Gas tow rig....possible? NEED DIESEL.
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Just put about 1200 miles on and my biggest complaint is finding gas stations that you can get in and out of with a 38 ft boat. Even some of the truck stops don't have gas side set up for it. So what's the secret to finding stations you can get a 45 foot trailer through? That would be the biggest reason I'd look into a diesel in the future.
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Just put about 1200 miles on and my biggest complaint is finding gas stations that you can get in and out of with a 38 ft boat. Even some of the truck stops don't have gas side set up for it. So what's the secret to finding stations you can get a 45 foot trailer through? That would be the biggest reason I'd look into a diesel in the future.
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You were at LOTO???? Wish I would have known. We were down Thurs-Mon.
I tow with a Chevy 2500HD CC 8100/Allison. I've always had gas trucks and never a problem. Its my daily driver as well.
I tow with a Chevy 2500HD CC 8100/Allison. I've always had gas trucks and never a problem. Its my daily driver as well.
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Even if gas was 3.15 (it's not in ohio, its about 3.30) and diesel was 3.85 (it's about 3.69 when I bought at the lake last weekend, that's still only 20% increase. I'm getting at least 13.5 mpg when I haul the 357 at 20k lbs combined. It would be a %70 increase in my towing fuel to switch to a gas truck getting 8 mpg, that's not insignificant, and it more than evaporates the difference in the fuel prices. There have been a couple times locally where diesel and regular have been the same price
That being said, I also shopped hard for my truck, it's a 2002 24v cummins with a 5 speed, 128k miles, flawless leather interior and darn nice exterior all for around 10 grand. There is not a single gas truck on the planet that could make me want to switch right now. That being said, Anyone who doesn't think a big block truck is capable of pulling a heavy trailer is on crack. If I was feeling patient I have no doubt I could get around with a small block truck just like my boat's previous owner.
That being said, I also shopped hard for my truck, it's a 2002 24v cummins with a 5 speed, 128k miles, flawless leather interior and darn nice exterior all for around 10 grand. There is not a single gas truck on the planet that could make me want to switch right now. That being said, Anyone who doesn't think a big block truck is capable of pulling a heavy trailer is on crack. If I was feeling patient I have no doubt I could get around with a small block truck just like my boat's previous owner.
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Best tow rig I ever had was my 97 k3500 with a built 454. Som ***** would pass diesels up hill in 5th gear, but I averaged 4-6 mpg towing. It's bad when my wife's bladder can outlast a 38 gallon fuel tank.
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Towing this:

Gas:
Loses speed on any slight incline, always downshifting and revving to 3000rpm plus, doesn`t wanna shift back to overdrive unless I let off, horrible gas mileage, still horrible when empty not allowing me to use it in the off season.
Wanna pass, better have a half mile to build speed.
440tq @ 4200rpm gas
or 650tq @ 1600rpm Diesel.
9mpg empty gas
15mpg empty Diesel
Plus mine has a tune that requires me to use 89+octane so gas price difference vs. Diesel is nill.
Maybe I should just get a smaller boat

Gas:
Loses speed on any slight incline, always downshifting and revving to 3000rpm plus, doesn`t wanna shift back to overdrive unless I let off, horrible gas mileage, still horrible when empty not allowing me to use it in the off season.
Wanna pass, better have a half mile to build speed.
440tq @ 4200rpm gas
or 650tq @ 1600rpm Diesel.
9mpg empty gas
15mpg empty Diesel
Plus mine has a tune that requires me to use 89+octane so gas price difference vs. Diesel is nill.
Maybe I should just get a smaller boat
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Have a 7.3, Wish I would have bought a v-10 truck. Love the 99-04 superdutys with the v-10. Yes the turning radius is **** on the 99-04, and they are a bit bumpier of a ride, but thats the price ya pay for leafs all the way around.
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The manufacturers have done a good job of neutering the heavy duty gas towing truck. The Ford V10 did a great job, especially the 3 valve motors, but Ford ditched it for the 6.2. So if you want a gas motor, you get a V8 that will not do what the V10 did or a diesel that is overkill. Same with GM. The 8.1 with an Allison was a great combo, but now you can get a 6.0 gas and whatever half assed auto tranny they stick behind it or a Duramax and an Allison. Same goes for the new Rams. At a 7K dollar premium over a gas job, why offer a second option that only nets you 2 grand extra on a sale? Add in the fact new diesels are much more refined than the older motors and it becomes an easier sell to Joey Boater than the anemic gas offerings.
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Mild you are just a trouble maker.
First you say that a blown 468cu in? is better then a 540 NA motor! pssssssssss
Then you tell people your fountain isn't really a feather lite 33 foot like everyone knows.
Now you are trying to say a DRW long bed GAS truck is just as good or,,,,,,,,,,, BETTER Then towing as a SWR short bed diesel,,,,,OMG
What's next? You going to tell us other boat companies count the bustle in the length of their boats?
First you say that a blown 468cu in? is better then a 540 NA motor! pssssssssss
Then you tell people your fountain isn't really a feather lite 33 foot like everyone knows.
Now you are trying to say a DRW long bed GAS truck is just as good or,,,,,,,,,,, BETTER Then towing as a SWR short bed diesel,,,,,OMG
What's next? You going to tell us other boat companies count the bustle in the length of their boats?
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I averaged 11.2 mpg at about 75 since it was a cool night and the egts stayed around 1100. That was with a 'junk' 6.0 stroker 4:10 geared dually with 37" swampers turning 1900! To each their own. Just shy of 28k. Shifted a few times around Jefferson city but i don't use the cruise so i cheat. Start getting out of it around 98.5% power usage and you're good. Boost in the mid-upper 20s all the way with no studs...i impressed myself even! Don't murder me but i would never in a million years go back to a gas engine. Not saying its not more than capable but i couldnt be happier with its first long test with the boat!



