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At the end of the month i'm going to breckenridge colorado for vacation. This time when i go i want to snow mobile which i have never done. The place where i might be renting them at have these models and i want your advice as in how fast are they that's all i care

how fast are these (mph) and what are they concidered

ski doo- 500 and 600 cc

artic kat 500-600 cc

jr mike

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Bigger is better, go with a 600.
Im a skidoo guy so if I had the chioce. If its a Renegade 600SDI id go with that for sure.

You will love it, be sure to share the pics with us when you get back.

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how fast that's all i care about haha :evilb: :evilb: :evilb: :evilb:

:eek: can you do 180's in a snowmobile

jr mike

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ok i was just told by the place where i'm going to rent it at that they give you the ski depending on your skill. i have never driven one or riden one so in other words i don;t know chit. so with my luck i might get stuck with 500cc :mad: so how fast is this one (mph) and how fast is the 600cc (mph). thanks in advance

jr mike

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Not on a 500 -600. My Thundercat gets to about 125 mph or so, but that is a modified 1000cc with about 185 hp, and my twin fuel injected ZR 800 does about 105 - 110. Even though you have never done it before get the biggest you can. You will get used to riding it pretty quickly and if you are on a dog you will wish you got bigger. You might see the mid to upper 90's on a 600 maybe a little more, but the rental sleds are usually pretty tired and high milege. They run fine, just not as good as like new. I rented a 500 a few years ago in Idaho and it would do 65. I was bored to tears at that speed, but it was nice riding.


Have fun, it's addicting!
Todd

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They will both be fast enough to Kill you if you not careful. S#it happens fast on a sled in the trails. If it is yor first time riding the the 500 will plenty enough sled. the newer 500's will run around 90mph and the 600 will run around 100. but in most cases you will not get to use the top speed unless your on a lake or a road, something hard packed. Sledding is a new adrenaline rush. Its probably my favorite drug.

It all depends on how the rental company has the sleds set up. They might only run 70.

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You will have a blast no matter what you are riding. The only time you would have a issue is if you are riding with people that have much faster sleds. I rode with Biggus and some other guys that have ZRT-800's and they would DUST me. Then they would waite for me to catch up at intersections and I was riding on a Indy Trail. It is a BLAST!!!

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thanks yall... anyone know where to rent snowmobile in breckenridge colorado besides a place called "Tiger Run" which is where i called . thanks in advance. i'm a quick learner even though some people think i am, trust me i am if i like something . so i want to go fastttt :evilb: do yall know if rental place put like a restriction on there sleds

jr mike

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I had my Dad's Polaris 600 up to 95, and my Arctic Cat 600 up to 92 (and that was with a shot engine). It's all going to depend on where you're riding (like stated above, lake, etc.), if the sled is studded, how big the motor is, and hopefully they won't be governed.

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Don't need +100 mph on your first time... Trust me, you would be scared to death! :eek: :D 500-600 will have plenty of power for your first experience 70-95 mph's in a Skidoo trail IS FAST!!! Take pics and post them when you're back. HAVE A SAFE TRIP! :drink:

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http://www.summitactivities.com/summ...le_rentals.php

This should help too.

Try not to get too addicted. :D

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thanks yall any of yall have pics

jr mike

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It's a whole different ball game out here. Long track sleds are not designed for speed, just floating in the powder. I do not know the rental company you are talking of, but most rentals here are long-track, ie. 144"-166" sleds.

If you desire to stay ON the trails, a short track will work fine, if you adventure off the trail be prepared to have a miserable day. You WILL be stuck all day. The mtns. around Breckenridge have been getting pounded. This means DEEP powder.

I do not know what the trail systems are like around there. We boondock and stay as far away from the trails as possible. I am sure there are trail systems that will get you acclimated and let you "stretch" your legs. Take it easy for a while. As has been posted they can get you into trouble pretty quick. You will have a blast no matter what you are on.

There are rental shops around here that rent the 1000 SkiDoos, but we are around 160 miles from Breckenridge. I think you will have a good time on the 600s.

Sam

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chit can't wait 2 weeks and half to go :rolleyes: let me see some wicked pics so i can get idea of what i will be doing hahaha

jr mike

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Even a 440 fan you would have a blast on if its a mxz Skidoo or Equiv. Cat or Polaris In a sport Chassis..
Have Fun :D

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The hp per cc of today's sleds are incredible. A new 500cc sled usually has over 100hp. I remember back in the day when the Polaris XLT came out we were blown away! Fastest sled I had ever been on(at the time) and they were about 85 hp, 580 cc and a triple. A new 600 is not even in the same league now.

I have owned a ton of sleds, from a 100 hp 500 twin to a 200 hp 925 twin and I can tell you that I have more fun on the smaller sleds. If and when I get back into it it will be another Polaris XC 600. As long as it's not freshly groomed and flat as a pancake(which is 1% of the time) I wait for all my buddies on their 800s at the stop signs!

Go rent a 500 or 600 and have a blast! :D

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Jr, Your 500 will do 85 mph, but I can garentee you that you will wreck it and put yourself in the hospital if you even think about running around that fast. Even more so than boating, you need experience before you start hammering around on these toys. Be smart, and have fun

Bob

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It doesn't matter which sled you will have a blast.

If they are new sleds then the Skidoos' will be a Rev 500 or 600. Arctic cats will be either a Saber Cat or Firecat 500 or 600 (same sled, but Saber cat is more of a trail suspension as opposed to a stiffer race type suspension). Size for size the Arctic cat will be a bit faster, but nothing that would be too noticable for a person just learning. Any one of them will provide a bunch of fun. The F6 (Firecat 600) will easily excede 100 mph. here are a few winter pics to look at.

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I am more afraid of driving my snowmobile 110mph than my boat 160. I have owned at least 20 snowmobiles and have been riding for 35 years. A new snowmobile is as quick as a hot rod motorcycle zero to 60. Do not be concerned about 500 or 600cc they are both going to be plenty fast. Do not go off trail. You will get stuck. Watch out for the other riders and stay to the right of the trail at all times!!!! Meeting a snowmobile going 40 mph each in a tight corner is scary. Snowmobiles are by far the biggest thrill ride going. I have done a lot of motor sports and these sleds are fun. Mine is 140 hp and under 500 lbs.

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I LOVE the Cross Country Edition ZR's, EvilTwin. That's what I want to buy for next season when I buy a sled. I really like that style of handlebars since I ride standing up 99% of the time. The ZR chassis is great, but I've yet to ride a Firecat. So before I buy again, I'll hopefully be able to drive a Firecat. Here's a pic of my old sled, really wish that I kept it.

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I've got a ZR 800 EFI cross country and I love it! Fast, maneuverable, great throttle response and best of all extremely relibale. I have a 2000 T-cat also and it screams, but at the end of the day on the trails I'm pretty beat up and tired. The ZR 800 CCE is the best of everything!

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stupid question yall but remember i live in MIAMI and i have never been on one of these but how do they compare to a jetski as in how do you accelerate, how do you brake is it like a jet ski that it's by thumb throttle, how do they stop by letting go haha :rolleyes: thanks in advance yall

jr mike

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There was a test a few months back where the compared a stock 700 cc Yamaha viper 120 hp to a Dodge viper in a quater mile drag race. The sled was jetted for the summer, it had a asphalt track and skis. The results of the test were not even close the sled totally spanked the car. With all this said most sports cars only wish the could accelerate as fast as todays larger sleds. To answer your question their is no comparision on a 1000 +cc jetski to the acceleration of a much smaller sled. Yes they have breaks!!!!

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when i said comparision to a jet ski i meant as in how you give them gas. how do you make them move like a motorcycle, like a jetski how?

jr mike

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Like a jet ski, thumb throttle.

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thanks son of a gun and they have brakes awsome

jr mike

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Where are you going riding? Not here in New York I hope!!! :D :D

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I loved it also. Sold it. Had a few things done to it. Never broke one thing on it and never had a one issue with it. I had ALOT of miles on it. I was puting over 1500 miles on it a week in Canada. I loved that sled.

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I always have a full house on the weekends during snowmobile season.

We do get alot of snow here at the lake.

And those REV's are for the ladies!! :D

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500-80-85 600-90-100

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lol breckenridge colorado

jr mike

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Too many Cats and SkiDoos here. This is better:D

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You can't say that because you sold it...which you shouldn't have done... :D But you're right, way too many Ski Doo's around here, they're a dime a dozen, and I find the REV's extremely ugly, I don't care how they ride.

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That's good to hear, hopefully I'll be able to find somethin like that when I'm looking. My friend was just looking at one with 5,000 miles on it and was a 2002...it was being sold real cheap, but it looked like it had been ridden hard and put away wet. You can't beat a Cat though :cool:

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Man I miss sledding. I used to race a very hopped up Phazer back in the 80's. The HP seems real sick now!!!

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Obviously you have never ridden one. You Polaris and Cat guys most be pretty used to looking at their mud flaps now.

J K

Here is mine

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Yeah you're right, I haven't ridden one...I wouldn't want to put myself through that. :D :D

Actually I hear they ride nicely, but I wouldn't own a Ski-Doo just for the simple fact that they're a dime a dozen around here, I'd rather own a sled that you don't see very often (in this case, a ZR CCE). I've ridden all 4 brands, and am just peticular to Cat's, even after owning one that had a blown motor which gave me nothing but troubles.

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JUST BECAUSE IT HAS BRAKES DOEN`T MEAN ITS GOING TO STOP I HAVE THE TWO ARCTIC CATS ONE IS A 2006 CROSSFIRE THE OTHER IS A 2004 F-7 EFI NOW LET ME TELL YOU WHY I HAVE TWO. LAST YEAR IN THE U.P. OF MICHIGAN I WENT INTO AN ICY CORNER WAY TO HOT AND BLEW IT WRECKED THE F-7 AND SHATTERED MY ARM. I AM WHAT I WOULD CONSIDER A SKILLED RIDER BUT ON THE TRAILS THINGS HAPPEN VERY FAST AND THERE IS NO ROOM FOR ERROR. TRY THE 500 THE FIRST DAY, THEN MOVE UP AFTER THAT. ANYWAY IF YOUR IN A FEDERAL PARK WHEN YOUR OUT WEST THEY HAVE SPEED LIMITS. IF THE 500`S ARE SABERCATS WHICH ASSUME THEY ARE YOU SHOULD SEE 80 DEPENDING ON TRAIL CONDITIONS AND THAT IS PLENTY FAST FOR A FIRST TIME RIDER.

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Here is mine after its make over.. last feburary I smacked a tree doing over 60 mph..

Like these guys say.. **** happens fast on the trail.

But I don't worry too much., cause most of you old guys are behind me.... :p :p :p :p :p

anyone around here ride upper michigan?

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i try to get up there every other weekend this time of year. this year i am the "old" guy at the back of the pack