Burb vs. excursion, Gas, 4x4, buy which one?
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Keep in mind the Ex is on a super duty chassis, and has more room than any GM product, hands down. Also the Ford product will have less issues with little things like window regs, dashes, electronics, etc. However, the gas engines are terrible! And the V10 is known for blowing spark plugs out of the heads.
The GM trucks will win the gas powerpant race, however they do not offer a diesel powerplant in an SUV. If you are staying gas I would pick the GM. If this discussion was for a diesel vs Gm gas it would be the Ford hands down
Driveline. popularity, resale = GM
Chassis, quality = Ford
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For $10K you`re gonna get a piece of junk, I payed double that for my 02 7.3l with 100K miles and that was the best deal around.
People are hanging on to the Diesel Ex. I dont ever plan on getting rid of mine...
That being said the two solid axles suck as far as ride quality, I`d go with the burb if its between gassers.
Running vegetable oil isn`t as easy as it sounds unless you got some time on your hands
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Given you have 2 other GM's, I would stay GM from a parts and familarity standpoint. I dont think tow rating is significantly different and do fear the Ford v10 spark plug issues.
My suggestion would be to look at a GM 2500 or 3500 TRUCK instead of another suburban.
It is not going to be regularly used and will give extra cargo flexibility with an open bed that another suburban can not offer.
Plus when you find that smok'n deal on a 5th wheel camper, drop in a hitch and you have a new lake mansion
I had a suburban and changed to a CC w/ cab high topper, so much better!
For an infrequent use, I would stick with gas. Love the Duramax power but it comes at a price and extra maintance headaches.
My suggestion would be to look at a GM 2500 or 3500 TRUCK instead of another suburban.
It is not going to be regularly used and will give extra cargo flexibility with an open bed that another suburban can not offer.
Plus when you find that smok'n deal on a 5th wheel camper, drop in a hitch and you have a new lake mansion
I had a suburban and changed to a CC w/ cab high topper, so much better!
For an infrequent use, I would stick with gas. Love the Duramax power but it comes at a price and extra maintance headaches.
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Befu- Get the Burb. The Ford V10 is a PIG IMHO. These engines have issues with exhaust manifolds cracking and bolts breaking. The GM 8.1 is a great engine and a Hypertech tuner gives it more oomph and about 0.5 mpg better.
If you can find a Diesel Excursion I would consider it... but they are rare.
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If you can find a Diesel Excursion I would consider it... but they are rare.
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Dumped Ford years ago, way before the economy tanked. Were losing tons of money every month due to warranty issues with Ford and at least 1 truck a month with a blown up engine/trans. Not my dealership, my brother-in-laws. Chevy, Nissan, BMW. He has horror stories about the Fords. The 7.3 Diesel is another story tho. They should've stuck with that as it was bullet proof.
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Putting an offer in on the burb.
No pickups, need a backup vehicle for the other 3/4 ton 8.1L burb we have and with a minimum of 5 kids, no picup will work. (Foster parents also, have 9 kids total right now) No 5th wheel in my future.
Added a 4th row seat to our other two suburbans, so they seat 11 and 12 each. yeah, we get some looks unloading.
Would love a diesel excursion, but can't touch one within $10k of the 8.1L burb.
Thanks all, new I could count on real world answers here.
Brian
No pickups, need a backup vehicle for the other 3/4 ton 8.1L burb we have and with a minimum of 5 kids, no picup will work. (Foster parents also, have 9 kids total right now) No 5th wheel in my future.
Added a 4th row seat to our other two suburbans, so they seat 11 and 12 each. yeah, we get some looks unloading.
Would love a diesel excursion, but can't touch one within $10k of the 8.1L burb.
Thanks all, new I could count on real world answers here.
Brian
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Just bought the Burb with 62,200 miles for $14,800.
So now I own two 2004 2500 Suburbans with the 8.1L engine. both white, 9 passenger seating, grey cloth interior, damn near twins except my current one has about 134k miles on it. basic trucks that are comfortable and pull great. NO ONE makes a good 9 passenger 4 wd diesel tow vehicle. Sure you can do custom, but you can't find one for what I have in both of these trucks now.
Well, everyone says twins is better! Now I have twin tow vehicles to pull my twin SBC powered boat!
Thanks all, Brian
So now I own two 2004 2500 Suburbans with the 8.1L engine. both white, 9 passenger seating, grey cloth interior, damn near twins except my current one has about 134k miles on it. basic trucks that are comfortable and pull great. NO ONE makes a good 9 passenger 4 wd diesel tow vehicle. Sure you can do custom, but you can't find one for what I have in both of these trucks now.
Well, everyone says twins is better! Now I have twin tow vehicles to pull my twin SBC powered boat!
Thanks all, Brian
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First of all, it's awesome that you take on the responsibility of foster parents to help out the kids. We have three kids and I think it's stressful at times traveling with four if one brings a friend. I couldn't imagine what it's like to travel with up to 9 kids. We also have a Suburban and they are great for traveling. Our's has second row buckets which we love because the kids can get to the second row without flipping up the second row. Good luck with the new Burb.
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Dumped Ford years ago, way before the economy tanked. Were losing tons of money every month due to warranty issues with Ford and at least 1 truck a month with a blown up engine/trans. Not my dealership, my brother-in-laws. Chevy, Nissan, BMW. He has horror stories about the Fords. The 7.3 Diesel is another story tho. They should've stuck with that as it was bullet proof.
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Just bought the Burb with 62,200 miles for $14,800.
So now I own two 2004 2500 Suburbans with the 8.1L engine. both white, 9 passenger seating, grey cloth interior, damn near twins except my current one has about 134k miles on it. basic trucks that are comfortable and pull great. NO ONE makes a good 9 passenger 4 wd diesel tow vehicle. Sure you can do custom, but you can't find one for what I have in both of these trucks now.
Well, everyone says twins is better! Now I have twin tow vehicles to pull my twin SBC powered boat!
Thanks all, Brian
So now I own two 2004 2500 Suburbans with the 8.1L engine. both white, 9 passenger seating, grey cloth interior, damn near twins except my current one has about 134k miles on it. basic trucks that are comfortable and pull great. NO ONE makes a good 9 passenger 4 wd diesel tow vehicle. Sure you can do custom, but you can't find one for what I have in both of these trucks now.
Well, everyone says twins is better! Now I have twin tow vehicles to pull my twin SBC powered boat!
Thanks all, Brian
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