We will see I'm sure the thread will get trash so it won't matter I'll just put them on eBay , I very much indeed questioned them in the beginning but with all of the other things I found I have no idea what was causing problems with everything being unstable I have a feeling it was probably the springs more than anything at this point after talking to pac, like I said before some people think the cams were fine so if someone wants them fine if not then everyone knows the risks my threads are all over the place