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Danno302 05-14-2014 11:16 AM

I'm screwed! Just found out I have free-backing drum brakes...so they won't work in reverse anyway!!!! I can't see buying new drum backing plate/shoe kits...looks like I'll be converting to EOH disc after all! Good for the trailer and my safety...bad for the wallet!

CrownHawg 05-14-2014 12:51 PM

I'll be very interested in seeing how your project goes. I currently have a 32ft Zieman trailer under my Advantage with surge brakes on two axles. When I bought the boat (used), I found out the current surge disc system was not working at all! (nearly sh$$ myself going 80 on the freeway!) Anyway, I replaced a brake line on the rear axle that was broken, but I still don't have "great" brakes. The way the actuator is mounted, I can't figure out how I would secure it(keep it from moving). I guess that would just take welding the whole unit up. I have a controller already in my truck, since I have a dual axle equipment trailer with electric brakes, I'm hoping when I decide to take the plunge to EOH, it will work with the new system. Pappysucker, where in TN are you? I would be interested in paying someone who knows what they are doing but don't want to drive halfway cross the country. I have found no one here in central AR that does this kind of work.

97FASTech 05-14-2014 12:58 PM

CrownHawg, If you have the prodigy 3 controller, it has settings for both EoH brakes and Electric. It stores up to 5 settings in memory. Great controller.

CrownHawg 05-14-2014 01:19 PM

Not sure what kind of controller I have, I bought it at TSC to control my equipment trailer. I will check this afternoon though. Thanks!

Danno302 05-14-2014 02:07 PM

I'll keep this thread open as I go. I'm not afraid to tackle this but was just hoping to get by with an EOH actuator kit and keep the drums. But a main concern is to have brakes while backing down ramp, so my existing free-brake drum setups won't work. I could just replace all the drum shoes for less $$, but it's one of those "might as well do it right" situations. I'll be doing this with the boat on the trailer so it will be a little dicey. I found a tandem Kodiak kit with EOH actuator at Etrailer...would still need another axle kit and a P3 controller...$$$$$$$$ :(

payuppsucker 05-14-2014 04:29 PM


Originally Posted by Danno302 (Post 4121636)
Excellent! I just want a quality compatible actuator, adequate breakaway kit, and either P2 or P3 controller with Tekonsha's 2004 Chevy Avalanche 2500 harness adapter. I think I can do it from there. Just looking for best pricing I can get!
Thanks!
Dan
Trailer= 1997 Eagle Tri-axle , drums on all 3 axles (3500lb)
Tow Vehicle= 2004 Avalanche 2500

K71-650 Hyd Brake Actuator - $525, Prodigy P3 Controller - $148, Brake Away Kit - $30, plus shipping on all items.

payuppsucker 05-14-2014 04:36 PM


Originally Posted by Danno302 (Post 4121901)
I'm screwed! Just found out I have free-backing drum brakes...so they won't work in reverse anyway!!!! I can't see buying new drum backing plate/shoe kits...looks like I'll be converting to EOH disc after all! Good for the trailer and my safety...bad for the wallet!

I can get you a conversion kit to do that. Since you're going to discs I'd only put brakes on two axles but you'll have to make that call. Do you have 5,6, or 8 lug axles? BTW, the disc brakes require a 1600 psi actuator vs 1000 psi for the drums. There's no difference in the price.

payuppsucker 05-14-2014 04:43 PM


Originally Posted by CrownHawg (Post 4121959)
I'll be very interested in seeing how your project goes. I currently have a 32ft Zieman trailer under my Advantage with surge brakes on two axles. When I bought the boat (used), I found out the current surge disc system was not working at all! (nearly sh$$ myself going 80 on the freeway!) Anyway, I replaced a brake line on the rear axle that was broken, but I still don't have "great" brakes. The way the actuator is mounted, I can't figure out how I would secure it(keep it from moving). I guess that would just take welding the whole unit up. I have a controller already in my truck, since I have a dual axle equipment trailer with electric brakes, I'm hoping when I decide to take the plunge to EOH, it will work with the new system. Pappysucker, where in TN are you? I would be interested in paying someone who knows what they are doing but don't want to drive halfway cross the country. I have found no one here in central AR that does this kind of work.

I'm in Friendship, TN. About 250 miles from you.

payuppsucker 05-14-2014 04:49 PM


Originally Posted by CrownLPX (Post 4121609)
The unit itself does not turn on unless I follow those steps. Factory ford controller and brakerite 2

The adapter that Dan posted the link to should square you away.

Danno302 05-15-2014 08:14 AM


Originally Posted by payuppsucker (Post 4122093)
I can get you a conversion kit to do that. Since you're going to discs I'd only put brakes on two axles but you'll have to make that call. Do you have 5,6, or 8 lug axles? BTW, the disc brakes require a 1600 psi actuator vs 1000 psi for the drums. There's no difference in the price.

Oh I will be doing 3 axles! Brakes are one thing I would rather overkill than under equip. My whole point is to flat out NOT have to ever worry about braking again! Probably have to do something like this...http://www.etrailer.com/Trailer-Brak.../T4843800.html... or this..http://www.etrailer.com/p-T4843700.html ...and add another axle set and a P2 or P3 controller. whew! if you say it real fast its really not that expensive considering the improvement.


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