SRW towing? Not for me!! *
12-19-2011 | 01:27 PM
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offshorexcursion, in another thread you stated that you regularly tow 20,000#. How do you tow 20,000# with a truck that Dodge rated for 11,500# maximum towing capacity and GCWR of 19,000# and be legal? If that is in fact legal, why are guys on this forum and the RV forums so concerned with staying within the manufacturers ratings of their trucks?
12-19-2011 | 01:31 PM
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Well yeah it sounds harsh but has some truth.
The pics in this thread prove the driver had no concern for safety or condition of his equipment. Drw or medium duty would not matter. Driver and condition of equipment are more important then Drw.
Plus we have already proved that towing with a Drw loaded to light is worse then a srw.
The pics in this thread prove the driver had no concern for safety or condition of his equipment. Drw or medium duty would not matter. Driver and condition of equipment are more important then Drw.
Plus we have already proved that towing with a Drw loaded to light is worse then a srw.
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12-19-2011 | 01:33 PM
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MPG. Insurance premiums maybe. Buddys 09 F450 got 9-10mpg stock my 08 F250 got 13. Getting 3mpg more over 100,000 miles will only save you $10 grand. keep it 200k and it only saves you 20 grand. You start talking a business with 5-10 trucks and thats a big savings. Im talking pure stock and his was a manual to boot. So I dont want to hear WITH MY TUNER AND DPF DELETE I CAN GET THIS.
I am talking apples to apples. An F350 Dually versus an F350 SRW where all other variables are the same. I can't imagine the MPG is THAT different.
12-19-2011 | 01:38 PM
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You're not comparing apples to apples in trucks when you're comparing an F-450 to an F-250. There is a LOT more mass to the F450 and I believe the rear end gearing is quite different.
I am talking apples to apples. An F350 Dually versus an F350 SRW where all other variables are the same. I can't imagine the MPG is THAT different.
I am talking apples to apples. An F350 Dually versus an F350 SRW where all other variables are the same. I can't imagine the MPG is THAT different.
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12-19-2011 | 01:53 PM
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2006 F350 6.0 King Ranch DRW 4.11 would get high 11/low 12MPG unloaded.
I'm guessing the gearing had much more to do with the MPG drop than the number of wheels.
Obviously the SRW is not as stable of a platform as the DRW. The SRW was much higher off the ground than the DRW which made driving in higher winds a PITA.
It is really all about picking the right tool for the job and I wouldn't have towed any thing with the DRW that I wouldn't have with the SRW. DRW is more truck but not that much more IMHO...
Edit: talking F350's, not F450+ where they don't come stock as SRW.. Never drove a super single so can't comment on those, either way f450+ are in a whole league of their own anyway.
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12-19-2011 | 02:46 PM
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12-19-2011 | 05:55 PM
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offshorexcursion, in another thread you stated that you regularly tow 20,000#. How do you tow 20,000# with a truck that Dodge rated for 11,500# maximum towing capacity and GCWR of 19,000# and be legal? If that is in fact legal, why are guys on this forum and the RV forums so concerned with staying within the manufacturers ratings of their trucks?
If you were a DOT officer would you waste your time writing a ticket for a guy hauling a boat that weighs more then the manufacture says or pull over a 18wheeler that is almost a guarantee there are multiple citations! More to go wrong more to inspect, Easier to hit quota. (how would the cop look that up anyways? run the vin? open up the rear end and count teeth on the gears?)
Semi trucks are not rated by how much trailer weight they can haul. People who haul the standard 80,000lbs use the same truck to haul a overweight, overwidth, and overheight load of lets say 130,000lbs.
12-19-2011 | 06:02 PM
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Ask any semi driver how dangerous bobtailing can be?
Less contact pressure per square inch, most boats do not have enough tongue weight to make a dually tow safer.
Less fuel milage, wider, less aerodynamic, more rolling resistance.
Harder to maintain and check inside dual tire pressure, which is unsafe if not maintained.
More expensive tires
Harder to rotate
More expensive up front price
HORRIBLE in the snow, can also drive worse in the rain. Even in 4WD. The rear tires fight the front. Also the outside duals have to cut their own path which result in the inside duals losing pressure and the rear fishtailing.
The main positive is when hauling weight IN THE BED over the axle. Slide in truck camper, hauling a pallet of block, etc.
12-19-2011 | 06:03 PM
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Why the reference to Dually trailers all the time? losing a tire on a tri-axle or even tandem axle really cant compare to losing a tire on the rear of a srw truck. When you lose a tire on the boat trailer, you have one or two other axles directly behind or in front of it, which will help keep the trailer straight. Granted they do tear some stuff up when they blow. Im with ya on the steer tire blowing. Thats not fun no matter what you're driving! I have had many rear drive tires blow on my semi over the years. The noise will scare the crap outta ya, but never has it even remotely affected the handling even when hauling a 65k lb trailer. Pulling off to the side of the road or the next exit isnt a problem.
My buddy has a 5th wheel tandem axle dually trailer under his 46 Black Thunder. I must say, it is pretty awesome. He tows it with his semi, and the manueverabilty with the tandem/5th wheel combo is awesome. I'd take that over my triaxle bumper pull trailer anyday. I would then pull the boat with my semi.
This happend to me last summer. Im anal about greasing/replacing bearings, adjusting brakes, making sure lights all work, tire psi up to snuff, then wham. Friggin axle snaps. Didnt feel it, just happend to look in my pass mirror, and saw smoke billowing out from the fender. Chained it up, and got it home. Called Dexter axle, trailer is a 1989, and they sent me a new one for free since it broke where the weld is that attaches the spindle to the tube. Nice!
My buddy has a 5th wheel tandem axle dually trailer under his 46 Black Thunder. I must say, it is pretty awesome. He tows it with his semi, and the manueverabilty with the tandem/5th wheel combo is awesome. I'd take that over my triaxle bumper pull trailer anyday. I would then pull the boat with my semi.
This happend to me last summer. Im anal about greasing/replacing bearings, adjusting brakes, making sure lights all work, tire psi up to snuff, then wham. Friggin axle snaps. Didnt feel it, just happend to look in my pass mirror, and saw smoke billowing out from the fender. Chained it up, and got it home. Called Dexter axle, trailer is a 1989, and they sent me a new one for free since it broke where the weld is that attaches the spindle to the tube. Nice!
12-19-2011 | 06:12 PM
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