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Old 08-17-2012 | 11:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Quicksilver
Personally I wish Ford would import versions of their FPV line from Austrailia, they have some brutal kick ass sedans that make the Taurus Sho look like an epic fail. Or f' it, they need to stick the Ecoboost 6 into the Fusion with a manual trans, that would sell like hot cakes and would have been a real "Sho" not the bloated whale the Taurus is now.
What pisses me off is most the nice Holden and Ford vehicles down under are rear wheel drive with available manual trannies while here we get all the wrong wheel drive crap with slushboxes..
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Old 08-18-2012 | 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by HTRDLNCN
What pisses me off is most the nice Holden and Ford vehicles down under are rear wheel drive with available manual trannies while here we get all the wrong wheel drive crap with slushboxes..
I've never understood how Aussieland got so many badass sedans and cars, and the same companies here offered sh!t, wtf??!?! That'd be like Lambo or Ferrari making awesome cars for the U.S. and bloated boring crap elsewhere including in Italy. And Aussie cars had way way nicer interiors before the big 3 got their act together here, again that makes no sense.

New Fusion looks so good, stick the Eco boost 6 in it, manual trans, awd (since it's fwd) etc and make a great sports sedan from the big 3. But no, they'd rather have their auto only fat pig whale 4400lb Taurus "Sho", not even worthy of the Sho name. You can get the same exact car from Lincoln.

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Old 08-18-2012 | 02:28 PM
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PhotoShopped I think- the back doors don't line up right. If not it was a styling exercise- of the new Impala.

The date in the photo says 3/7/2009 I think. Where did the photo come from?
I think that might be the new rear wheel drive Impala...look...6 tail lights!!
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Old 08-19-2012 | 07:54 PM
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The Chevy Cruze is basically a Volt without the dead-weight and flammable 400-lb. electric battery. Which makes it $17,000, rather than the Volt’s $41,000 , Each Volt sold makes GM no money ; but it costs We the Taxpayers a $7,500 bribe Oop's I mean “incentive ,” Oh whatever and The resident Obama wants to jack this Eerr bribe to $10,000 per Dolt , Now with GM’s new 60-day return policy, it looks like you can buy a Dolt and cash the $7,500 bribe check. Then return that thing and just keep the $7,500 bribe cash , Wow How’s that for Taxpayer coin stewardship ?

I failed to mention at least five Volt fires , This fire problem remains unsolved. Is it the battery? Is it the charging station? Is it the charging cable? All of the above?The Laughable thing here is all this car does that is different , is that it stores the equivalent of a gallon of gas, in the form of electricity !!
What is this crap? 5 fires my ass, prove that! There is absolutely no fire problem. I work at GM as I've mentioned around here, and you are very misinformed by people who have a political problem with the car, and don't know the first thing about cars. 2 wrecked ones (in crash testing by the gov't) that were not properly discharged after being totaled started on fire 2 weeks after the wreck. What happens when you crash a traditional car and let gas leak everywhere? How many gas car fires are there every year, cuz they NEVER burn huh?

Yes, the most technologically advanced car on the road costs more than a mass produced compact, big surprise. A lambo costs more than a Nissan Versa, is the buyer of that dumb?
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Old 08-19-2012 | 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by rlj676
What is this crap? 5 fires my ass, prove that! There is absolutely no fire problem. I work at GM as I've mentioned around here, and you are very misinformed by people who have a political problem with the car, and don't know the first thing about cars. 2 wrecked ones (in crash testing by the gov't) that were not properly discharged after being totaled started on fire 2 weeks after the wreck. What happens when you crash a traditional car and let gas leak everywhere? How many gas car fires are there every year, cuz they NEVER burn huh?

Yes, the most technologically advanced car on the road costs more than a mass produced compact, big surprise. A lambo costs more than a Nissan Versa, is the buyer of that dumb?
LOL Taxpayer Bailout Money and the 700 Million they threw at that framacation !

http://hotair.com/archives/2011/12/0...omment-page-1/


LOL at least it did not catch on fire :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_h5AO...ature=youtu.be



That $20,000.00 , 400 pound ,One gallon fuel tank caused this ;








NO Problem you and Family sleep good with that thing in your Garage , as Government motors is right on it !!! I would like to see the internal E-Mails on this






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Old 08-19-2012 | 09:16 PM
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There have been many Fords that have caught on fire, with no government assistance. Without government assistance, Ford would have sold practically no hybrids thus far.

Just for some balance

For the record, I think the Volt is just way too far ahead of the infrastructure required for it. The price is obviously a high point for mass acceptance.
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Old 08-20-2012 | 06:17 AM
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I can say this about the 3.6 V6, bought a 05 STS 3 years ago, cannot believe the performance, plus 28mpg on the highway ! unreal for such a large car with all the amenities..
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Originally Posted by Steve 1
LOL Taxpayer Bailout Money and the 700 Million they threw at that framacation !

http://hotair.com/archives/2011/12/0...omment-page-1/


LOL at least it did not catch on fire :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_h5AO...ature=youtu.be



That $20,000.00 , 400 pound ,One gallon fuel tank caused this ;








NO Problem you and Family sleep good with that thing in your Garage , as Government motors is right on it !!! I would like to see the internal E-Mails on this






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I say this respectfully, but you are so god damn blinded by your hate of the left that you can't differentiate reality from what some right wing blow hard may have said. Your points are not about the car, we ALL know how you feel about Obama and that somehow feel GM is his, despite Bush starting the bailout. Did you even read what you linked?

Here, let me put the salient points straight from your article backing up "5 fires" or that it's a hazard somehow:
"The first incident of a battery fire in tests came in June, three weeks after a crash test — and sparked three nearby fires as well. A second test in November produced another fire, at which point the results were made public."

That is 2 fires, neither to the public, and both LONG after a crash test! The "nearby fires" were not Volts just blowing up, they were other things near the 1 fire.

Exactly as I said, weeks after a CRASH test 2 cars had a fire. Their batteries were not discharged as they should have been. Just like leaving a leaking gas tank around would cause a problem.

The next "helpful" link is to a very old clip of a prototype Volt, nothing to do with production. A car meant to be on display at a carshow doesn't fly up a hill? Yeah, you showed us what a pile a production Volt (with the highest customer satisfaction in the industry) is.

Please either stick to boat design, or at least ranting on politics, but your attempts to talk cars, which is nothing more than politics to you just isn't working.
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Old 08-20-2012 | 07:15 PM
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He trashed Romney for many months, so he has to rant on someone.
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