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Velocity Vector 05-30-2009 08:06 PM

14044807...454T..............4-bolt, Bowtie, MkIV, CNC prep, Tall deck, 4.25" bore or 4.495" bores

Pistons should be dish aluminum.

Pro Series crankshaft
Stroke: 5.300 in.
Main Bearing: 2.750 in.
Rod Journals: 2.200 in.
Minimum Rod Length: 7.200 in.
Rear Main Seal: 2-piece
Nice crank, about 2G's

jeff1000man 05-31-2009 10:04 AM


Originally Posted by Velocity Vector (Post 2876593)
14044807...454T..............4-bolt, Bowtie, MkIV, CNC prep, Tall deck, 4.25" bore or 4.495" bores

Pistons should be dish aluminum.

Pro Series crankshaft
Stroke: 5.300 in.
Main Bearing: 2.750 in.
Rod Journals: 2.200 in.
Minimum Rod Length: 7.200 in.
Rear Main Seal: 2-piece
Nice crank, about 2G's

If that is the crank that is in that engine it night be a good one, but hly hell that is a long stroke to be putting in that block.

I would never go bigger than 4 3/8 and that is pushing it

Go back down to a 4.25 crank and a flat top piston. You'll have much better results over all.

No wonder it came apart.

mikes280 05-31-2009 10:16 AM

if the block is not split it can be fixed

DareDevil 05-31-2009 10:16 AM


Originally Posted by jeff1000man (Post 2876823)
If that is the crank that is in that engine it night be a good one, but hly hell that is a long stroke to be putting in that block.

I would never go bigger than 4 3/8 and that is pushing it

Go back down to a 4.25 crank and a flat top piston. You'll have much better results over all.

No wonder it came apart.

Thats what i was thinking.:party-smiley-004:

Also a Bowtie talldeck is better then the dart or merlin blocks !

I just like them .:eek:

jeff1000man 05-31-2009 11:10 AM


Originally Posted by daredevil (Post 2876827)
Thats what i was thinking.:party-smiley-004:

Also a Bowtie talldeck is better then the dart or merlin blocks !

I just like them .:eek:

No it's not. They are old technology. Good blocks, but not as good as a modern DART

jab052783 05-31-2009 11:37 AM

Cam
 
Thanks for your help guys I am still having some trouble with the cam though the numbers on it are CR13H000036, 200486, 13-18-00 and here is a link to the lunati web site for my crank what is the stroke is it 4.375 or 5.300 again thanks for all the help

jeff1000man 05-31-2009 12:17 PM


Originally Posted by jab052783 (Post 2876865)
Thanks for your help guys I am still having some trouble with the cam though the numbers on it are CR13H000036, 200486, 13-18-00 and here is a link to the lunati web site for my crank what is the stroke is it 4.375 or 5.300 again thanks for all the help

If it really was a 454, then it is a 4". If it is any of those others, then it is a bigger engine than 454

4.25 crank would have made it a 496+- depending on the overbore.

Anything bigger than that is worthless in that engine IMO.

jeff1000man 05-31-2009 12:22 PM

Take the whole pile of iron to a machine shop down there. OWENS is probably the better one down there and let him TELL you what you have and make a decision on wether to mess with putting it back together based on real info and not speculation off of this board. He is up in Pearland. There isn't any other shops down there that I would trust with anything.

He will shoot you straight. If you need parts, I got a whole shop full of them. I got some engines down there right now also if yo uwant to look at some of them. He is running them on his dyno.

Find out what parts you have from him and I might take what is still good in on trade from you.

DareDevil 05-31-2009 03:23 PM


Originally Posted by jeff1000man (Post 2876881)
If it really was a 454, then it is a 4". If it is any of those others, then it is a bigger engine than 454

4.25 crank would have made it a 496+- depending on the overbore.

Anything bigger than that is worthless in that engine IMO.

Jeff,,,i call BS on that.
My engine is a standard deck Bowtie 454/509, with 4 " crank and 4.500 bore.
And still have room to go .90 over !!! easy.
U can easy build a 572 out of mine so a 620 out of a bowtie talldeck would be no problem.
The bowtie's are siamese bored blocks ,,i think the new ones are not ?!
The biggest crank i ever seen in a bowtie talldeck was 5.25 " stroke. Still running.

mmmmhhhhh.........................
I say fix the block and go with an engine builder that knows what he is doing.

mikes280 05-31-2009 08:22 PM


Originally Posted by daredevil (Post 2876928)
Jeff,,,i call BS on that.
My engine is a standard deck Bowtie 454/509, with 4 " crank and 4.500 bore.
And still have room to go .90 over !!! easy.
U can easy build a 572 out of mine so a 620 out of a bowtie talldeck would be no problem.
The bowtie's are siamese bored blocks ,,i think the new ones are not ?!
The biggest crank i ever seen in a bowtie talldeck was 5.25 " stroke. Still running.

mmmmhhhhh.........................
I say fix the block and go with an engine builder that knows what he is doing.

572 out of a standerd deck block?


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