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Hot Duck 11-27-2006 05:14 PM

45 Apache
 
As many of you already know I am debating between making some changes to the Apache or going with a different boat altogether. The rest of the family wants more creature comforts (more cockpit room, cabin, bathroom, etc) while I like the hardcore plain-jane boats. So the bottom line is that I either need to make some changes to this boat or find something else.

This is where you guys come in. I have been looking around at prices listed on other Apaches and they are all over the scale. I have a recent appraisal, but it is absolutely unrealistic as to what the market price or actual selling price of this boat may be. I need to know a good ballpark so that I can weigh my options and decide which is the best way to go. So, what price would you guys list this boat at or at what price would it sell? This is certainly not a sellers market right now, but I just need a good consensus on an actual market value. I really want to keep this boat and make the changes, but I want to feel out all of the options before I decide. As always, thanks for the help!

Comanche3Six 11-27-2006 08:45 PM

Re: 45 Apache
 
Keep the Apache

CasinoRunner 11-27-2006 09:02 PM

Re: 45 Apache
 
Ask REDDEATH! :eek: :drink:



Seriously, keep the Apache and if possible buy a boat/cruiser with all the creature comforts that would make your family happy.

KIDDS 11-27-2006 09:40 PM

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Post Pics Maybe You'll Be Suprized,at The Feed Back What To Do.

purnell 11-28-2006 05:59 AM

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trade you for a 39

SinkorSwim 11-28-2006 07:12 AM

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I love your boat...

I didn't remember that it didn't have a cabin.... :eek:


Wow... I can fell you pain though... My family did persuade me into a boat with big cockpit and gen/AC...


If you can afford want you want and have the room to keep it, I say keep the Apache.. Its a beautiful boat and sadly to say the market is not very giving right now.

Many of the folks at LOTO keep a go fast at the dock along with a family cruiser... :drink:

Chris Sunkin 11-29-2006 08:38 AM

Re: 45 Apache
 
That 45 may be the most perfect Apache. It's certainly the rarest.

If it were mine, I don't know whay I'd regret more- parting with it or turning it into a pleasure cruiser. In reality, I can't imagine what you could do under that deck to make it "comfortable" like a Searay or the like. In the end, if the family wants comfort, I doubt you'll find it in that cabin.

WesSmith 11-29-2006 01:04 PM

Re: 45 Apache
 

Originally Posted by purnell
trade you for a 39

I have a nice 41 you might be interested in.... :D

Stormrider 11-29-2006 02:29 PM

Re: 45 Apache
 
40-45magnum. Big Diesels. Big $$.

Papache 11-29-2006 08:32 PM

Re: 45 Apache
 

Originally Posted by Hot Duck
As many of you already know I am debating between making some changes to the Apache or going with a different boat altogether. The rest of the family wants more creature comforts (more cockpit room, cabin, bathroom, etc) while I like the hardcore plain-jane boats. So the bottom line is that I either need to make some changes to this boat or find something else.

This is where you guys come in. I have been looking around at prices listed on other Apaches and they are all over the scale. I have a recent appraisal, but it is absolutely unrealistic as to what the market price or actual selling price of this boat may be. I need to know a good ballpark so that I can weigh my options and decide which is the best way to go. So, what price would you guys list this boat at or at what price would it sell? This is certainly not a sellers market right now, but I just need a good consensus on an actual market value. I really want to keep this boat and make the changes, but I want to feel out all of the options before I decide. As always, thanks for the help!

I will trade you to big blower motors for it worth $120,000. its worth what you payed for it. it was for sale for ever :D

Ike 11-30-2006 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Papache
I will trade you to big blower motors for it worth $120,000. its worth what you payed for it. it was for sale for ever :D

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

cougarman 11-30-2006 06:41 PM

Re: 45 Apache
 

Originally Posted by Papache
I will trade you to big blower motors for it worth $120,000. its worth what you payed for it. it was for sale for ever :D


The Difference is that Will put heart and Soul back into the boat a brought it back to life. Boat is priceless in the right hands !

Cougarman

nocigarette 11-30-2006 08:24 PM

Re: 45 Apache
 

Originally Posted by Papache
I will trade you to big blower motors for it worth $120,000. its worth what you payed for it. it was for sale for ever :D



MY HERO

Papache 11-30-2006 08:34 PM

Re: 45 Apache
 

Originally Posted by nocigarette
MY HERO

were is rat man your buddy

Papache 11-30-2006 08:40 PM

Re: 45 Apache
 

Originally Posted by cougarman
The Difference is that Will put heart and Soul back into the boat a brought it back to life. Boat is priceless in the right hands !

Cougarman

that boat needs three motors i know the boat better then him i was on it when it was apachekid in A.C.it is a big sled it need to be put back the way it was three 1000hp in it the boat ran 105 . the trailer he has is worth more then the boat

TeamSaris 11-30-2006 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Papache
were is rat man your buddy

Fixing crash boxes.........

J-Bonz 11-30-2006 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by fast fun 2
Fixing crash boxes.........

D'oh....................................

Papache 11-30-2006 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by fast fun 2
Fixing crash boxes.........

and his boats

offshoredrillin 12-01-2006 07:01 AM

Re: 45 Apache
 
Will call me later today...cell is 410-746-0020

cougarman 12-01-2006 07:21 AM

Re: 45 Apache
 

Originally Posted by Papache
that boat needs three motors i know the boat better then him i was on it when it was apachekid in A.C.it is a big sled it need to be put back the way it was three 1000hp in it the boat ran 105 . the trailer he has is worth more then the boat

The boat runs 88 to 92 pretty respectable for old school resin bucket. Anyways if he is happy that is all that matters.

How often do you just cruise around consistantly at 124 in yours?


Cougarman

Papache 12-01-2006 08:35 AM

Re: 45 Apache
 

Originally Posted by cougarman
The boat runs 88 to 92 pretty respectable for old school resin bucket. Anyways if he is happy that is all that matters.

How often do you just cruise around consistantly at 124 in yours?


Cougarman

once a year

ApacheCarl 12-01-2006 08:44 AM

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A 41 that runs 124 ???? LOL

cougarman 12-01-2006 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by ApacheCarl
A 41 that runs 124 ???? LOL

It does, ask him he'll tell ya he has the worlds fastest Apache !!! :rolleyes:


Cougarman

Chris Sunkin 12-01-2006 04:38 PM

Re: 45 Apache
 

Originally Posted by cougarman
The boat runs 88 to 92 pretty respectable for old school resin bucket. Anyways if he is happy that is all that matters.

How often do you just cruise around consistantly at 124 in yours?


Cougarman

You mean how often does the air hose get stuck on the pitot tube.

Papache 12-01-2006 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by cougarman
It does, ask him he'll tell ya he has the worlds fastest Apache !!! :rolleyes:


Cougarman

here are the 740 cdi 1500hp psi blower motors. you need these cougarman :D

cosmic12 12-01-2006 11:29 PM

Re: 45 Apache
 

Originally Posted by Chris Sunkin
You mean how often does the air hose get stuck on the pitot tube.

here we go it's winter and somebody said Apache :evilb:

BattleCry 12-02-2006 01:29 AM

Re: 45 Apache
 
The tall intercooler makes the engines look bigger meaner than they are. Remote mount intercoolers have been invented and don't take up that much hatch space. For the price that you want for those engines, I'll buy two BRAND NEW turbo engines from Brad Smith.

Hot Duck
That boat is a fine example of a nice Apache. It is the only 45 ever made. You shouldn't be scared to price it in between the 47's and 41's that are available. Remember, its yours and you can do with it what you want.

cougarman 12-02-2006 06:02 AM

Re: 45 Apache
 

Originally Posted by Papache
here are the 740 cdi 1500hp psi blower motors. you need these cougarman :D


I don't need to buy dreams and fantasies, I very capable of coming up with my own dreams at no cost. :drink: :D

But thanks for the smiles you bring to all of us with your remarkable achievements.

Cougarman

cougarman 12-03-2006 03:47 PM

Re: 45 Apache
 
You as well Ginger, Becare full this winter if you decide to go sledding again. :D :D

Cougarman

cuda 12-03-2006 08:17 PM

Re: 45 Apache
 
Does anyone have a picture of the 45?

38flatdeck 12-03-2006 08:50 PM

Re: 45 Apache
 

Originally Posted by Papache
here are the 740 cdi 1500hp psi blower motors. you need these cougarman :D

who built them?

Papache 12-03-2006 09:09 PM

Re: 45 Apache
 

Originally Posted by 38scarab
who built them?

sterling built the long blocks

Downtown42 12-04-2006 02:58 AM

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Originally Posted by cuda
Does anyone have a picture of the 45?

Cool boat...Hot Duck :cool:

Hot Duck 12-11-2006 12:40 PM

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I have not been back to check this thread in a while, but thank you all for the replies. After looking at some possibilities, the plan right now is to change this boat a little bit so that it fits the needs, but does not destroy the history or look of the boat. We are looking at moving the rear cockpit bulkhead back a little bit to get more room in the cockpit, adding a covergirl type cabin with enclosed head under the dash (where it is deep/tall enough to stand up) and either moving the front engine room bulkhead forward or staggering the engines to get more space in the engine room (easier to work on).

I want to make a few other changes that are mostly cosmetic. Other than the paint, the item that will change the boat the most is going back to the split Apache style engine hatches. This is what the boat had originally and it is what I want to put back on there. We can use these hatches and still leave a little room between them and the cockpit for a small sun pad.

I think that this will work out just fine. I have a quote from Guardado to do this work and I am in the process of getting a few more. I don't know if I can afford to have McManus do it, but I am gonna give him a call anyway, just to see. :D I want to get this work lined up for next fall (fall 07) so that we can start in October and have it finished and ready to go for the following summer. It is a lot of work, but it can be done in that time. Let's hope that we have a good summer this year so that I can pull this off! Anybody looking to visit OC this summer, click here to help pitch in on the Apache fund! :D Commander Hotel :p

baja27 01-13-2007 08:16 AM

Re: 45 Apache
 
Hey Hot Duck why are you selling that sweet boat. I thought you are going to make some changes on her?

Hot Duck 01-13-2007 08:46 AM

Re: 45 Apache
 
Just feeling out the waters. I tried to get a number here to see what the value was and I did not get an answer. So, I figured that I would list it to see if there was any interest. If it sells at or around that price I will buy a boat with what we need. If I don't get any bites then I will do the work to this boat. I have plenty of time to figure it out and see what happens because we would not tear into the Apache until after this coming summer anyway. No hurry, no rush. Like I said, just feeling things out a bit.

BRD 01-13-2007 08:59 AM

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Hey ..... can someone throw an ApacheKid pic up here on this thread ???

Hot Duck 01-13-2007 09:39 AM

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I will post what I have.

Hot Duck 01-13-2007 09:40 AM

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A few more.

Chris Sunkin 01-13-2007 09:59 AM

Re: 45 Apache
 

Originally Posted by Hot Duck (Post 1991973)
Just feeling out the waters. I tried to get a number here to see what the value was and I did not get an answer. So, I figured that I would list it to see if there was any interest. If it sells at or around that price I will buy a boat with what we need. If I don't get any bites then I will do the work to this boat. I have plenty of time to figure it out and see what happens because we would not tear into the Apache until after this coming summer anyway. No hurry, no rush. Like I said, just feeling things out a bit.

$225? WOW!

I've already been in touch with Satan but it seems my soul isn't worth quite what I thought. I'll see if I can scrape together the difference and will be in touch.


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