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laszlo01 11-27-2012 07:19 AM


Originally Posted by sommerfliesby (Post 3821718)
Hahaha! Thanks Laz!

Might be heading north this weekend or next if the snow holds on....looks like Kalkaska got a good load!

Sure did. We got 16" at our house overnight official report was 15". See you up there soon.

DRP 11-27-2012 07:20 AM

As said above that 33's are nonexistent and 32's are slim to nil.
The only 32's that I know of that I would consider is the one in the classifieds with 496 HO's but seems nice but a little and makes me wonder why everything was replaced?
The pier 57 redo...this boat is in my backyard and it came out awesome but I don't think Scott will sell it. He will probably keep it for a show piece. If he does sell it, it will probably be priced up there with a 33, so the 33 would be the choice.
Also saw one on Craigslist from Miami...has boxes and 525sc's. This one is interesting to me because of the setup but the saltwater scares me so much that it doesn't interest me.

DRP 11-27-2012 07:26 AM

Keep the info coming about the 32 and 33's. Would love to learn everything about them. Pics, speeds with what power, how or if boxes helps.

Powerplays are as hard to find as well but would like to here if any other mainstream boats "somewhat" compare. My heart is with AT and will probably have to wait as long as it takes for the right one to come along or win the lotto but just wondering.

Thanks!

rchevelle71 11-27-2012 07:44 AM

How about a 33PP with outboards?

http://www.screamandfly.com/showthre...MERCURY-300X-s

POWERPLAY J 11-27-2012 08:24 AM


Originally Posted by Bad-Influence (Post 3821986)
Guys, thanks for all the replies! I am learning a lot and enjoying the read.

PPJ - I'm not ready to buy yet, probably be a couple of years...just trying to get my ducks in a row. Before I even started this thread I was in love with the 33 AT but there just aren't enough out there to be had. I have been window shopping for AT's for a couple of years now and they are hard to find. I feel I have a better chance of finding and being able to afford a 32.

Thats cool. You have time to find a nice one. Can't beat the amenities in the AT especially for overnight. My buddy made a filler for the lounge and can sleep 4 adults.

Griff 11-27-2012 12:31 PM


Originally Posted by Bad-Influence (Post 3821989)
As said above that 33's are nonexistent and 32's are slim to nil.
The only 32's that I know of that I would consider is the one in the classifieds with 496 HO's but seems nice but a little and makes me wonder why everything was replaced?

It was a repoed boat that was partially stripped and was not taken care off. It was never damaged or under water, at least not prior to 2007. Mainly it was just neglected.

ActiveThunder 11-27-2012 06:13 PM


Originally Posted by ICDEDPPL (Post 3821800)
Amenities are top notch on the AT fo sho
I have a stupid question not related... so the AT is supposed to be a wave crusher AND not take a ton of HP to run fast.
How is this accomplished?
Characteristics of a wave crusher is weight, but its not heavy since they run fast so how can you crush waves AND be fast?

I build them "heavy". Not a resin bucket but a very thorough and expensive lay-up where everything is double bonded and will not come apart. Essentially what we refer to in the bodyshop as a unibody.

The hull design kinda counteracts the weight and gives it speed.

In a different business where we repair and paint/ graphic boats I see failures from some high profile builders that make me shake my head as to why they would be put in a position of liability and warranty for the sake of a few MPH.

There was a period of time where we ran faster and were lighter than many builders but warranty issues made me rethink being the fastest in smooth water to being the most fearless in rough water.

I chose the rough water. Hence a boat that rides very well in rough water but is agile and quick through design. When I land that solid "thump" is all I want to hear.

So the answer to your question really is that it is a wave crusher with a combination of weight and hull design but at the same time fast to hull design alone. DDC patented. I don't see a patented hull design with any of the competition but many will pay $100k+ to get a boat that doesn't handle safely and has warranty issues for a better advertised name.

Why?

POWERPLAY J 11-27-2012 06:32 PM

[QUOTE=ActiveThunder;3822355

There was a period of time where we ran faster and were lighter than many builders but warranty issues made me rethink being the fastest in smooth water to being the most fearless in rough water.

I chose the rough water. Hence a boat that rides very well in rough water but is agile and quick through design. When I land that solid "thump" is all I want to hear.



If more went that route less would break up. I can think of a few...

I much prefer playing in the rough over all out speed on flat water. Good job!

THE 288 KID 11-27-2012 06:45 PM

[QUOTE=Bad-Influence;3821992]Keep the info coming about the 32 and 33's. Would love to learn everything about them. Pics, speeds with what power, how or if boxes helps.

Powerplays are as hard to find as well but would like to here if any other mainstream boats "somewhat" compare. My heart is with AT and will probably have to wait as long as it takes for the right one to come along or win the lotto but just wondering.

Thanks![/QUOTE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IcYIJ...e_gdata_player

ActiveThunder 11-27-2012 07:08 PM


Originally Posted by POWERPLAY J (Post 3821921)
Not the same hull as a PP. What is your budget? There are some nice 32 AT's that pop up from time to time.

Please don't take this as any kind of correction but most of the old V-bottoms are pretty much the same. The 32 AT and the 33 PP as well. The PP measures 32' and the AT measure 31'6". All boat builders lie about the length. Sorry, but it's the truth. Tell me you've never lied about size.....

Both my boats and Dan's boats had long, straight keels with wider lifting strakes in approximately the same place. If you can get Steve Koss to way in he would explain better.

Why do the handle well and fly so level? Go to your local "rack and stack" and walk under the boats and look up.

Where do the inner lifting strakes end?

A 45' Sonic ends where a 33 Sonics end. Same with Cig and so on and on. But only on the Vees. They stretched the boats but not the lifting strakes (aka WING). Good reason why the porpoise and nose dive all over the place. They have no lift!

Simple reason any good ol' 32 AT or 33 PP will run better with the big boys! We fly level and true.

BTW, before I bought AT I had a 30 Sonic SS and spent time at PP discussing a new 33. But I am 6-1 and slightly larger than Weinstein and just didn't fit. Hence the last 20 years building the ATs.

Done rambling......

B-I., don't give up!


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