craigslist sutphens...
 

kind of a slow end of day...

20ft
http://hartford.craigslist.org/boa/544903526.html

18ft no pic
http://longisland.craigslist.org/boa/548010398.html

26twin
http://jacksonville.craigslist.org/boa/553552070.html

i really like the look of that 20 footer. are the volvo 280 sterndrives actually "bullet proof" on that application?

thats the one that really caught my attention.
400hp sbc is just right...
i think the 280s are great drives... not sure about parts around.
but for the 8000 range... looks like a decent deal.

That 20 is a great boat...from a solid family (both company and owner) of people that know performance boats...from what i know, never abused, well maintained...

I had a Volvo 290 on my 18" Gran Sport for about 20 years. Absolutely bulletproof, and shifted like butter. Hard to find good props, though. Had to have one customer built by Hill Props in CA. That 26' looks great in butt white...

Christian... you got anymore pics of it?
I just know, that eventhough its only 20ft and $9k, it'd be just as much maint as my old 24... and that's where the $ comes in. :(

Bet you could buy the 20 for $5.5k...

Sounds like you have experience. ;):cool-smiley-027:
I'm guessing no trailer.

My father had a 20' Cigarette with a 400 hp SBC and a 280 Volvo, he blew the upper gear case. That was 30 years ago too.

Oh, how right you are!! Tough market to sell...

hi dave...
uh........................no.
storm...
i'll se if jeff has more
c

Hey guys thanks for all the great compliments on my 20.

I am on the fence about selling her since the boat I was going to buy is no longer up for sale.

I may keep her and blow thru twin turbo it.

I have a turbocharged 69 bird (878HP carbed) and I am the moderator on a turbo board where I teach guys about turbocharging.
Its a cheap easy boat to run and build.

Dave911 $5.5 K wont do it.LOL

The boat needs some work here and there but the small block is brand new and built by famed engine builder Larry liefert (crew chief and engine builder for Paul Newman and many other GT1, Trans -am cars).

Its not an extravagant 355 just a well planned well machined engine its got maybe 15 hours on it. drive was gone through by a friend who is pretty well versed in volvo stuff and he claims the 290 although power robbing is bullet proof. he says it was the strongest vovlo drive made and is the work horse of the brand.
He also says it is usually on much larger boats.
I have talked to richie and he says this is a one off boat and he remembers it well.
LH drive and volvo 290.
The boat rides and handles well but the prop is all wrong for it. Its a mirage 151/4 19 for skiing. Really needs a 23 IMHO.

Bronson hill makes a 15 21 stainless for $200.00
Thanks Dave 911 for the hook up on that one.

I was looking to get into a 26 for the sound instead of lakes and the CT river but with gas prices and the housing economy (I am a builder ) slowing I am thinking easy trailer single engine may be the way to go for a few more years.

I am still up in the air on it to be honest. If I found the right 26 or maybe a 30 and got the right money for the boat.

It would be a totally different story.

OH yeah it does have a trailer too.

Single axle no brakes, not in to bad of shape and gets the job done kind of trailer. It really isn't all that pretty either though.

30ct, so i guess you do ski off it?
tube too?
is it kinda loud behind the boat???
i couldn't imagine being 50ft behind my old 24. but i had no mufflers.

Fast forward 4-5 years, and I'd be first on line to pony-up bucks for that 20 footer to show my baby-boy the fun of hot boats and skiing. A 20 Supthen, with a nice deep cockpit, sun lounge, and warmed-up small block with VP 290 would be a perfect family lake hot-rod.
My low-ball $5.5 is only cuz most people still have not heard of a Sutphen, so it's unlikely you'll get any reasonable offers. No offense meant. Late!

ct30....sorry, I feel your pain....freakin' markets&prices!
btw...sounds like my trailer...did we meet in a past life, too?

D911....uh...told ya'..:D
c

Actually I have had great response to the craigslist ad. I have had guys as far as texas calling on it.

I need some pics for the guys far away though. hard to sell a bot long distance with one pictureLOL.

No one has seemed to think the price was too high. many of them knew what it cost to do machine work etc and were pretty happy with the price.
suprisingly most are downsizing from bigger boats and want a lake boat thats cheaper to run.

Almost everyone who called either owned a sutphen or knew someone who owned a sutphen and were looking specifically for a 20 sut.

I was very suprised I thought people were in the dark about sutphens especially 20 footers.
I had 5 or 6 people from Jersey call on it. One guy from hartford who was moving to south america and wanted to ship it there.
A couple guys from Texas and one from south carolina.
Most were not from CT.
I just hate to pull the cover off and go through all that work to take pics then covering it all up again especially in the cold.

Dave no offense taken on the price thing. With the economy so bad I thought it would be a tougher sell too. just the opposite seems to be true I think its actually helping this little boat sell.


As far as skiing I am not a water skier the guy who owned it originally was a big skier. I have dragged some firends around with the old exhaust and motor bt not with the new stuff. I only have a few hr's on this set up so far.

It was really loud compared to the old log style manifolds it had thats why I put those big ole mufflers on it.(CT river cops)
Its still not quiet but its just about right for me.

The big issue with the boat right now is with the old 350 it would only spin 4800 RPM's WOT. Now with the new power it will twist the thing to the sky if you don't watch it.
It really needs alot more prop now.

Its such a fun little boat we had a blast on it this year.
Its like a jet ski you can bring your friends on with you.


I know C, me you and Dave 911 have way to much in common. Geography, Cars, Boats its crazy.
dave how old is your boy?

I have a 2 year old girl and she loved that boat this summer. I was a little worried she would freak out on it, but it was OK.

we even took her over to claudios LI one day on the fountain.
she hated it on the way there but on the way back had a great time.

hey jeff..
i have a pair of 3 blade 21's if you want to try one in the spring....i could also let you try one of my revolution 4's in a 23 pitch...also, guilford boat yards has really supported me (and I, them) over the years...i bet we could dig up some trial props there...
i'm trying to track down a photo of my old car to post....i'll keep looking, it should be good for a few laughs.
c

I think the splines are going to be different. Nothing that takes a Tflow 2 hub is ging to fit and they don't make a hub for it.
Its got to be volvo or Tflow 1 with a conversion.
I have a 23 mirage with a Tflow 1 hub and I am going to get it changed over next time I get down to old saybrook.

Thanks for the offer maybe the boat yrad will havesomething in 21 P.
Heres my bird ona really bad day. Trans brake was on the fritZ And We had a nasty head wind. The car usually goes 9.70's at 145
it went 10.00 at 141 on this day.:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=GgyMlT9PSp4

Check out my buddies camaro too it runs 7.99's at 171 we just put T88 turbos(up from 76's) on it and it should go in the low sevens soon.

The first Sutphen I ever wanted was a yellow 20' that was sitting in the racks at Offshore Speed and Ski. I beleive it had a 427 Ford with a Jet drive. That was around 1982?

Ended up buying a Ski-Tique...which was a baby Ski Nautique at 16 feet with a 350 Chevy. For a ski boat is was fast at 51mph.

In 1986 I started boating on the CT river, and have been a huge fan ever since. Used to run from Wethersfield cover in the originally blue, then black 18 Sutphen. Spent a lot of time tied up at that big bar near wethersfield, can't remember the name? Used to watch a band "Sean and Jamie" play, and get loaded!

FYI - My boy is turning two in May, and we're shooting for another one soon...

Laters! D911

hey dave...
my boy turns 2 a mere 6 months later than yours...these little guys are kind of cool,eh?
jeff...
bet our girls would like that beach in branford huh...
you've got to bring the 20 down this summer....

the first sutphen i ever wanted was a kaama 33...which later sunk off LI, drives fell off,poor quality mounting bolts....yikes...
still want one...anyone know the 33 in sterling, ct?

Yeah The branford spot is great I will definately be kicking it down there at some point.

I was down at deans garage today. Motorcars in farmigton.
I guess he is considering selling his 26 RR with ourboards.

Its a nice red and white 26 you probably know the boat.

Hes got a nice shop over there and does some nice jag restorations

I'd more likely make my way down that way on my brothers 32 fountain fever unless I towed down with the 20. too long of a ride in the sound for the 20. If I remember correctly its a long ride.
I haven't been out there by boat since the late 80's

Sutphens
 

Anybody remember the Twin engine 2.4 Outboard sittin' in the showroom of Offshore- Speed & Ski? Jim took me for a 85 mph ride in snotty water. That 20' was bad Azz!

That must have been one bad 20 I can't imagine mine with that kind of power out back.

was that back around 99 up in winsted when they had that little guy,with the purple and pink splashed 33 in the show room, and the blue and yellow 39 in the basement (along with the p-?class campion that sat on 44 until they folded)? my buddy ran the 39 from old saybrook to plum gut running around 70...said it begged, no shrieked, for more power....felt so smooth you could roam around and let the boat run itself..
the 20 there looked pretty sweet...

My brother said that when that place folded they had boats sitting outside with feakin mold growing on them for a year or so. He said they were just rotting out there.

In winstead any one else see this???

Totally remember that boat in Winsted! Just below the lake right on Mainstreet of rt 44...Damn that was awhle ago. My buddy Mark Newbury, a crazy Iraq vet - who recently passed away had a place on the lake, and we partied our brains out there...Sick!

C....here you go.....

Sorry to hear about your buddy.
That sucks.
I run the sutphen up there at highland lake from time to time.
I spend alot of time on that lake with my GP1200 waverunner though.

Its a good time and there are some wild people up there at the right times.

http://miami.craigslist.org/mdc/boa/2414455720.html

Here is a project 30 with a broken bottom. Is this 30ct's old boat?

:( man that is a sad sight!

What a nice freakin boat that was in its day

Its worth about 3K not 11K. And even that would be stretching it.LOL

It was Kevin sistis boat, then Boz Coffin, Then My freind Kiko's and then my brothers boat.

My brother and I had just built new 454 roller motors for it with about 10 hrs on them when the nightmare happend They weren't winterized properly and the condition is unknown to say the least.

Id post a pic but apparently my Paid subscription is up and I am not paying again.lol they should be paying me for making this site so good!LOL

Just goes to show everything goes to chit in so. FL! :lolhit:

BTW, they do owe you for the comic relief around here!!! :party-smiley-004:

Hey !!! e-mail me the pic's and I'll post them up for yah :coolcowboy:

I will if I can find your email.LOL
I thin I can find it. I have some pics of it at the dock in OS when it was still mint

30ctsutphen ... SUTPHEN ...
 

Well here She is ........

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Was this your first or second Sutphen ?

Well I never techinically owned that boat, It was my buddys boat when we were in college and for many eyars after, then my brother bought it with blown upnpower and we re did the boat. I used it alot through the years and was on it any weekend I wasnt drag racing.

It was the first sutphen I had experience with, my personal first to own was my 20 ft that george owns now.

We had alot of good times on that 30 though. Lots of nice girls came along with us.LOL

THat boat was a monster in rough water too, just blew through anything perfectly balanced and while not super fast it was one of the fastest around the CT river in those days. Other than kennys sutphens

I swear that boat was always Jinks'd though. one time we put a new helm in it and the part looked exactly the same went in the same etc. We got in fired up, the boat shoved off and started to drive away, my brother turns the wheel and the boat goes the other way.LOL
It was somehow backwards inside.



We had to drive back to the dock turnung the opposite way.

I got 3000.00 cash for that 30 . I'll come and get it.

I dont own it thats a new owner, call him and make him an offer, I don know what youd do with it, would you fix THAT hull?


I can tell you that boat was UNDER WATER, the engines werent completely pickled and then only 1 was winterized properly and it got VERY VERY cold right after.

Thats why we didnt buy it back from the Ins co.

The person who bought it at auction bought it long distance paid way too much AND had to ship ot to FL.

I dont know what they were thinking personally.

World's cheapest Sutphen. Price has dropped from $150.00 to $40.00.

http://saginaw.craigslist.org/boa/2483938773.html

sutphen 17' with 140 hp engine - $40 (bay city)

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