Thanks Ed,,,i like the ALLEZ VITE the best ,,but hell i would take all tree !!!:evilb::coolcowboy:

Here is a picture of my old style ,,and i do see some similarities ?!:party-smiley-004:

Just did not have enough green for the missing 9 feet. LOL

I MENTIONED A COMPARISON? I went directly off of your quoted statement. Please, feel free to refresh my memory!!! Apache's excellent safety record is tied, directly, to the fact that they have not put out that many boats in the last few years.

Without el indio's boat there wouldn't be a lot of funding for boat projects, in the early days, for Apache. There may not be any checkered flags for that white and red boat, but, there is a lot of history behind it. It is lightweight and able to hold a few tons of cargo. Old and tired? Maybe(I haven't looked at the structure of the boat). But one thing is for sure...he USES the boat and runs it frequently.

Nope, I don't see any mention of another powerboat company. My comments are focused on Mark McManus' powerboat building prowess. Also, now that you mention it, Apache does have an excellent safety record.

Scott
Allez Vite is a awesome Apache with a race history! Money is the key ingredient for any high end powerboat. I follow every Brinks truck I see hoping a large bagful of cash will fall out. LOL!
Enjoy this video of Allez Vite.
Ed

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pDV7vHF2G4

Oh Yeah!

AWSOME !!! i hope she is still dialed in like that !!!!

And if only 1 cig could run like that then they would be ok in my book !
But i guess thats only when they raced at 65-70 MPH back in the days,,,the cig's i mean.LOL:eek::grinser010:

Also the throttle man in the ALLEZ VITE,,i hope has learned how to do this better,,he missed allot. HEHE

we are not talking about that history, I don't know were I heard that there were many boats back then not just one.

I believe that Predator was a light layup, does anyone know for sure?

Here is a song for the old hay boats

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zAkq1OezI6g

And a good one too.

Transom was redone by MM before I sold it in 1994.

Warpath restored.....Wow!!!!!!!!!
pics from another site.

she's a beauty...There's something about Apache's but there's also something about this Warpath....

Oh Yeah!!!!!!!!
Tremendous Offshore Powerboat Race history!!

Some more of one of my favorite old school race Apache Powerboats. Flyin' Falcon!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I believe 950 Chiefs, long stagger and 6 drives on Flyin Falcon. Plus a race layup! Steve Nykamp would know.

Where is it now ?

Overseas. I remember when it was for sale in the OSO classifieds. I could not swing it...too much overhead ...... Mint shape!!!!!!!

I have seen a other black 41 called warpath ( i know ) ,,LOL ,,but it had big blower motors and #4's full staggered and is a race/poker run boat out of Luosiana.
He raced in BILOXI ( OSS ) this year ,,in march .
How many warpaths are there ? mmmhhh.:eek:

47 Patriot..... race layup ....triple Teague 1000's......#6SSM drives....for sale....as new!!!!!!!!

any pics?

The only one i have.

Hoggie?

WHO IS IT?

Could be ,the owner named it WARPATH ?!

I think thats just wrong ,,but he is a cool guy and the boat is actually nice ,but needs some work.:party-smiley-004:

Also the throttle man in the ALLEZ VITE,,i hope has learned how to do this better,,he missed allot. HEHE[/QUOTE]

You are correct!

Props were too small, and we were all over the rev-limiters.

With blower motors and Y-pipes, it sounds worse than it it really was. Lots of back-firing.

I found that the only way to be competitive was to run on the limiters, and be trimmed way out and loose.

It doesn't look/sound very good, and Bobby Saccenti would never run like that , but it seemed to work for us. Never blew a motor, and won some races. And never lost to BS or Reggie with identical power (Merc 1000 SC's).

In this video, we came in FIRST in the 1991 Worlds in Key West.

Pretty amazing for some mopes like us. After that race,MM aked us how we did, (he was in transit and didn't see it), and he thought we were kidding when we told him. Very unexpected

There are more videos I could post, but I'm embarrassed that we were on the limiters way too much. Doesn't sound as accomplished as I would like.

But who am I kidding? We were some total amatures who happened to have some good luck, and some great fun. We were nothing special, but we wouldn't trade our memories for anything.

The main thing to remember, is that Marc McManus built a GREAT boat when he built Allez Vite!

Ha! That's a great story. Looked like you guys were straight GETTIN' IT!:eek:

I've never seen that video before. Very cool. Gave me the chills.

You are correct!

Props were too small, and we were all over the rev-limiters.

With blower motors and Y-pipes, it sounds worse than it it really was. Lots of back-firing.

I found that the only way to be competitive was to run on the limiters, and be trimmed way out and loose.

It doesn't look/sound very good, and Bobby Saccenti would never run like that , but it seemed to work for us. Never blew a motor, and won some races. And never lost to BS or Reggie with identical power (Merc 1000 SC's).

In this video, we came in FIRST in the 1991 Worlds in Key West.

Pretty amazing for some mopes like us. After that race,MM aked us how we did, (he was in transit and didn't see it), and he thought we were kidding when we told him. Very unexpected

There are more videos I could post, but I'm embarrassed that we were on the limiters way too much. Doesn't sound as accomplished as I would like.

But who am I kidding? We were some total amatures who happened to have some good luck, and some great fun. We were nothing special, but we wouldn't trade our memories for anything.

The main thing to remember, is that Marc McManus built a GREAT boat when he built Allez Vite![/QUOTE]

So when are u going to bring it back to FL ,where it belongs and then i can meet u and maybe get a ride in my dream boat .
If i ever get the funds i defiantly going to buy it !!!!:party-smiley-004:

I love that boat,,and it actually looked good in the video,,it just sounded like u missed ! :eek:

Sorry

You know, after looking at the statement more closely, I realized that you didn't mention another boat company, DIRECTLY! What a TOOLBAG! An insinuation of another company or companies is a reference, nonetheless. Still, it is tough to have accidents or perceived risk when you produce very small numbers of product.

Say it how ever you would like, we all still got the point.

I, too, am still curious why you don't take your boat to Mr. McManus to have your boat redone. Since, you have every faith in his building prowess and seem to be the president of his fan-club. Why not take your most prized boating possession to the person who knows the most about it and will do the best job on redoing it?

Yawn

Allez Vite




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MApMLLc_HJ0

You are correct!

Props were too small, and we were all over the rev-limiters.

With blower motors and Y-pipes, it sounds worse than it it really was. Lots of back-firing.

I found that the only way to be competitive was to run on the limiters, and be trimmed way out and loose.

It doesn't look/sound very good, and Bobby Saccenti would never run like that , but it seemed to work for us. Never blew a motor, and won some races. And never lost to BS or Reggie with identical power (Merc 1000 SC's).

In this video, we came in FIRST in the 1991 Worlds in Key West.

Pretty amazing for some mopes like us. After that race,MM aked us how we did, (he was in transit and didn't see it), and he thought we were kidding when we told him. Very unexpected

There are more videos I could post, but I'm embarrassed that we were on the limiters way too much. Doesn't sound as accomplished as I would like.

But who am I kidding? We were some total amatures who happened to have some good luck, and some great fun. We were nothing special, but we wouldn't trade our memories for anything.

The main thing to remember, is that Marc McManus built a GREAT boat when he built Allez Vite![/QUOTE]

Great Story!! thanks for sharing! I just hope Steve doesnt part with her. It was great hearing him tel me the story about how he watched that boat roll in and out of the inlet until someday he bought it...... :)

Any idea when Skater raised the X up higher?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAeUqU5L6bo

NICE:eek:

That is some rough water! Watch Mr Terrible give that huge wave a blast at 2:10,
real Offshore racing there.
That Apache may currently be in NJ?
More video action!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Dk5ihhAw64

Skater didn't.

Everglades did.

Then Lake X added a 1" spacer, undoing some of the X dimension change.

MM redid the transom later.

Skater fixed a crack in the hull-side (after the Chicago OPTrace), and later redid the entire cockpit floor (after our Coco Beach "problem").

that's weird, the person I spoke to who worked at Skater during that time told me they did it.

What happened in Coco?

HI FRANK. TELL ME, WHEN YOU RAISED YOUR MOTORS DID THE HANDELING CHANGE. IF SO DO TELL. SEE YOU IN A FEW WEEKS. GETTING THE TRAILER ROAD READY AS WE SPEAK. MM.

Mark,,,are u going to be in Lauderdale next weekend ???
Or just down for the Bimini run ?

Scott

Would love to see your boat and meet u .:eek: