go away for a day to get some work done and all kinds of interesting stuff happens.

Regarding the math on helicopters, it's approx $4k roundtrip on a commercial heli operator from NYC<->montauk and I'd expect to do 45 trips per season. That's 180k per season.

If you were looking for lottery numbers I'm no help. ;)

Did you forget I started racing? Did you forget were a Skater dealer? I garuntee I have as much experience running cats as you buddy. A 36 Skater will Spank any vee bottom under 40 foot in rough water. Period.
But your right....what do I know about rough water :lolhit:
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Were not talking smaller boats here......how many Skaters do you sell and stock a year or have over the past 10 years?? My good friend has a 36ft Skater and runs in LIS. It runs very well on most days. On the real rough days he gets beat. You can at least go slower in a vee and plow through it, if need be. You cant in a cat. Another friend had that experience this year coming out of Newport, RI in his 40 Skater. Doing a 240 mile round trip in big confused water I'd rather be in the vee. Can the cat handle it? Most of the time yes. Will it be smoother, no. Having to make the journey, no matter what the conditions are, since the boat IS his way of getting home every time, a BIG vee or very large cat should be the choice. If he doesnt mind getting beat up in rough rough water then go ahead buy a under 40ft cat. Also in a big big following sea you better know what your doing in a cat. On 75% of the days the cat will be great on the other 25%, good luck. Not taking anything away from cats. They are very fun boats to run. Just my personal experice running in these waters for years. Take it for what its worth. Do yourself a favor and when you are ready to make a move, test drive and or run all kinds off different boats in all kinds of water conditions.

I agree with the test drive before you buy. Actually, theres an all white 36 with 1/4 Canopies that we built on your turf. Used to stay at Between The Bridges. We dont stock, not for us, we built to order. In a following sea you better know what your doing in a cat?? Thats where cats shine! Get it on top and let the boat do the work, head on sea is where ya start to have issues. Im not going to sit here and argue with you, your too good for that. And for the record, no, we dont sell as many Skaters as big dealers, but the ones we do we rig ourselves, power ourselves and kick ass with. Our boats have set kilo records, endurance records, national championships and world championships. Pretty good for some clueless fools.

Johnny, love those aired out shots.
Can't See that being comfortable for the 2hr run w/ passengers.
If you can pick your times to run, the LIS can be an easy run... if you can't pick your times, there's gonna be days(not many) where you'll be F*cked!!!
This aint like running the hudson river north. Your passengers may not like to run at 60mph cruise.
IMO, a heavy boat will give you a nice ride, and you can slow it down a bit when it gets ugly out.
If you had to take a car service back to the city those 2-3x a summer where you couldn't run the boat, it wouldn't be the worst thing... sure would be cheaper than buying a boat that could do everything.

And do you plan on doing this all year or just May-Sept?
Edit: Sorry, just read 45 round trips a season... i'm gonna 'assume' that a trip a week?

Also, coming from lower west side of the city, you could always run the ocean.

Something along the lines of this would make a nice 9month a year commuter...
http://www.offshoreonly.com/classifi...o40132-en.html

Nobody called you a clueless fool! Both of you, at a young age, have an impressive amount of knowledge and experience. A V or Cat will work for him, but it is a matter of personal choice....his.

http://miami.craigslist.org/mdc/boa/2678683230.html
This has to be an old 38 Magnum... great project!
Nothing says it can be more like this...

If I needed something to get around reliably id pass on anything i/o
and go twin or trip o/b.

Also another option I'd personally consider would be a PROTECTOR BOAT. they're ugly and not exactly skater speeds. But a big one 35` TARGA would be a reliable 75+ mph boat..... Get it with a curtain for winter and it'll be useable and comfortable 10+ months a yr

Also ive ridden in a 28 And it was silky smooth in 4 to 5 `

Thanks for the thoughts guys...

The timing for the long haul trips is during the week from April thru October. No passengers.

I'm all for going for it in the rough but don't want to damage my back doing it.

Is this a daily commute?:eek:

There will be a number of days in that April/May and Sept/Oct period where you won't want to be in anything less then 40' of deep V and even then you are going to have to throttle back a bunch to avoid beating yourself up.. Any flexibility on when you run ? Just thinking about running the length of LIS in one of it's snotty NorEasters is making the clam chowder I had for lunch tickle the back of my throat.

Running that many hours each year, I'd be looking at stock outboard power to avoid rebuilds each year too.

It's mostly time flexible.

If the winds and waves are high or thunderstorms are around I don't go.
the basic idea is go east on Friday morning and west on Tuesday morning.

Of weather is non cooperative I drive.

In general, LIS is calmer in the mornings than afternoons. But really it's wind dependent wave action.

The concept is that boating will reduce total travel time by avoiding traffic.

The trips on those days mentioned, traffic won't be so bad.

perhaps we define bad traffic differently?