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Sunny32SSR 05-13-2014 05:21 PM
Mine won't work unless I prime the system by removing the breakaway switch. It's weird. I know it says to test the breakaway but even having it hooked up to the truck the manual controller doesn't work until I prime it. Brakerite 2...

payuppsucker 05-13-2014 06:08 PM
Originally Posted by Danno302 (Post 4121522)
Nice! Mine will remain a drums system. Are you quoting just an actuator or a kit? What brand unit are you quoting? Thanks for the reply!
That's for a Dexter unit which in my opinion is the best available. I'll post prices on the Carlisle and Dexter both disc and drum later or in the morning.

payuppsucker 05-13-2014 06:14 PM
Originally Posted by CrownLPX (Post 4121570)
Mine won't work unless I prime the system by removing the breakaway switch. It's weird. I know it says to test the breakaway but even having it hooked up to the truck the manual controller doesn't work until I prime it. Brakerite 2...
Try bleeding you system again and make sure you have a ground wire DIRECT FROM THE UNIT TO THE NEGATIVE BATTERY TERMINAL. This is very important. We haul trailers on a 40 gooseneck and there was a long lag in the trailer brake unit building enough pressure to be effective until I installed the ground wire. Prior to that I had the unit grounded to the trailer frame but that wasn't sufficient. I'll check to make sure your controller is compatible with your brake unit. Not all are compatible. Which one do you have?

payuppsucker 05-13-2014 06:25 PM
Originally Posted by Danno302 (Post 4121532)
I've read every post on this subject on OSO,,,so much great information! I trust what I've read, just can't figure out how a proportional controller can sense any DECELERATION on a vehicle that is backing down a ramp !!?? Maybe the sensing device works in both directions as long as the brakes are applied. I've asked the question at Tekonsha...will share the answer for any other anal idiots that might want to know :confused:
The prodigy 3 has a settings option specifically for hydraulic brakes. It will cause the unit to apply pressure to the brakes sitting still, no inertia needed.

payuppsucker 05-13-2014 06:29 PM
Originally Posted by Danno302 (Post 4121520)
I am going to install myself, so no estimates...but...it looks like for me (your needs may vary): ...actuator ($550-700), in-cab controller ($125-350), breakaway battery setup ($75-100), plus any installation hardware-wiring, brackets,welding, etc. So it looks to be at or just under $1K doing it yourself...add $$$ to have it done in shop. payuppsucker seems to have the goods and helpful info!
When you decide what components you want let me know and I'll get pricing for you. You'll be well under $1000. For example, my break away kits cost me less than $30.

Sunny32SSR 05-13-2014 06:45 PM
Originally Posted by payuppsucker (Post 4121596)
Try bleeding you system again and make sure you have a ground wire DIRECT FROM THE UNIT TO THE NEGATIVE BATTERY TERMINAL. This is very important. We haul trailers on a 40 gooseneck and there was a long lag in the trailer brake unit building enough pressure to be effective until I installed the ground wire. Prior to that I had the unit grounded to the trailer frame but that wasn't sufficient. I'll check to make sure your controller is compatible with your brake unit. Not all are compatible. Which one do you have?
The unit itself does not turn on unless I follow those steps. Factory ford controller and brakerite 2

Danno302 05-13-2014 07:32 PM
Originally Posted by CrownLPX (Post 4121609)
The unit itself does not turn on unless I follow those steps. Factory ford controller and brakerite 2
That's definitely not right! I think you might need the Ford SD adapter here: http://www.etrailer.com/p-T4845900.html
payuppsucker will confirm I'm sure.

Danno302 05-13-2014 07:38 PM
Originally Posted by payuppsucker (Post 4121601)
The prodigy 3 has a settings option specifically for hydraulic brakes. It will cause the unit to apply pressure to the brakes sitting still, no inertia needed.
Now that's what I need to know! I can't find that information anywhere in their descriptions. I've had several members say they have trailer brakes backing down a ramp with both Prodigy 2 and 3. Also just found this from Tekonsha sight..."Great for backing into tough spots! Works proportionally in reverse with the ability to disable when not needed" so the internal sensor must detect inertia both ways!

Danno302 05-13-2014 07:48 PM
Originally Posted by payuppsucker (Post 4121604)
When you decide what components you want let me know and I'll get pricing for you. You'll be well under $1000. For example, my break away kits cost me less than $30.
Excellent! I just want a quality compatible actuator, adequate breakaway kit, and either P2 or P3 controller with Tekonsha's 2004 Chevy Avalanche 2500 harness adapter. I think I can do it from there. Just looking for best pricing I can get!
Thanks!
Dan
Trailer= 1997 Eagle Tri-axle , drums on all 3 axles (3500lb)
Tow Vehicle= 2004 Avalanche 2500

Sunny32SSR 05-13-2014 09:02 PM
It's not a matter of fluid or ground. It doesn't work unless I pull the breakaway and allow it to prime. The in can detects it the moment it is plugged it. The motor doesn't turn on unless I pull tr pin


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