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floatingphil 04-13-2011 10:15 AM

[QUOTE=krisx125;3375133] I have a 454 with very low hours on it, was thinking of using that and an alpha. It will be a stock base for now with gil exhaust. What will this thing run? mid 60's? [QUOTE]
Base 454 (7.4L) with a Bravo will run just over 70 mph with a worked 25 Mirage.

30ctsutphen 04-13-2011 12:43 PM

I have buddy with a 502 fairly cheap, low hours! Knowing him hes probably got a drive for that thing kicking around too.

blackboat 04-13-2011 01:17 PM

An Alpha is going to be the weak link with a torquey big block in it.
I like a Bravo Drive with a shorty lower unit

A 383 stroker motor with that Alpha might hold up if you babied it a little. or even cooler a Blackhawk drive.

krisx125 04-13-2011 03:40 PM


Originally Posted by 30ctsutphen (Post 3375807)
I have buddy with a 502 fairly cheap, low hours! Knowing him hes probably got a drive for that thing kicking around too.

Thanks but Ive got a few 502's and some bravos...But i really dont want to go bigger than a 454. The 454 i have is all ready to go. We have a 1970's 23ft formula and we ran a alpha and a 454 and squeezed low 60's out of it lol.

krisx125 04-14-2011 08:52 PM

So spent a few hours on it today, remved the gas tank..and cut some more stingers out..While doing this i was a bit concerned about the hull..It seemd water logged..And didnt seem like it had a wood core. Well i drilled a little hole..And found this:
http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot..._7281275_n.jpg

It sucks its wet/rotted...But i guess it better than grinding all the glass from the bulkheads down. When i cut the top layer of glass out it all comes right up! I thought i had more pics of the rotted core. But i dont.

Here's some transom and stringer mess:
This is right after yankin the tank out.
http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot..._5869053_n.jpg

http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot..._3712829_n.jpg

So tomorrow im going to cut EVERYTHING out and start from a bare all glass hull. Do i do what they did and use plywood as core? Or should i balsa core it?

TeamSaris 04-18-2011 04:49 PM

Id use balsa...vaccum bag it if you can. Post this on Scream and Fly that seems to be the place for core discussions. Foam is an option as well...your doing a hell of a job

krisx125 04-19-2011 02:53 PM

Thanks man...I think im in to far to quit now lol. I just REALLY hope its a nice and fun boat when its done.

30ctsutphen 04-19-2011 08:59 PM

Its a sutphen 20 they are fun as hell!

I loved mine , It was a little small for LI sound but for the river it kicked AZZ!

krisx125 04-19-2011 09:21 PM

Ill get some more pictures soon..Its been rainy and lame. The next real question i have is what do i do for a windshield? I cant find the original glass and track. So do i build a fairing like the new ones?

Crash-Box 04-19-2011 09:55 PM


Originally Posted by krisx125 (Post 3381574)
Ill get some more pictures soon..Its been rainy and lame. The next real question i have is what do i do for a windshield? I cant find the original glass and track. So do i build a fairing like the new ones?

No.... You have Dad's 30' dash to pull a plug off of . Then
paint it the same color scheme ... :evilb:


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