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Old 10-31-2022 | 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by hoodoo
Is that local? Background looks like FL. I just got back from working out west where it’s usually close to a buck higher than FL. Last I noticed was 5.35$ but going up steadily.
Yes Cocoa Florida, most around here are running in $2 a gallon more. It's total BS but I think most people don't notice because they have gas vehicles. What they don't understand is EVERYTHING gets touched by a Diesel truck or train.
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Old 10-31-2022 | 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by boostbros
we have a diesel Mazda cx5 it get in the 30smpg i do think it was discontinued its a 2019
most did…bmw, Mercedes, vw all stopped selling diesel cars. you might still be able to buy a Range Rover? Not sure.
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Old 10-31-2022 | 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by 1MOSES1
most did…bmw, Mercedes, vw all stopped selling diesel cars. you might still be able to buy a Range Rover? Not sure.
Not much left for diesel choices. GM, Ford, FCA, Benz and RR. All trucks.

Let's not forget about all the diesel powered ships making the world economy possible.

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Old 10-31-2022 | 10:56 AM
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I live in Oregon and we recently vacationed in Florida. I immediately noticed that the diesel prices were close to that in Oregon, but the gas prices were way different. In Oregon gas is near the price of Diesel! LOL
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Old 10-31-2022 | 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by 1MOSES1
most did…bmw, Mercedes, vw all stopped selling diesel cars. you might still be able to buy a Range Rover? Not sure.

No I think RR dumped the diesels too..........they are switching the new ones to hybrids
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Old 10-31-2022 | 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by 1MOSES1
kinda off topic…but I wish car companies in the US would offer more diesel options. Virtually all of them discontinued sales within the last 3-5 years.

Europe gets them but we don’t…guessing it’s because of the stringent pollution laws? Or do they not sell?

They all had issues when the diesel went low sulfur and the emissions were choking them out. Mercedes went to BlueTec and they were certainly not reliable like the 80's 300d that would go 500K miles.
I owned a pair of GL320 CDIs, one was great, the other was lemon lawed (it would die in traffic, towed in). The savings on diesel didn't really pay off either.
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Old 10-31-2022 | 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Jupiter Sunsation
They all had issues when the diesel went low sulfur and the emissions were choking them out. Mercedes went to BlueTec and they were certainly not reliable like the 80's 300d that would go 500K miles.
I owned a pair of GL320 CDIs, one was great, the other was lemon lawed (it would die in traffic, towed in). The savings on diesel didn't really pay off either.
I miss the old school diesels that would run for 500k miles
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Old 10-31-2022 | 02:41 PM
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I'm sure the concept of planned obsolescence has at least something to do with the fact that we don't see anything made to last 500k miles anymore.
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Old 11-01-2022 | 08:46 AM
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The environmental crusaders have really pinched the production capacity of the US, not by going after drilling/fracking or pipelines, but the end of it that is rarely discussed end of refining. That is where our real shortage is causing high fuel and derivative prices. Refineries have been quietly going under, being put up for sale with no buyers to be found forcing them to close.

Current environmental laws basically prohibit a new refinery to be built so we are running on 50+ year old crap, that once again, could be built far more efficiently and "green" with today's technology, but instead we run on band-aided in and permit grandfathered facilities with process control modernizations, but really no changes to the actual distillation process since it was originally constructed.

You want the ultimate green energy? Nuclear. Expensive way to boil water for steam yes, but the amount of energy vs. per pound of waste is unmatched. Once again, new technology can make it very safe if we invested in new. Once again, we still run on crap built in the 50's and 60's.

This not in my backyard and absolute abolitionist mentality must stop. Too much "Political Science" out there and not enough "Engineering Science".
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Old 11-01-2022 | 09:11 AM
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