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cougarman for president!!!!!!!!!!!!!!or honarary tribal mamber.

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Man I love these Apache threads!!!! :D :drink: :D

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They have more heat than a woodstove.
Did he get a new 47 Apache for $10 yet? No. Well don't give up.

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Whoa whoa hold the fort and back the hell no truck up, im doing 92 GPS with advertized 850 sc on 3a's
I have a short stagger with a well half pretty weak cabin. If I dropped or juiced these with superchillers and race hatches Ill bet I would piss Mark off big time or be the biggest annoyance cause he could not walk from me
1000's are over rated. You dont need that much power to make these things move that well, then again I have a light layup as well with a short stagger just pointing some stuff out is all.
Mark does not have the fastest apache on the planet I think PApache's race boat is flat out THE fastest one out there but without knowing each and every boat built by them you will never be able to verify that.
Just a fact
Happy boating

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If that is the boat Herb Stotler had the black with the flames, he is keeping it and redoing it himself.
That one is off the market
Robert, how ya been bro?

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HA I got the best deal in the WORLD for a 41 apache, might not be a 6 boat but hell 3a works for me and the price was so much lower than the dollars you guys are bickering about LMFAO
Sorry had to twist the knife.
75 grand for 850sc's on 3a's and a brand new aluminum trailer

Might not be the prettiest 41 ever made (yet anyway) but it will be soon.
they do cost alot to keep up I will admit that Mark is right.
I dont think you need an open check book but im into my boat now for around 10 g's and have had it for 5 months.
Im going to pace myself and paint it this winter at Billy's but its a total labor of love, I will NEVER EVER EVER sell my boat unless war party gets offered to me for an even trade.
End of story
J

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Jay , Jay , Jay....NEVER say never :rolleyes:

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Hi Mark & Lucy
Mark hope you are feeling well. I am coming down Friday thru Tuesday for the show this weekend. If you guys make a quick run somewhere and need a navigator give me a call. Thanks Parnell
616-437-3852

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well said Lucy.........must be one of the reasons why I luv you.


See you tonight........m.m...

Notice the 2 carbs in pic 3.......must be those 800scs......mark.......

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Carbs ?? :D

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Mark & Lucy,

We will be out Sunday. Let's go run, maybe down to Montys? Look forward to seeing you guys.

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Lucky are you guys running Merc hi perf gear lube or duck sauce in those drives? hope to see you sunday............m.m....and Lucy...

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apache is what it is if you dont have the money dont ***** that thy arent worth it....go buy a fountain(dont jump on me for that 1 my dad has1 lol)

only reason i am selling mine which i dont want to is for expanding my business which at thispoint is pretty much expenaded and i will be taking it offthe market soon because it is IRREPLACEABLE o if you are looking to get a fully refurbed apache for 100k just because its 20 years old(16 inmycase) get back on the crack pipe cause it aint happening!!!! :evilb:

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Im taken mine off the market I'm keeping mine it is worth $400,000 to me :D I will run it next year too

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Pete, I'll offer you $600,000 for your boat. LOL...
any offer is just as good as any asking price... just look at ebay bidding, winning and relisting. :D

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good morning! going to meet Jimmy from the Marine shop Inc. the 41 is on its way to the marina. gotta go.................m.m. and Lucy..

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Which one???? :evilb: :evilb: :eek: :drink:

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both of them

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:eek: Nice job on the deck! ... I called you :drink: :evilb:

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The deck looks great! Post pics with progress.

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Flash strikes again :D :evilb:

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Nothing could back up my statements more then the new Secente Chief listed in the forem ads under Apache.The boat new can be had for mid 400s NEW with the BEST of everything- state of the art build(carbon fiber), number 6S,Chief Engines, 50,000 paint job ect,ect.Once again how do you justify mid 300s for a 20 year old hull when new is mid 400s.

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If you put Tonto and that old Moccasin side by side and said to me. "Take your pick" Immediately I would back right up to Tonto with my truck and haul it away. And you will still be clueless as to why. Take Mike's advice "Go buy a Baja, you don't deserve to own an Apache." This is my final statement to you.

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I think it's pretty simple really, they own their boats and they can sell them for whatever they want too. Just remember there is an ass for every seat. If you chosse not to pay those prices, then more power to you. Best of luck finding what you are looking for. By bashing someone and their price all you have done is make yourself look cheap..just my opinion though...

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They own their boats BUT they cant sell them for what they want to.Take Commanche for example .His boat bas been for sale on the forem for many ,many months..He has not sold it because the price is too high..Same boats for sale on the same forem,month after month.WHY.?

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PS he also knows more about what the public wants in an offshore boat than Bob Secente himself.

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PS I bet anything that that new Chief sells for mid 400s WAY BEFORE a early 90s tripple engine incomplete hull does for 80,000.00

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[QUOTE=REDDEATH]PS I bet anything that that new Chief sells for mid 400s WAY BEFORE a early 90s tripple engine incomplete hull does for 80,000.00[/QUOTE

Go buy the Chief, then post at the chief forum. If you don't like the Chief buy a 100k Apache and see what you get. Just please, for the love of god, buy something and go away. I get sick of the trolls that appear on the Apache board. Your way to clueless to own an Apache.

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By the way the hull on the Chief is about 7 years old and sat in a warehouse for many years before being rigged.

I will sell you my 41 mold for 50k and you can build as many as you would like and with whatever materials, just some thing to think about.

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According to that logic are you saying that people buying and selling Apaches for around 100 grand are getting and selling junk.Please clarify because thats what MOST of them for sale are going for.

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RBR thanks i will email you.

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They are what they are. But there is no way a 100k Apache is anywhere as nice as say a Tonto or Flying Falcon. Like I said go buy a boat, talks cheap. You get what you pay for with these boats. Sorry for chiming in, I forgot you're an expert on all things Apache.

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RD great way to make friends and ask for advise....btw have you bought a Baja yet :evilb: :evilb:

Mike

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Saw a 36' Baja for $136,000.00 sounds like the boat for you,496's CMI headers 68-70 MPH please buy it so we can leave you in the 3' - 4' duct taping your boat back together, you get what you pay for buy it please!!!

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RD - You really don't know what you are talking about, do you ? Comparing apples to oranges!
You should realize that some of the guys in this forum like Robert, Magnum Mark, Beau, and Carl have probably forgotton more about Apache Powerboats than you will ever know. These guys have dealt with every single problem that owning an Apache brings on, some of them more than once. They have "been there, done that" bro .

Comparing the Chief boat to TeamPrime just kinda' says it all.

You should stop talkin' $hit and listen, they have sound advice to give.....
Hans

Whats up Mike ? How you livin' ?

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I don't recall Tonto being offered for sale. I think his statement was akin to "If someone had to have it..."

Remember, there are only a few Apaches out there and of those, a small percentage are "the right one" Tonto is one of those boats. One that's way heavy or has sustained damage (or has been on the bottom) probably isn't.

As far as a new Chief or McManus, they're not for me. I think alot of people feel the same way. In my mind, Saber has been more faithful to the Apache heritage than any other. Have you seen their 36? It's what the Apache 36 Bobby built should have been- a downsized 41.

Here's my take- you want a 41 Apache that runs 85+ and does it turn-key reliably? It's going to take $225K, whether you buy a complete boat in top shape or redo one yourself. You want over-the-top graphics, rigging or amenities? Tack that on to the price. There are precious few exceptions- MM's 41 is a flyweight boat so it will run those speeds with less power and #3's will live a reasonable life. It's also a long-dash 3-pack with no cabin- life is full of tradeoffs. Also, you'll rarely see an Apache project boat or a fire sale. The cost of entry is steep to start with and the boats have some liabilities (like weight and the need for power) that only some hardcore SOB with the resources to back it up will wade into this pond. These aren't the guys who need to fire-sale things or run when it gets tough. No too many folks bought a 41 as their first boat.

You can probably get by cheaper with any other brand of boat- something like a Cig 38. You're also going to take a hit on rough-water capability- I went from a Cougar 46 back to the Apache 41- the Cougar wouldn't keep up with the 41 in big, nasty water. Also, what price do you put on uniqueness? If you are into getting attention, you can't do better than Apache. Go anywhere there are lots of fast boats. I've seen people walk past million-dollar cats and turbine boats to look at the Apache tied up just past them.

But then again, what do I know?

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Apache.....Many lust for them. Few can afford them. ;)

Gotta love the passions aroused by the mere mention of these legendary boats.



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...even some that own them anyway. Like me!

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McManus builds Apache. Don Aronow had faith in him. Kramer had faith in him. And for good reason. That's why his boats are held in high reguard. He is the best!