I saw that you mentioned in another post that the 37 demand is 8 to 1 of the 33. That is supportive of the data because someone will pony up for a 37 @ 300K+ 8 times more often than someone who will pony up for a 33 @ 250K+. The 43 should have the same demand as the 37 if not more one you get a few out on the poker runs and the Miami boat Show.


You are right about something, I am a “value” buyer and that doesn’t mean cheap. That means my favorite equation is marginal cost vs. marginal benefit. I don’t see 200K in value for a 39 Top Gun versus a 37 Active Thunder.

Damn, I hate being middle class......:D

I some what agree. But honestly I haven't sold a 32 since 2002 and the economy was not an issue. Everything was a 37. Just the trend for our boats.

If I had to build one for myself, I would build the 33 with 496 HOs, get you to dial in my props and spank you offshore! :party-smiley-004:

Oh yeah, and then give Diane the money I saved to pizz away on something stupid for the house. :D

Sounds like you are a value buyer! :)

Nah, cheap!

It seems it is easier to downsize a bigger boat than upsize a smaller one. Sunsation is building a 36-38 next. The 43 was built off the 38 Powerplay hull, adding a swim platform and staggering the power. The cabin/ cockpit are within an inch of a 38 PP. Saw Joe last weekend at the Palm Beach show and he told me after 11 built 43's he has not made one change to the bottom. All boats so far have been 700's (John's #1 hull was 600's) and they are currently building a 1075 boat now for a current F4 owner.

Yep! Sans liner is the way to go. :D

Interesting thing is I have rafted up several times to a couple 38 TG's and my boat actually looked longer. I even had more than one person say the same thing. A quick measurement to the end of the transom and swim platform, prior to ordering my winter cover, proved its just a 37' boat. :(

Oh well, I pay for one less foot per month of dry storage. :D

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If I had to build one for myself, I would build the 33 with 496 HOs, get you to dial in my props and spank you offshore! :party-smiley-004:

I wish someone would do that. Pat if I could I would be there in a heartbeat to build that boat it would be the perfect alround boat. Why has nobody wanted one?

[QUOTE=cosmic12;2513491]I'll take one if your buyin!!!:cool-smiley-027:

[QUOTE=cosmic12;2513491]I believe a local guy around here has his mind set on building a 33 with 496's. :D

[QUOTE=slboatdrinks;2513537]I just want to see what the #s would be and how it would handle. Just seems to me to so perfect, cost---ins---fuel---warr--ect ect. Maybe someday.

[QUOTE=cosmic12;2513555]The difference between a 496 37 boat and 525 37 boat is not that great. I would think the same for the 33.

Handling is the same on the 37 with either power as well. I wouldn't think a 33 with 496's handles any different than mine.

Ya it probly doesn't make any differnce in handleing other than proping (I will leave that to Clark) I just think it would be a great package if speed was not an issue. Though I will admitt the resale would probly suffer.

Absolutely a great package in either the 33 or 37.

I just prefer the extra punch with the 525's. :D

I hear that.

[QUOTE=cosmic12;2513491]Its about 30K less. After you add XR's and steering, CMI's, you are at 10K less than 525's. Not worth it when you are spending 250K. You can get the extended on the 525EFI for 4.5K per side. Its about 3k per side on the 496's.

[QUOTE=crb76;2514066]Clark, the 496's come with a 5 year warranty out of the box.

The 525's only have a year warranty out of the box. You have to spend an additional $9k on the 5252's to get the same warranty period that the 496's come with from the factory.

That's a huge difference.

[QUOTE=slboatdrinks;2514146]Where can I find me a set of them thar 5252's? :evilb::D

[QUOTE=slboatdrinks;2514146]Is that true? That must be new. Last year the 496's came with 2 year if installed by a "Diamond Mercruiser" Manufacturer and 1 year if they were not a "Diamond Mercruiser" Manufacturer. All a Diamond manufacturer is a company that installs more than X amount of motors a year. Fountain, Donzi, and Baja are all Diamond

The reason I know that was that Pat was trying to sell me on a 496 33 when I bought my boat. To upgrade to the 5 year extended it was 3K per side at in late 2006.

That is a negative Ghostrider. The OOB warranty on a 496 MAG/HO is 1 year. It is 2 years with a Mercury Certified installation.

Extended warranties are separate; and have a cost associated.

[QUOTE=crb76;2514175]Sorry for the incorrect info. For some reason I had it set in my head that the 496's had a 5 yr. warranty.

I think Brian told me he had 5 yrs on his 496's. I didn't realize it was an extended plan that he was referring to.

Now, aren't you glad you opted for the 37? I sure am because it was YOUR boat that sold me! :D

Now, if it would just quit raining...I can splash my girl...and fill the tanks before gas goes to the moon...:(

Why all the argument over 496s or 525s, they just need to be staggered :evilb::party-smiley-004:

I love the 37. Especially since I boat in FL a lot. There are few boats build that I would feel comfortable in saving Jasby's ass in 6-8 footers at night! :)

My next one is going to be staggered :grinser010:

I thought this thread was about building a 39 footer.
Just take that stupid swim platform of the 43 and you'd be there.
Besides Thunders have flat transoms and recessed forward decks..that's just how it is.
What ever you build... it needs to be able to be staggered even if it means getting Harry and redesigning or moving the step.
I believe today to be competitive speed is more important than size. But the real trick is to have both!!

Absolutely !!! There's a reason Nor-Tech, Cigarette, Outerlimits, Donzi, Fountain and others are doing it. Of the just named builders you see who I mentioned first. :grinser010:

They all stagger with a different hull design than the DDC.

Just because it works well for others, does not mean it will work well for all.

If you can't beat'em join'em :evilb: I think thats how the saying goes :D

I can do 92 with stock power and ride better in snotty seas than the competition. I will take the AT design over the competition any day of the week. :D

It seems like it's working well for everybody except AT and the now defunct brand called Baja :hitfan:

So now you want a FAJA. :p

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Mark, WTF is that avatar:angry-smiley-038:

Yeah, I think he's in the FEMA trailer after that dis.:angry-smiley-038:

There's changes in the wind :D

102 at 5350
89 at 4500
77 at 4000
:D

Where you headed Mark?:party-smiley-004:

Fort Meyers :D and triple digits :evilb: