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techman 09-28-2015 08:50 AM


I've been through your post. That is a lot of the reason I went with the Avalanche 2500.
I am kind of surprised with the mileage I have seen. On my trip home 176 miles; 112 miles at ~60 mph Highways and 64 miles at 72 mph Expressway = 16.07 mpg and the last 209 miles daily driving, city, highway and towing the Scarab 30 miles = 12.77 mpg. I do drive with a light foot. I did see 9.97 mpg with 143 miles city and little highway driving, expected. This is all hand calculations.
That may be because you have the taller gear set. Most of them had 4.10 rear ends which make them stump pullers but at the cost a few MPG's. I have 4.10 and I get 13 mpg normally and 9-10 mpg towing.

JRider 09-28-2015 09:01 AM


Originally Posted by wannabe (Post 4359041)
I had a Avalanche 2500. I recommend "keys" for the front to level. Cranking the torsion rides hard. I have aluminum spacers. I really didn't notice much difference with them on. I had 137k on mine. I did a Hypettech tuner and it really helped performance, gave me another 500 rpms on the 8.1 and you need it when towing.

I also replaced the shocks with new Bilsteins at 110k and wow- really helped.

There is absolutely no difference in cranking the torsion bars vs different keys. The only time you need keys is when there is no adjustment left in the adjuster bolts. What is done in either case is an rotational adjustment...there is no loading the keys any differently. No matter if keys or adjusted or replaced with offset hex keys...if it goes up in front the truck will need alignment. And really, going up an 1" is about as much as you want to go as the tie rod ends will be pushing on the Pitman and idler arms at off angles which will prematurely wear them out. Also if longer shocks are not put on they stockers will top out and self destruct.

I have done multiple lifts on torsion bar trucks, a true lift the only correct way to go up on that style suspension. A knuckle type lift is the only way to go.

575cat 09-28-2015 09:39 AM

I was going to mention this Jrider but you know how the bashing goes I will shut up .

wannabe 09-28-2015 09:46 AM


Originally Posted by techman (Post 4359562)
That may be because you have the taller gear set. Most of them had 4.10 rear ends which make them stump pullers but at the cost a few MPG's. I have 4.10 and I get 13 mpg normally and 9-10 mpg towing.

Mine was the 4.10 and I NEVER got 16 mpg. Saw 14 one time on the highway driving to my sisters in Indy at 65 mph.... I went nutz because it turned a 4 hour drive into a 5 1/2 drive.

If your towing a boat then I highly recommenf the Firestone Air Bags.

Wannabe

JRider 09-28-2015 10:02 AM


Originally Posted by Griff (Post 4359448)
For the leveling it, get new torsion keys. If you just crank them, it will eat tires even with being aligned.



I just got a new Curt hitch this Spring rated at 16k for my 2500HD. Eastern Marine was cheapest by far and it was drop shipped free.

See post 12

ChaseO 09-28-2015 10:41 AM

I thought the cranked torsion bars rode worse than a truck with keys until I put my first set in and understood how they worked.

The one thing you have to be careful about is a lot of people that put keys in, will then crank them to achieve even more lift. Best case scenario, the ride suffers. Worst case scenario, stripped out axles and failing shocks.


As far as MPG, I have a 2500HD. I think the Avalanches are capable of better MPG due to the different tranmissions. That being said, I've never hit 13 mpg with my truck in 4 years of ownership.

BIGSLOW 09-28-2015 11:01 AM

Cranked torsion bars and/or keys will make your front end ride rough. If you want to do it right and keep the factory ride then this is what you need. Replacing the shocks and upper control arms will keep everything as close to factory but with the added ride height.

http://www.cognitomotorsports.com/co...ocks-1319.html

Gimme Fuel 09-28-2015 01:37 PM

I have the 4.10 gears as well. I can pull 16-17 mpg easily up to 60 mph. Above that it tanks with the gears. 65+ mph highway is 11-12 unloaded and 10-11 pulling. I averaged 10.4 pulling to Kentucky and back. Not too bad really. Weight has almost no bearing on MPG with mine, but holy cow does wind resistance of whatever you are pulling or if there is a head wind.

FIXX 09-28-2015 02:18 PM


Originally Posted by JRider (Post 4359571)
There is absolutely no difference in cranking the torsion bars vs different keys. The only time you need keys is when there is no adjustment left in the adjuster bolts. What is done in either case is an rotational adjustment...there is no loading the keys any differently. No matter if keys or adjusted or replaced with offset hex keys...if it goes up in front the truck will need alignment. And really, going up an 1" is about as much as you want to go as the tie rod ends will be pushing on the Pitman and idler arms at off angles which will prematurely wear them out. Also if longer shocks are not put on they stockers will top out and self destruct.

I have done multiple lifts on torsion bar trucks, a true lift the only correct way to go up on that style suspension. A knuckle type lift is the only way to go.

on a half ton,,they ride better but on a 3/4 ton with the
kk tortion bars my suburban rides like ****...put the keys in and it rides like a caddy now..

JRider 09-28-2015 08:29 PM


Originally Posted by FIXX (Post 4359761)
on a half ton,,they ride better but on a 3/4 ton with the
kk tortion bars my suburban rides like ****...put the keys in and it rides like a caddy now..

THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN CRANKING THE TORSION BARS OR INSTALLING DIFFERENT HEX KEYS. EITHER WAY YOU ARE CHANGING THE POSITION OF THE TORSION BAR. THIS IS SO BASIC. My guess is you installed new shocks with the keys that give it more drop out....either way it's a ****ty way to lift a truck. I'm done here.


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