help decide...
 

Looks like I might be doing a lot more NYC->Montauk (120mi) trips next season. In my Y2K I'm concerned about it being too small for LI Sound travel on rough days and being a bit slow (496HO) and also having only one engine reliability.

Need input on what to do...

Options:

1) Sell the Y2K, buy a CC >30' with 2-3 optis or verados
2) Sell the Y2K, buy a >40' cat (MTI or Skater) and get there way faster
3) Keep the Y2K and do any of:
a: upgrade power
b: nothing
c: something you come up with

Thanks!

-ross

# 1 CC great idea, no optis, go merc Verado's
Or # 3a, I have an 800efi for you !!!! put you in the 92-94 mph range !!!

#2

oh and #2 is a canopied MTI or Skater. Safety first!

My vote-#3b... run it. That 496 is a reliable motor, imo.

OR #3a- Add a procharger to the mix with low boost (3.5psi) and I think it'd be plenty fast and remain reliable (if you feel like you must have more speed). I know most guys will take a chit on a procharged 496 with the cast internals, but I have seen enough proof of reliability to believe its a safe, reliable setup.. also, there is always the Raylar kits for it if you want to remain n/a. Or you could drop in different power all together..

I'm not a cat guy (love v-bottoms)... but might want to investigate insurance costs before you pull the trigger on a cat.

Insurance costs aren't really a factor that matters to me.

Important things are in order:

1) Safety (at speed and on long trips)
2) Reliability
3) Speed and not getting beat up at speed (70-100 would be great)
4) Easy to singlehand

Has to run on regular pump gas and have a 200+ mi range.

Cat is the only thing that fits most of your requirements.

Vee bottoms can fill all of his criteria. I've boated in LI sound my whole life. Buy a bigger vee bottom or very large cat.

Very true, but he only mentioned a cc as the other v option.. I know there are big cc's out there, but have no clue about how fast they run or handle the rough. I do know they'd be alot better around the dock vs a canopied cat singlehanded.

I guess bigger V is an option...

It honestly all comes down to how much money you are willing to spend. Insurance as mentioned before, for someone who hasnt owned a cat, could be double or triple. I had a 35 Motion cat and on rough days in the sound was not so fun. On the calm days it was great and alot of fun. I wouldnt buy another cat unless it was 40+ft for rough water even at that a 40 is small.

bigger Vs... just thoughs...
http://www.offshoreonly.com/classifi...o41544-en.html

http://www.offshoreonly.com/classifi...o42947-en.html

stormrider: the activator looks interesting but the drives, aren't they a bit weak for the power on them? The 37 outer limits is a bit gaudy for my taste and doesn't offer much protection from the elements.

Good point. I was thinking 40-44' on the cat... on a V maybe 38+

My buddy looked at that Activator and passed. I've run with Wild Child and its a good running boat.

Whipple and then a corona with a lime

Your Y2K and this Beauty, run on your XR !!!!

Rbarna- you looking for 'creature comforts' like usable cabin, etc, or is just reliability/good speed the big concern?

If you arent looking to get to insane about overnighting, and its more of a water taxi type thing, then a bigger CC with twin/tripples sounds about right. In that 30+ range many have small usable cuddy cabins....intrepid, deep impact, regulator...I looked at a bunch of them before I bought mine and all had some good products. If you want the bigger/slightly more usable cabin, etc, then you might want to look at a hustler/cigarette type boat....tons of them out there for sale right now, and twin 525's would make either run decent and be pretty reliable

A 44+ sized cat would be sweet, but just wondering if you would get the engine reliability you want, as I assume you would need some pretty hefty HP to make it run right

I wonder if you couldnt convert your Y2k to a twin outboard set up. Fill in the sterdrive hole, take off the swim platform, modify the back a little....sounds like a good project for Rick :)

I would go with a bigger boat,I had a Y2K the one that Dave built from MGD was a lot of fun and as I here still running great, miss that boat. But I bought a 39 Nor-Tech and its a big diffrence in the rough stuff. Take a look at the Nor-Tech and Statement builds some BadAzz boats they have some nice CC
that are being built.

No creature comforts at all. It's a point to point travel thing.

The Y2K feels awful small when LI Sound isn't flat.... I think I need to be >38' on the V and >42' on the Cat.

36 Skater will spank any vee bottom under 40 foot. Period.

http://www.offshoreonly.com/classifi...o39793-en.html

perhaps?

http://www.offshoreonly.com/classifi...o42744-en.html

very interesting! wonder what price and speeds are...

You are correct. You're going to get beat up in a 36 Skater. Especially since you have to run hard through it. On the non windy days that will be a fun boat!! I'd rather get stuck in the rough rough in a big vee than a cat any day

Clear your pm's

The Y2K is an awsome boat but the sound is unforgiving and can swallow you up like the Bermuda triangle!!! And is unpredictable and changes quickly! To get me to do what you want to do it would have to be a big V with reliable power. I can't say anything about a cat except for cost to purchase, and insure. There will also be days you just will not be able to run at all!! Or make it in but not be able to go back because of weather changes. I've seen 20 footers on the sound coming across on the Ferry to Orient. We were the last Ferry to cross that day, all others were cancelled. They should not have let ours go either!!!!

current wave data for LIS:
http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/show_plot.p...time_label=EST

A 40ft magnum w/ a pair of turbines could do the trick.
I think you could get it done for under $400k.

How about a 38 Top Gun?

http://www.offshoreonly.com/classifi...o43038-en.html

How much coin are you looking to spend ???

Trying to avoid helicopter travel so do the math...

rbarna what were the numbers ????

400-500 k ???:grinser010:

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if u like the superboat so much john does make a 34 my friend goes over a buck with his put some power in it 110 should be easy tripps

Thats going backwards .. To go from a modern day looking boat like the Y2K with its stepped hull and go to the 34 Super that looks like it needs to be at some vintage boat regatta . Hell he might as well go buy a restored Cigarette Mistress .

esI agree with Joe, the 34 Super is a great boat, But way to old school look. If Coen stretched the Y2K to a 36-38 added another foot on the beam Superboat would have had the BEST LOOKING IN THE WORLD.
Back to the question how much cash does rbama want to spend ???

And I would buy one in a Hart Beat !

My question was not how much he wanted to spend . My question was what were the numbers ?????????

why would you need a very large cat? a quality cat in the same size range as any v bottom will out perform the v in all aspects..

WE NEED NUMBERS, OR THIS THREAD IS USELESS.:kiss: