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Crossett 08-17-2013 09:35 PM

I need to move to Florida and marry Pat's daughter. Maybe then I could get a new AT

ActiveThunder 08-17-2013 09:48 PM


Originally Posted by Crossett (Post 3978539)
I need to move to Florida and marry Pat's daughter. Maybe then I could get a new AT

uh.....er not. :angry-smiley-038:

FastandFun 08-19-2013 09:32 AM

Pat, The 29 is looking pretty sweet! Can't wait to see more pic's

carrera1 08-19-2013 10:57 AM


Originally Posted by ActiveThunder (Post 3978543)
uh.....er not. :angry-smiley-038:

yea then your stuck with and A/T for life:party-smiley-004:lol

carrera1 08-19-2013 11:03 AM

I'll ban myself for that one:banned:

Sydwayz 08-19-2013 11:03 AM


Originally Posted by ActiveThunder (Post 3978543)
uh.....er not. :angry-smiley-038:

Pat, what is your daughter's favorite boat? (her words from a few years back) :drink:

crb76 10-06-2013 04:36 PM

I think I may have to order one. Nice work Pat!

Excess 10-06-2013 09:45 PM


Originally Posted by Sydwayz (Post 3979218)
Pat, what is your daughter's favorite boat? (her words from a few years back) :drink:

i think it was my old fountain :poopoo:

cosmic12 10-15-2013 04:55 PM

Ok, its been long enough. Any progress on this? Is there a hull yet?

ActiveThunder 10-15-2013 06:21 PM


Originally Posted by cosmic12 (Post 4012421)
Ok, its been long enough. Any progress on this? Is there a hull yet?

You know the routine.

We sanded and "reprimed" Durateced the plug. Started with 400> 600> 800>1200>1500> 3000 3m system and started polishing. I can rush ot or make it perfect. Perfect plug, perfect mold, perfect part.

Had to pull a partial crew last month when the new 33 showed for rigging.

REMEDY 10-15-2013 09:49 PM


Originally Posted by ActiveThunder (Post 4012460)
You know the routine.

We sanded and "reprimed" Durateced the plug. Started with 400> 600> 800>1200>1500> 3000 3m system and started polishing. I can rush ot or make it perfect. Perfect plug, perfect mold, perfect part.

Had to pull a partial crew last month when the new 33 showed for rigging.

Always better perfect!!!

cosmic12 10-16-2013 03:41 PM


Originally Posted by ActiveThunder (Post 4012460)
You know the routine.

We sanded and "reprimed" Durateced the plug. Started with 400> 600> 800>1200>1500> 3000 3m system and started polishing. I can rush ot or make it perfect. Perfect plug, perfect mold, perfect part.

Had to pull a partial crew last month when the new 33 showed for rigging.

I understand, just wondering. You talking hull or deck mold?

ActiveThunder 10-16-2013 04:38 PM

Deck.

cosmic12 10-16-2013 05:55 PM


Originally Posted by ActiveThunder (Post 4012929)
Deck.

Got it, ok I will leave ya to it for awhile longer

cosmic12 12-17-2013 10:19 PM

OK, I have left ya to it long enough and with all the crickets beat'n on each other maybe we should get an update on the 29?

drivrswntd 12-18-2013 11:45 AM

When I saw it over thanksgiving it was sitting ready to have a mold made out of it. They were working on that 33 and the 37 race boat.

Sydwayz 12-18-2013 12:10 PM

The 33 is going to be VERY trick, and it's the primary effort right at the moment.
The 29 is right behind it. Who wants it? We already have a couple of interested parties.

drivrswntd 12-18-2013 12:16 PM


Originally Posted by Sydwayz (Post 4043812)
The 33 is going to be VERY trick, and it's the primary effort right at the moment.
The 29 is right behind it. Who wants it? We already have a couple of interested parties.

From seeing the dash layout on the 33 when I was there, I am eagerly awaiting that one. Both sides of the dash are basically just massive touch screens.

Sydwayz 12-18-2013 12:21 PM


Originally Posted by drivrswntd (Post 4043815)
From seeing the dash layout on the 33 when I was there, I am eagerly awaiting that one. Both sides of the dash are basically just massive touch screens.

Yes, and wait until you see the trick on the bow; but we'll keep that under wraps for now.

Drock78 12-18-2013 12:56 PM

A stripper pole that doubles as a mast!?

Crossett 01-27-2014 11:18 AM

Any progress on this?

Sydwayz 01-27-2014 11:23 AM

1 Attachment(s)
Couple updates on the 29' on Facebook:
https://www.facebook.com/active.thun...f=ts&ref=br_tf

From Pat a couple weeks back:

Back to the Savage!

Mold lamination begins Monday. Based on my schedule the first deck should be on the floor March 1!
[ATTACH=CONFIG]517247[/ATTACH]

mikebrls 03-11-2014 09:19 AM

Pat any more updates :)

Gladhe8er 03-11-2014 10:55 AM

There was an update on Facebook yesterday. Making progress. First one is getting a merc 520.

mikebrls 03-14-2014 01:48 PM

Can the 29 be built with no pad or step ?

Thanks
mike

Sydwayz 03-14-2014 02:12 PM


Originally Posted by mikebrls (Post 4089791)
Can the 29 be built with no pad or step ?

Thanks
mike

Yes.

mikebrls 03-14-2014 02:28 PM

Thank's

mikebrls 03-28-2014 08:28 PM


Originally Posted by mikebrls (Post 4089791)
Can the 29 be built with no pad or step ?

Thanks
mike

what type of speed do you think with 700 to 750 hp with no pad or step ? " old school V straight back " :)

Thank's
mike

Sydwayz 03-29-2014 08:00 AM

112, give or take. :drink:

mikebrls 03-29-2014 08:03 AM

I'm thinking more like low 80 mph zone , but maybe 112 mph with a 1350 + hp :)

DRP 04-07-2014 07:05 AM

This was somewhat brought up very quickly before but how would the new 29 be with twins? I imagine BB would be way too tight, if possible at all, but what about some small twins? Is it better balanced with a single BB? Cost and space not worth it? Leaving it simple and having an entry market model (for a lack of better words)? I would much rather just step up to a 33 if going twins. The 33 is my favorite so it's hard to explain but just wondering?

Sydwayz 04-07-2014 08:49 AM


Originally Posted by Bad-Influence (Post 4102533)
This was somewhat brought up very quickly before but how would the new 29 be with twins? I imagine BB would be way too tight, if possible at all, but what about some small twins? Is it better balanced with a single BB? Cost and space not worth it? Leaving it simple and having an entry market model (for a lack of better words)? I would much rather just step up to a 33 if going twins. The 33 is my favorite so it's hard to explain but just wondering?

Will do twin OBs, but not I/O.

Wiring, controls, gauges, pumps, batteries; all that adds up in weight and cost; no matter twin BBC or SBC. It prices itself out of reach to do so in a 29' package.

Single/Twin OB or Single BBC

Single 350HP Mercury outboard, light layup, light on options, DDC (added efficiency) hull--> that would be a unique boat.
Single 557HP SevenMarine outboard = ridiculous.

DRP 04-07-2014 09:02 AM

Thanks Brian! I was just wondering since a couple/few 28's were made with twins. I wasn't sure how a twin I/o would be. I could be wrong, but I thought you or pat said that the 28 was more balanced with the single BB. I wasn't sure if the new changes would warrant twins or not and ride/fly better?
Thanks

mikebrls 04-07-2014 01:24 PM


Originally Posted by Sydwayz (Post 4102576)
Will do twin OBs, but not I/O.

Wiring, controls, gauges, pumps, batteries; all that adds up in weight and cost; no matter twin BBC or SBC. It prices itself out of reach to do so in a 29' package.

Single/Twin OB or Single BBC

Single 350HP Mercury outboard, light layup, light on options, DDC (added efficiency) hull--> that would be a unique boat.
Single 557HP SevenMarine outboard = ridiculous.

700 -800 hp BBC it will be fast and a big plus it will sound great :)

sommerfliesby 04-08-2014 09:21 AM

I'm a little curious about why you would want to do this mikebrls? I mean, you are talking about essentially removing the technology that would make the boat fast AND reliable, in order to go slightly faster and likely spend time on the dock? What would be the perceived advantage of the straight hull, no pad or step?

What does a 28 currently run with a single 700? And, more importantly what drive is on it?

I wonder what a single 565/XR in the new 29 with the DDC hull would do in comparison?

Makes me wonder if the juice would be worth the squeeze, knowwhatimsayin?

drivrswntd 04-08-2014 10:50 AM

I should be able to tell you what a single 28 with 700hp should do shortly. I'll be on the dyno friday, expecting between 670-690. I am running a Bravo XR and I have 28 #2 with a notched transom and high X.

mikebrls 04-08-2014 11:26 AM


Originally Posted by sommerfliesby (Post 4103166)
I'm a little curious about why you would want to do this mikebrls? I mean, you are talking about essentially removing the technology that would make the boat fast AND reliable, in order to go slightly faster and likely spend time on the dock? What would be the perceived advantage of the straight hull, no pad or step?

What does a 28 currently run with a single 700? And, more importantly what drive is on it?

I wonder what a single 565/XR in the new 29 with the DDC hull would do in comparison?

Makes me wonder if the juice would be worth the squeeze, knowwhatimsayin?

I love the A T boats but I hate the huge flat pad, to loose 7 or 8 mph and have a straight V bottom would be my choice . down here in the ocean your not going to run a 29 foot boat @ 100 mph anyway , A nice 80 to 85 mph boat that can cruise @ 60 mph in nice 3 to 4 footer's is what work's out in the ocean down here for that size boat " and you will be in the air half the time in real 3 to 4's. except for the 1 or 2 days in the summer when the the ocean is under 1 foot and that we would call lake water.

This is only my opinion of what I have been threw in my last 8 boats " 2- 38's 1-35 2- 28's 1-25 1-20 1-19 " down here in south Florida

mike

mikebrls 04-08-2014 11:36 AM


Originally Posted by sommerfliesby (Post 4103166)
I'm a little curious about why you would want to do this mikebrls? I mean, you are talking about essentially removing the technology that would make the boat fast AND reliable, in order to go slightly faster and likely spend time on the dock? What would be the perceived advantage of the straight hull, no pad or step?

What does a 28 currently run with a single 700? And, more importantly what drive is on it?

I wonder what a single 565/XR in the new 29 with the DDC hull would do in comparison?

Makes me wonder if the juice would be worth the squeeze, knowwhatimsayin?

Also I can only compare from my 28 pantera and from I have herd the 28 A T is a bit faster and lighter with same power .
A nice 700 to 800 hp NA motor will last just as long as say a merc 525 .
with my old 28 I had a NA 750 and the best it ran with the moon aligned was 84 mph but I took that prop off and went 2 inches smaller so I would have the mid-range throttle response for jumping wave's with that prop top speed was around 76 mph anytime anywhere with any amount of weight on the boat .
I want a boat that has put you in your seat acceleration :) top end speed is overrated in the ocean . and a I also what to cruise @ 60 mph @ 3700 rpm to 4000 rpm for motor longevity

mike

JUPITER PULSARE 04-08-2014 03:44 PM


Originally Posted by mikebrls (Post 4103252)
Also I can only compare from my 28 pantera and from I have herd the 28 A T is a bit faster and lighter with same power .
A nice 700 to 800 hp NA motor will last just as long as say a merc 525 .
with my old 28 I had a NA 750 and the best it ran with the moon aligned was 84 mph but I took that prop off and went 2 inches smaller so I would have the mid-range throttle response for jumping wave's with that prop top speed was around 76 mph anytime anywhere with any amount of weight on the boat .
I want a boat that has put you in your seat acceleration :) top end speed is overrated in the ocean . and a I also what to cruise @ 60 mph @ 3700 rpm to 4000 rpm for motor longevity

mike

Mike, if you like "put you in your seat accelleration" you should consider the 29 with twin outboard power. A couple of 300XS motors with the right amount of setback will make the AT 29 run like a raped ape and accelerate like a dragster...and still see some amazing top speed!!

sommerfliesby 04-08-2014 05:06 PM

I'm not talking engine life...although I have my doubts that a 700 or 800 hp motor would be quite as reliable as a stock Merc 520, 525 or 565....I'm talking DRIVE life. What is going to live behind 700-800 hp? IMCO SCX? And if your stated goal is torque for "wave-jumping," I'd say that would be a major concern.

Basically, what you are saying is that you want MORE horsepower to make an antiquated hull design perform in approximately the same manner as milder horsepower with an advanced hull design. This doesn't make a lot of sense to me...but hey, everyone has an opinion.


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