Originally Posted by turbo rr (Post 3822405)

I saw I think a 32 for sale on the way to down to key west 2 weeks ago...didn't get a price on it.

Originally Posted by ActiveThunder (Post 3822394)

Please don't take this as any kind of correction but most of the old V-bottoms are pretty much the same. The 32 AT and the 33 PP as well. The PP measures 32' and the AT measure 31'6". All boat builders lie about the length. Sorry, but it's the truth. Tell me you've never lied about size.....

Both my boats and Dan's boats had long, straight keels with wider lifting strakes in approximately the same place. If you can get Steve Koss to way in he would explain better.

Why do the handle well and fly so level? Go to your local "rack and stack" and walk under the boats and look up.

Where do the inner lifting strakes end?

A 45' Sonic ends where a 33 Sonics end. Same with Cig and so on and on. But only on the Vees. They stretched the boats but not the lifting strakes (aka WING). Good reason why the porpoise and nose dive all over the place. They have no lift!

Simple reason any good ol' 32 AT or 33 PP will run better with the big boys! We fly level and true.

BTW, before I bought AT I had a 30 Sonic SS and spent time at PP discussing a new 33. But I am 6-1 and slightly larger than Weinstein and just didn't fit. Hence the last 20 years building the ATs.

Done rambling......

B-I., don't give up!

Originally Posted by rlj676 (Post 3822417)

Was the 32 derived from the Cobra, as I believe the PP was? Or are you saying the design principles for both are just similar and ride well?

My 28 flies level, but due to being extremely light and a single it doesn't have the kind of ride a 33 or 32 does. But I love the predictability of the hull, it is like driving a ski boat as far as ease, no tabs needed to get on plane or launch and land flat. Adding in the length and mass of the bigger boats make them pretty great rides for the size in my opinion.

Originally Posted by ActiveThunder (Post 3822394)

Please don't take this as any kind of correction but most of the old V-bottoms are pretty much the same. The 32 AT and the 33 PP as well. The PP measures 32' and the AT measure 31'6". All boat builders lie about the length. Sorry, but it's the truth. Tell me you've never lied about size.....

Both my boats and Dan's boats had long, straight keels with wider lifting strakes in approximately the same place. If you can get Steve Koss to way in he would explain better.

Why do the handle well and fly so level? Go to your local "rack and stack" and walk under the boats and look up.

Where do the inner lifting strakes end?

A 45' Sonic ends where a 33 Sonics end. Same with Cig and so on and on. But only on the Vees. They stretched the boats but not the lifting strakes (aka WING). Good reason why the porpoise and nose dive all over the place. They have no lift!

Simple reason any good ol' 32 AT or 33 PP will run better with the big boys! We fly level and true.

BTW, before I bought AT I had a 30 Sonic SS and spent time at PP discussing a new 33. But I am 6-1 and slightly larger than Weinstein and just didn't fit. Hence the last 20 years building the ATs.

Done rambling......

B-I., don't give up!

Originally Posted by turbo rr (Post 3822437)

I was wondering about where the 32 was derived from also? Is the beam 8' also?

Also how does the 28 ride compared to a 28 pantera? Similar?

Originally Posted by POWERPLAY J (Post 3822455)

...and at one time someone mentioned the AT and Sonic came from Coyote.