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btw, kev, when u r disposing bodies in the ocean be sure the camera doesn't catch a glimpse of it.... shhhhh just between me and you




i hope someone has that on there ipod already!!!!!!
Time to send Kelly back to school.....
Specialist nurses paid higher salaries than family doctors
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Parija Kavilanz, senior writer, On Thursday March 11, 2010, 2:32 pm EST
Despite the growing shortage of family doctors in the United States, medical centers last year offered higher salaries and incentives to specialist nurses than to primary care doctors, according to an annual survey of physicians' salaries.
Primary care doctors were offered an average base salary of $173,000 in 2009 compared to an average base salary of $189,000 offered to certified nurse anesthetists, or CRNAs, according to the latest numbers from Merritt Hawkins & Associates, a physician recruiting and consulting firm.
And the firm's projections for 2010 indicate that the average base salary for family physicians will be about $178,000 compared to $186,000 for CRNAs.
CRNAs are advanced practice nurses who administer anesthesia to patients. An important distinction between CRNAs and anesthesiologist is that when anesthesia is administered by a nurse anesthetist, it is still recognized as the practice of nursing rather than a practice of medicine
"It's the fourth year in a row that CRNAs were recruited at a higher pay than a family doctor," said Kurt Mosley, staffing expert with Merritt Hawkins & Associates.
CRNA salaries have trended higher as the number of surgical procedures picked up pace over the past few years, fueling demand for anesthesiologists and anesthetists.
Mosley said medical doctors and specialists, including anesthesiologists, typically have four to five years more of medical training than CRNAs. After spending a lot of time speaking with physicians around the country, he said many family doctors are starting to feel like "second-class citizens."
This type of income disparity "won't make them feel better," he said. Most primary care doctors say they're already struggling to make ends meet as their costs rise faster than what Medicare and private insurers are paying them .
Looking at these compensation trends, the biggest concern for the nation's health care system is how to encourage more medical students to pick primary care as their specialty at a time when the nation is already facing a shortage of about 60,000 primary care doctors.
"The demand for primary care doctors will increase twofold when health reform happens and millions of more Americans have access to health care," said Mosley. "Who is going to triage these patients? It's not the neurologist or pulmonologist. It has to be the primary care doctor."
The American Association of Nurse Anesthetists (AANA) maintains that CRNAs are being fairly compensated.
"From our perspective, we are fairly compensated for the level of responsibility that we shoulder," said Lisa Thiemann, senior director of professional services with the AANA.
"We are at the head of the patient's bed. We deliver anesthesia and we keep the patient safe," said Thiemann, who has been a CRNA for 14 years.
"Once nurses and physicians arrive at anesthesia training, we use the same textbooks and same cases. The training is not too different between the two groups," she said. "We all deliver anesthesia the same way."
Specialist nurses paid higher salaries than family doctors
Buzz up! 1930 Print
Parija Kavilanz, senior writer, On Thursday March 11, 2010, 2:32 pm EST
Despite the growing shortage of family doctors in the United States, medical centers last year offered higher salaries and incentives to specialist nurses than to primary care doctors, according to an annual survey of physicians' salaries.
Primary care doctors were offered an average base salary of $173,000 in 2009 compared to an average base salary of $189,000 offered to certified nurse anesthetists, or CRNAs, according to the latest numbers from Merritt Hawkins & Associates, a physician recruiting and consulting firm.
And the firm's projections for 2010 indicate that the average base salary for family physicians will be about $178,000 compared to $186,000 for CRNAs.
CRNAs are advanced practice nurses who administer anesthesia to patients. An important distinction between CRNAs and anesthesiologist is that when anesthesia is administered by a nurse anesthetist, it is still recognized as the practice of nursing rather than a practice of medicine
"It's the fourth year in a row that CRNAs were recruited at a higher pay than a family doctor," said Kurt Mosley, staffing expert with Merritt Hawkins & Associates.
CRNA salaries have trended higher as the number of surgical procedures picked up pace over the past few years, fueling demand for anesthesiologists and anesthetists.
Mosley said medical doctors and specialists, including anesthesiologists, typically have four to five years more of medical training than CRNAs. After spending a lot of time speaking with physicians around the country, he said many family doctors are starting to feel like "second-class citizens."
This type of income disparity "won't make them feel better," he said. Most primary care doctors say they're already struggling to make ends meet as their costs rise faster than what Medicare and private insurers are paying them .
Looking at these compensation trends, the biggest concern for the nation's health care system is how to encourage more medical students to pick primary care as their specialty at a time when the nation is already facing a shortage of about 60,000 primary care doctors.
"The demand for primary care doctors will increase twofold when health reform happens and millions of more Americans have access to health care," said Mosley. "Who is going to triage these patients? It's not the neurologist or pulmonologist. It has to be the primary care doctor."
The American Association of Nurse Anesthetists (AANA) maintains that CRNAs are being fairly compensated.
"From our perspective, we are fairly compensated for the level of responsibility that we shoulder," said Lisa Thiemann, senior director of professional services with the AANA.
"We are at the head of the patient's bed. We deliver anesthesia and we keep the patient safe," said Thiemann, who has been a CRNA for 14 years.
"Once nurses and physicians arrive at anesthesia training, we use the same textbooks and same cases. The training is not too different between the two groups," she said. "We all deliver anesthesia the same way."
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Time to send Kelly back to school.....
Specialist nurses paid higher salaries than family doctors
Buzz up! 1930 Print
Parija Kavilanz, senior writer, On Thursday March 11, 2010, 2:32 pm EST
Despite the growing shortage of family doctors in the United States, medical centers last year offered higher salaries and incentives to specialist nurses than to primary care doctors, according to an annual survey of physicians' salaries.
Primary care doctors were offered an average base salary of $173,000 in 2009 compared to an average base salary of $189,000 offered to certified nurse anesthetists, or CRNAs, according to the latest numbers from Merritt Hawkins & Associates, a physician recruiting and consulting firm.
And the firm's projections for 2010 indicate that the average base salary for family physicians will be about $178,000 compared to $186,000 for CRNAs.
CRNAs are advanced practice nurses who administer anesthesia to patients. An important distinction between CRNAs and anesthesiologist is that when anesthesia is administered by a nurse anesthetist, it is still recognized as the practice of nursing rather than a practice of medicine
"It's the fourth year in a row that CRNAs were recruited at a higher pay than a family doctor," said Kurt Mosley, staffing expert with Merritt Hawkins & Associates.
CRNA salaries have trended higher as the number of surgical procedures picked up pace over the past few years, fueling demand for anesthesiologists and anesthetists.
Mosley said medical doctors and specialists, including anesthesiologists, typically have four to five years more of medical training than CRNAs. After spending a lot of time speaking with physicians around the country, he said many family doctors are starting to feel like "second-class citizens."
This type of income disparity "won't make them feel better," he said. Most primary care doctors say they're already struggling to make ends meet as their costs rise faster than what Medicare and private insurers are paying them .
Looking at these compensation trends, the biggest concern for the nation's health care system is how to encourage more medical students to pick primary care as their specialty at a time when the nation is already facing a shortage of about 60,000 primary care doctors.
"The demand for primary care doctors will increase twofold when health reform happens and millions of more Americans have access to health care," said Mosley. "Who is going to triage these patients? It's not the neurologist or pulmonologist. It has to be the primary care doctor."
The American Association of Nurse Anesthetists (AANA) maintains that CRNAs are being fairly compensated.
"From our perspective, we are fairly compensated for the level of responsibility that we shoulder," said Lisa Thiemann, senior director of professional services with the AANA.
"We are at the head of the patient's bed. We deliver anesthesia and we keep the patient safe," said Thiemann, who has been a CRNA for 14 years.
"Once nurses and physicians arrive at anesthesia training, we use the same textbooks and same cases. The training is not too different between the two groups," she said. "We all deliver anesthesia the same way."
Specialist nurses paid higher salaries than family doctors
Buzz up! 1930 Print
Parija Kavilanz, senior writer, On Thursday March 11, 2010, 2:32 pm EST
Despite the growing shortage of family doctors in the United States, medical centers last year offered higher salaries and incentives to specialist nurses than to primary care doctors, according to an annual survey of physicians' salaries.
Primary care doctors were offered an average base salary of $173,000 in 2009 compared to an average base salary of $189,000 offered to certified nurse anesthetists, or CRNAs, according to the latest numbers from Merritt Hawkins & Associates, a physician recruiting and consulting firm.
And the firm's projections for 2010 indicate that the average base salary for family physicians will be about $178,000 compared to $186,000 for CRNAs.
CRNAs are advanced practice nurses who administer anesthesia to patients. An important distinction between CRNAs and anesthesiologist is that when anesthesia is administered by a nurse anesthetist, it is still recognized as the practice of nursing rather than a practice of medicine
"It's the fourth year in a row that CRNAs were recruited at a higher pay than a family doctor," said Kurt Mosley, staffing expert with Merritt Hawkins & Associates.
CRNA salaries have trended higher as the number of surgical procedures picked up pace over the past few years, fueling demand for anesthesiologists and anesthetists.
Mosley said medical doctors and specialists, including anesthesiologists, typically have four to five years more of medical training than CRNAs. After spending a lot of time speaking with physicians around the country, he said many family doctors are starting to feel like "second-class citizens."
This type of income disparity "won't make them feel better," he said. Most primary care doctors say they're already struggling to make ends meet as their costs rise faster than what Medicare and private insurers are paying them .
Looking at these compensation trends, the biggest concern for the nation's health care system is how to encourage more medical students to pick primary care as their specialty at a time when the nation is already facing a shortage of about 60,000 primary care doctors.
"The demand for primary care doctors will increase twofold when health reform happens and millions of more Americans have access to health care," said Mosley. "Who is going to triage these patients? It's not the neurologist or pulmonologist. It has to be the primary care doctor."
The American Association of Nurse Anesthetists (AANA) maintains that CRNAs are being fairly compensated.
"From our perspective, we are fairly compensated for the level of responsibility that we shoulder," said Lisa Thiemann, senior director of professional services with the AANA.
"We are at the head of the patient's bed. We deliver anesthesia and we keep the patient safe," said Thiemann, who has been a CRNA for 14 years.
"Once nurses and physicians arrive at anesthesia training, we use the same textbooks and same cases. The training is not too different between the two groups," she said. "We all deliver anesthesia the same way."
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Marcus Lutrell's letter to Walker county district attourney.
email: [email protected]
936-435-2441
See Marcus' letter:
The Honorable David Weeks
District Attorney
Walker County
1036 University Avenue
Huntsville, TX 77340
Dear Sir,
This letter serves to ensure you're aware of how strongly I believe that all four individuals who were involved in killing my lab, DASY, should be prosecuted to the maximum extent of the law and held accountable for their egregious actions.
DASY was given to me as a rehab therapy dog and she provided countless hours of companionship in three years I spent with her. Her name represents something of significant meaning to me. DASY was the living embodiment of my team mates who I fought with and who died on 28 June 2005. As you know, I was the only man of 20 to make it home from Operation Redwing alive. To refresh your memory, this is who DASY was named after:
D - "Danny". SO2 Danny Dietz is survived by his wife Maria Paz Leveque, his mother Cindy, his father Danny Senior, his sister Tiffany, and his brother Eric. He was posthumously awarded the Navy Cross Recipient. He was a phenomenal athlete and an amazing artist. He was a great loss to our community and our world. He leaves behind a legacy that inspires us today and serves as a shining example of heroism and courage for future generations.
A - "Axe". SO2 Matthew Axelson is survived by his wife Cindy, his father Cordell, his mother Donna, and his brother Jeff. He is a posthumous Navy Cross Recipient. Axe was my twin brother's best friend. A very calm guy, Matt kept true to the SEAL motto, "a quiet professional". All the guys looked up to him and sought his insight on most everything. Matt was the last guy recovered on July 10th. Up to that point, his platoon expressed that they were fully expecting a call from him, saying, "hey guys, bring me some more ammunition, I've found a cave and I'm having fun out here".
S - "Southern Boy". That's me – SO1(R) Marcus Luttrell
Y - "Yankee". LT Michael Murphy is survived by his mother Maureen Murphy; his father Dan Murphy; and his brother John Murphy. Murph was a fiery Irishman from New York, my best friend, and a Posthumous Medal of Honor recipient. He was the most selfless guy I've ever met, and he kept himself on a busy agenda to help as many people as he could. He had an incredibly strong sense of character, sound moral and ethical standards, toughness in the face of adversity, and a good sense of humor. He was a family-man, great friend, concerned citizen, warrior, and was admired by those who knew him, and inspiring to those who were close to him.
It is also appalling that not a single one of those individuals or their families have apologized for the pain and suffering they've caused me and my family. I'm an honorable Texan, a Navy SEAL, and a man of my word. Something as simple as "I'm sorry" would have meant something to me.
I emphatically encourage you to bring forth the maximum punishment possible under law to all four individuals. They bring great dishonor and discredit to Huntsville, Walker County, the State of Texas, and the greatest nation in the world - The United States of America.
I have faith and confidence in our nation's justice system - it is part of what makes our country so great. I trust that you'll put forth full effort in doing the right thing and ensuring that this horrific death doesn't go unpunished.
God Bless Texas.
Very Respectfully,
Marcus Luttrell
U.S. Navy SEAL, Retired
NEVER QUIT!
email: [email protected]
936-435-2441
See Marcus' letter:
The Honorable David Weeks
District Attorney
Walker County
1036 University Avenue
Huntsville, TX 77340
Dear Sir,
This letter serves to ensure you're aware of how strongly I believe that all four individuals who were involved in killing my lab, DASY, should be prosecuted to the maximum extent of the law and held accountable for their egregious actions.
DASY was given to me as a rehab therapy dog and she provided countless hours of companionship in three years I spent with her. Her name represents something of significant meaning to me. DASY was the living embodiment of my team mates who I fought with and who died on 28 June 2005. As you know, I was the only man of 20 to make it home from Operation Redwing alive. To refresh your memory, this is who DASY was named after:
D - "Danny". SO2 Danny Dietz is survived by his wife Maria Paz Leveque, his mother Cindy, his father Danny Senior, his sister Tiffany, and his brother Eric. He was posthumously awarded the Navy Cross Recipient. He was a phenomenal athlete and an amazing artist. He was a great loss to our community and our world. He leaves behind a legacy that inspires us today and serves as a shining example of heroism and courage for future generations.
A - "Axe". SO2 Matthew Axelson is survived by his wife Cindy, his father Cordell, his mother Donna, and his brother Jeff. He is a posthumous Navy Cross Recipient. Axe was my twin brother's best friend. A very calm guy, Matt kept true to the SEAL motto, "a quiet professional". All the guys looked up to him and sought his insight on most everything. Matt was the last guy recovered on July 10th. Up to that point, his platoon expressed that they were fully expecting a call from him, saying, "hey guys, bring me some more ammunition, I've found a cave and I'm having fun out here".
S - "Southern Boy". That's me – SO1(R) Marcus Luttrell
Y - "Yankee". LT Michael Murphy is survived by his mother Maureen Murphy; his father Dan Murphy; and his brother John Murphy. Murph was a fiery Irishman from New York, my best friend, and a Posthumous Medal of Honor recipient. He was the most selfless guy I've ever met, and he kept himself on a busy agenda to help as many people as he could. He had an incredibly strong sense of character, sound moral and ethical standards, toughness in the face of adversity, and a good sense of humor. He was a family-man, great friend, concerned citizen, warrior, and was admired by those who knew him, and inspiring to those who were close to him.
It is also appalling that not a single one of those individuals or their families have apologized for the pain and suffering they've caused me and my family. I'm an honorable Texan, a Navy SEAL, and a man of my word. Something as simple as "I'm sorry" would have meant something to me.
I emphatically encourage you to bring forth the maximum punishment possible under law to all four individuals. They bring great dishonor and discredit to Huntsville, Walker County, the State of Texas, and the greatest nation in the world - The United States of America.
I have faith and confidence in our nation's justice system - it is part of what makes our country so great. I trust that you'll put forth full effort in doing the right thing and ensuring that this horrific death doesn't go unpunished.
God Bless Texas.
Very Respectfully,
Marcus Luttrell
U.S. Navy SEAL, Retired
NEVER QUIT!
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