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Old 11-29-2018 | 12:52 PM
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I think the real issue is that we have not figured out what to do with all the people that lose their jobs and the effect it has on other businesses around.

That is the real issue, because the people that no longer don't have a income don't disappear. We really need to figure out how to make the transition and its not just with factory workers, technology is driving a lot of people out of work.

Many years ago I was in China (as a supplier to Shanghai GM), and seen people doing some work. I laughed and told my Chinese resident engineer in America we would automate that. He looked at me and asked

"But what do you do with the people then?". Very good point.
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Old 11-29-2018 | 12:55 PM
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Ok that is weird a picture of me and my team just popped up on the computer, we were on a Chinese bus! Right after I posted the above!!!!!!!
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Old 11-29-2018 | 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Baja Rooster
Most of their “green” cars missed the target of being anything worthwhile even if gas was $10g.


Yeah, that goes for most of the automakers though. Why do they always have to look like a roller skate? Do they always have to have a Start Ship Enterprise themed body style?
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Old 11-29-2018 | 02:00 PM
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I recently bought a 450 Limited but I bought it for me and my needs. I’m not buying (or not buying) a certain vehicle because of anything else.

I get what you’re saying, but I switched to Ford simply because they had a lot more luxury options. Had GM had the most available, I’m certainly not avoiding buying one because of this.

Its not like there there is a huge selection of brands of one ton diesels for towing, there Is only 3 choices.
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Old 11-29-2018 | 03:41 PM
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I do know that GM recently put an insane amount of money into the truck and suv lines, a lot of which hasnt even hit the show room yet.. And that info isnt internet conjecture, It's straight from one of the senior engineers that was working on it, GM also has a lot invested in autonomous extreme efficiency military vehicle research next generation stuff.... that last sentence will self destruct in 5-4-3-2..........
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Old 11-29-2018 | 04:14 PM
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First they got to get windows to go up . Switches to last longer than 30 k miles , lol worst in industry I’ve been in twenty to thirty gym vehicles. Every light on. No gauges Ect. Never ending chit storm with them !!
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Old 11-29-2018 | 04:29 PM
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military vehicle research
As a retired DoD employee which dealt with many contractor's, there were none of them not making lots of coin doing research for the Military
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Old 11-29-2018 | 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by ROB FREEMAN
First they got to get windows to go up . Switches to last longer than 30 k miles , lol worst in industry I’ve been in twenty to thirty gym vehicles. Every light on. No gauges Ect. Never ending chit storm with them !!
Company's can't make dependable window switches, but they can make self driving cars that zip down the freeway at 70 mph... whats wrong with this picture?? lol
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Old 11-29-2018 | 06:42 PM
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It was a shocker.

i normally do pretty good at undertstanding corporate doing what is best for the company but here in Ohio, local news, interviewed a pissed off, fired employee through the plants fence and he yelled to the news reporter, “I moved my family twice for this company!”

A companies goal is not to provide jobs but come on........
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Old 11-29-2018 | 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by GRH
Should have let GM die 10 years ago rather then bail it out..... survival of the fittest apply's to poorly run companies too....
Agree with the sentiment but truthfully, there would have been a huge economic impact with that scenario. A lot of support manufacturing and sub contracting would have been lost also.That would practically guarantee a depression, not a recession as experienced. I feel the bailouts to GM and Chrysler were generally worthwhile, the problem is GM's selfish, consistently flawed business plan which disregards the efforts by President Trump and the American taxpayers in general, and their workers specifically. GM should have had a contingency plan in place that would have softened the blow a month before Christmas! The song remains the same at GM, profits first, deception second, workers a distant third.
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