Well I was told by Jay that it's going to cost me $3900 to get my cockpit fixed and this has been going on since October. I know you guys have made some effort to get it resolved but bottom line is i've got to pay. After reading those attatchments I see why. I'll have my checkbook with me when I come to pick the boat up.

Hey guys..I believe Nortech had 5 boats with this type or similiar carbon material problems..they had to sue the material manufacturer for not making good on the material. They replaced the 5 customers cockpits with the new carbon fiber and all has been great to date. I love the stuff personally, but elected to not go that route and take a chance. Good Luck. Jeff

and I think Darlene Welchance needs something stiff and it's not a bristle brush. :grinser010:

Pat, I was not commenting to make you look poorly at all. I said the "industry as a whole" actually to direct it away from you personaly. Sorry if it looked that way. But I believe it to be true that for what boats cost there should be alot more accountability than there is for the most part. There isn't another bis/industry whatever you want to call it that gets away with some of the crap that is loaded on customers. I think (hope) you know that I support you and Active Thunder above all others. You are right I don't have ALL the facts but I am not totaly clueless here. This isn't the first time I have voiced my thoughts openly and honestly and I am sure it won't be the last time I get myself into chit for it. As I said I am sure you have done and are doing everything you can to take care of it and it will be resolved. I wish you and Mark all the best in hopes that it all works out and everybody is happy.

Norwegion people are some of the best people in the world.The family that bought my business when I sold it are originly from Norway. Honesty and integrity mean something to them. They were one of the largest Scallop companys in the world and acquiring my company made them the largest. Check them out www.easternfisheries.com

Isn't there an old manufacturer and now there is a new company and the new stuff is holding up better.
Although on the FPC BoatShow Run I thought the silver in "Where's Eilleen" was doing the same thing and isn't that a relative new boat. Correct me if I'm wrong.
When we had the fishboat built we wanted carbon fiber and Glasstream got samples and were not impressed and refused to put it in the boat. But I guess with the new company they now are using it.
But I believe that whatever a builder uses and no matter what the customer thinks he wants it should hold up. If it will not or could be questionable then don't use. Sun protection for humans, salt/sweat, the sun, rubbing on it , walking on it and most of all WATER..jesus it's a BOAT..it's suppose to take this !!
But also my belief that the boat owner should not have to pay for correcting the problem..unless you have video of him abusing it with chemicals and such.
BUT THIS PROBABLY WOULD NOT HAPPEN IF IT WAS EXACTLY 39'
And staggers would cause you to have to shrink the cockpit and therefore there would be less open space for less direct sunlight and water to be directed to the carbon fiber:party-smiley-004::D:D

Same Company they just restructured there name. I've been on there website tonight and the funny thing is they tell you how to care for there product and it says to clean with a damp cloth and use 303 Protectant which is EXACTLY how I did mine. My dealings in business tells me when a company changes names it is a ploy to eliminate them from liability for there product. Big company though with 4 plants in 3 states. 1 plant in Maryville Tennesee. Thats where MasterCrafts are built so my guess is there a big customer. MasterCraft built over 4000 boats last year. I guess if I had been more "courteous" I would have got mine fixed for free. :rolleyes:

Check there junk out and the conveniant name change last year when all the problems surfaced with there product. www.gtGLOBALPRODUCTSOLUTIONS.COM

The wife is a little pizzed about me having to spend 4 grand to fix the cockpit because she figures that was a new bigger better b00b job. So before i get a Nor-Tech she wants some new Hi-Tech flare on here bow. I'm going from a 37 to a 39 and she wants to go from a 38 to a 40. You know what I told her "we can afford both" :cool-smiley-027:

Thats funny :D:drink:

I'll post results and pics. of both :D

So are you going to build or do they have one for ya?

You can't get a new 39' for 6 month and a 43' is a year.

WOW must be nice to be that booked ahead. Wish I could aford it I would be inline for Over Active.

The boat that was on the cover of Powerboat in September is available but I want a new one with a Hammerstick paint job :cool-smiley-027:

Cig, Nor-Tech and Outerimits are selling about 40 percent of there production to Europe and thats why there forging ahead. Like I said in one of my earlier post if you can't beat them join them. :D

Good luck and keep us posted. I gotta hit the hay.

LMAO!! Well OK then:p

They are REALLY a deal over there with the de-valued dollar.

looks like it will happen?

:popcorn:

I thought I saw a boat very similar to your avatar for sale in the classifieds. Was that your boat ?

yea that was me, i put 2 inch spacers on the drives and fell back in love with the boat. Last poker run i spanked 40 of the 42 boats at 102mph all day long.. going to keep it until next year,nobody has any money except one dude & he wanted to low ball me..... i will sell it next year or trade it in when the f..... banks start lending money again.

there is a difference in low balling ... or giving you a fair price for what the market is at and the customer wanting the boat now vs having to wait till spring to get it for the same price after you've put many more hours on it.. You can build a 184k 2010 model 496ho boat..which helps Pat keep the guys working through winter. It's all about survival right at the moment. More power like your's with 525's is 198k. Those are great deals.. same price when I bought in 2002... and resin has gone up, along with many other materials. It's all relative at this moment until the economy gets better.. and my personal opinion..spring will not be better...I pray I'm wrong. Think about your decision if you need a sale. If not, enjoy your boat. Good luck. Jeff

102, what motors?

What drive setup are you running ? we are looking at two different options and would love to hear your experience.

XRS for now,konrads when they hit the market in feb. it ran 106 mph before the 2inch spacers. lost a couple mph will run 102 mph with 7 people & half tank of full all day long or until a drive breaks...

525s with whipples 750 hp each 4 pounds at 5100 rpms

I thought about it and what i paid for the boat. 285,000 & then put 30,000 into it last year. to sell it for 160,000 was a little crazy. its paid off, so i don't need a new boat right now .Going to put the money into my business in a new location in philadelphia. i believe like you that we have 2 more years of this stuff with the banks. Until bank of america goes broke from most people not paying there credit card bills,it isn't over. i really do injoy being one of the fast guys, will keep it one more summer & then give it away. thanks. mike

"It's all about survival right at the moment. More power like your's with 525's is 198k"

Pat call me

270 442 1777

Jeff

how about the new 39 with 850s & six drives.

BUILD IT AND THEY WILL COME

39 is good for guys that don't want another 43-45' boat, but still want decent headroom in a good looking offshore package that is longer than a 37...hint..hint..

All I can say is that the drawing board has been consulted. :D