BEST POST I EVER READ ON THIS OR ANY SITE !!!!!!!!:ernaehrung004::flag:

Wow, an illiterate knob too. read the post numbnuts. I didnt call anyone, people called me laughing about you, and from what I was told, you were the only one that sat in a corner and didnt talk to anyone. so I guess that blows your theory on being the same in public. you should have been "staring into peoples souls with your piercing blue eyes" and trying to intimidate them. :rolleyes:

there is video on here from lake champlain to show that I am no different in person...

daredevil, you deserve someone like him to do this to...:asskiss:

Why are you still here Rob? Did you get your info about a great day at Kelley's from the same person that gave you the info about my good tank that I took a sawzall to?

Did you go boating today Rob?

And if you did, what boat did you go on?
Your 20 isn't finished and your Tiger has been sitting at a marina since last September with no drives on it.

What kind of whack job just keeps coming back to someone else's thread and posting crap?

I don't even need a working boat, Rob. I could be out every week if I had the time. But I want to finish mine up, so I will. And you can make random bullchit ill-informed comments. Why don't you start a thread about your boat and people can go there if they want. I wouldn't have started a thread about my boat, but once one was there... a couple of folks were curious what was up with it. You may not have that quite as much with Cigs... but with Apaches it happens a lot.

You have proved that you know nothing about my project and your crap is not welcome here. You have nothing to add to this thread. All you can do is bring together all the other people who are tired of your crap, and I would rather not have that on my thread. Have it on your own thread.

This is not the thread for your pant stained antics and skanky cell phone calls. But you just keep coming back.

What kind of whacko attempts to describe my reality from a thousand miles away?
You are a whackjob and an internent stalker, Rob.

Seek help. Maybe take some time and get your own boat running... eh? Take a step back from your obsession with me for a while? Huh?

What whacko stalks another guy's restoration thread?

yep I went boating, Tiger runs great, am heading out now, brought it back to take care of my dogs. Bill, myself and other friends will be out all weekend...keep trying the stalker thing, it validates you in your own mind... you're the one trying to prove a point, mine was made months ago.:cuqui:

oh and by the by douchebag, you say I pm people who was it that pmed Bill to tell him to "tell me to back off before it gets ugly"? get something straight, don't threaten my friends on my behalf, this is between you and I tough guy. Seems you're the one guilty of using pm's to get your way, i dont answer mine, my friends call. have fun in your delusional mind.

Yes, this is the post of a normal, well-adjusted person.

Whacko.

No, I never pm'd anybody regarding you. This is BS, just like your Bob Vila comment. Just like your comment that I cut out a bad tank. You are nothing but a BSr.
However... back before you and I had a disagreement, you used to send me pm's about who I should talk to and who I shouldn't. It was while I was reading one of your pm's telling me not to be friendly with Open72, that I realized what a pathetic grade-school whack job that you really were.

And tell your on the scene reporterette that I was actually sitting in the front, waterside corner where there is no wall.... which kind of makes it front and center. That was after I moved from the bar, which is where I was when your reportette offer us a sip of her promotional rum drink, which was refused on hygenic grounds.
Met a lot of nice people that day. Rode on some cool boats. Everybody on our boat (41 Apache) was an Apache owner. We ran with a 36 Apache and a 36 flatdeck Cig for miles as the helicopter snapped. I took some great pics, too.

I am sure that as a stalker, you would want to see them. You can view them at www.seriousoffshore.com. Please lurk though. The personal attack hijacks that you enjoy here are not welcome there, and people there are free to have threads that don't get trashed by the hooligans.

At some point, a normal person would let this go Rob.
How many pages of a restoration thread do you have to pee all over with your irrational resentment of a guy that you do not know?

lol as many as i need to to show everyone what a piece of dung you really are. As for Eric/ open 72. I only told you about him fleecing the members with the katrina fund... ask Chris if I was right or not..;)..so get your story straight there tough guy.:cool-smiley-027:

and you threatened Bill, telling him to have me back off or it will get ugly? and you call that normal? you're an f'ing douchebag.

and for the reporterette, he doesnt like you as much as me, and I'm sure he will let you know it. :D...so once again there sport, you better back off a certain girl that you keep refering too. because she has wayyy more friends on here that cant stand you other than myself. now, care to keep going after her and I will make it more personal. that is a threat, and it is in writing and I wont deny it one bit.

so douchebag keep it about you and I and quit dragging others in, because you have no legs to stand on.

As for serious, I talk with a few people but I like it better here now that you and a handful of others are gone, you stunk the place up with your incessant whining. so feel free to stay there.

Thanks. That made my day. I was afraid that you would come back to serious and cause more drama. Stay here. Heck, you can even have my thread.

And for your secret pvssy spy? You make my point for me. Rob and his kind are big tough guys on the internet, but when they are with you in person... all they do is secretly call each other like binches and secret talk about you (like binches).

If there was a man at the Casino who feels the way that you say, and he bothered to call you but not say a word to me, then you are either incorrect about the strength of his convictions or he is a pvssy. I seem to have been correct when I called him "she."
Let others speak for themselves if they have something to say. You look ridiculous trumping up anonymous support for your position.

The more you post here, the more people can see what you are all about.

Both of u ,,,,good morning !!! LOL


U all need to relax ,this is the APACHE section and not the u are the bad guy iam the good guy section. :cool:


By the way,,,does any one of u own a APACHE ???????

And please don't ask me ,,,u may be suprised.:eekdrop:

LATER

I think that I have an Apache laying around here somewhere.

Here are some great pictures from "the corner" of the Casino.

http://i422.photobucket.com/albums/p...r/PICT0609.jpg

Bob had a lame T shirt on, so we gave him a cool one. Tony was getting ready to pass out shots. I think that I had three before we jumped on Adam's boat for a trip across the bay.

http://i422.photobucket.com/albums/p...r/PICT0619.jpg

It was a great day. When we got back to Sandusky... Chris had my cams from Bob Madara and my heads from AFR.
Like Christmas, with boats.

Rob mentions that I "sat in the corner" as if I was separate from everyone else or something. The reality (always different from what Rob says) is that I was up front. The circle is where I was sitting "in the corner."

http://i422.photobucket.com/albums/p...zor/corner.jpg

As you can see from all of the BS that Rob has thrown around on this thread....If Rob is posting.... Rob is making stuff up.

NOW WAIT A MINUTE ,,,,,IF THE ONE WITH THE GREEN SHIRT IS U ,,,CAN WE MEET SOME WHERE ???? :ernaehrung004:

And all i am saying,,,is we all kind of know Rob,,,so no need to tell us what we already know. Nobody takes him siriuos exept himself.:eekdrop:

So no worrys. LOL

And if you did, what boat did you go on?
Your 20 isn't finished and your Tiger has been sitting at a marina since last September with no drives on it.



Rob was on the water with me this past weekend, we had a great time!!! and he had friends:cool-smiley-027:

Yep i can say Rob has some friends.

Yes he does Bobby, just glad to see all the B.S is over I guess!! I hate internet fighting and stupid talk, just get out and have fun boating!! Here I am on the Bay Sunday!!

Willy


http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/n...tuff/willy.jpg

nice pic of me!!! now stop putting your pics on a Apache restoration thread:drink:!!!! trouble maker:grinser010:

John it is time to add to this thread and get that great boat back in the water this year!! post some pics and info on what you have done and the great progress you have made!!

not worth it!

What good is a $15,000 paint touch up if the boat blows up?

There are cosmetic restorations, and then there are real restorations.

The rotten fuel fill tube that was leaking into the upper bilges.
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Taken from John's ( Fund Razors ) thread on SOS


Sorry John, I did not do a real resto!!!, I put a ton of money into that Apache John more than 15K. Hope you get it on the water this Summer, but it does not look like you will! I restored everything cosmetic on the boat I could the one year I owned it. Let me know how that REAL resto goes for you:drink: I never posted I did a full resto!! I just did what was post on here!

A bit off topic, but Tex is selling his boat on CL.

Is he moving up in size??

I don't know why, never converse w/ him.
But i found this during my random searches.
http://dallas.craigslist.org/ftw/boa/1785432659.html

Also, this 3man has come up again.
http://treasure.craigslist.org/boa/1791324549.html

I guess John( Fund Razor ) is mad at me, I just think that this resto should be finished!! I bought the boat, got ripped on the resto, and ran the boat twice before it blew and sold it. He sent me a nice PM on SOS after I sent him one. I am ready to be flamed John, bring it on it will get real interesting, hope there is no skeletons in your closet before you post a response! You will never get the boat done this year or next! You took a good boat and destroyed it! My thoughts! oh wait I better call Rob ( offshoredrilling ) before I post anything!! I guess because I cant quote post or PM's Im stupid, I overpaid on the resto, and did not do everything thst should have been done, but I did what could, if the motors would have not blown I still would have sold the boat, it was not me!! John is so good with words, I wish I was as good with words as him, by the way who paid for the motors that were built for you??? BTW John I do wish you the best getting the bost done!! I think if you post the info here you will get more response and continue the thread! on SOS there are 6 guys reading your thread, just trying to help out!


Here is the PM he sent me today!



I didn't mention you at all. No name, no screen name. I guess you feel stupid though, or you wouldn't have taken a factual post as a jab. A little hypersensitive are we?

My post was intended to save the life of the next wannabe restoration man. If I wanted to jab you... there is plenty to choose from. Don't even get me started. I have the boat and the receipts. I could do an entire "if you can't do your own work, for God's sake... at least don't let corvette guys rape you because you are so stupid" thread. Or maybe a "why some guys should just get a payment book and turn the key" thread.

But I didn't do that. I just said that there is a difference between a cosmetic and real restoration. Because there is. Just the facts. Just the fill line. No mention of you.

On the other hand, you mention me by name on OSO just cause you are pissed. Don't delete it. Leave it up. It is classic OSO bashing. Even wishing that another boater doesn't get his project finished. Yeah, that's classic. A guy comes dragging back his old thread about a boat he sold over a harmless post on a different site that he supposedly doesn't visit? And with that other deleted "not worth it" post behind it? Anybody who comes along will say "wtf is with this douchebag? I thought that he doesn't go to SOS?"

If you ever got into a pizzing match with me on the internet I would flame your azz up one side and down the other. Rob would have to ride to your rescue. You are not even equipped enough to quote somebody right. But I have given up pizzing matches with idiot douchebags with two digit IQs and no common sense. It only makes everybody look like a fool. Like your new post on OSO does.

I didn't post the thread on OSO about the boat, and I didn't post the thread on SOS. Patrick did. I don't give a phuck who reads about my boat. I bought the boat for me, not for a bunch of douchebags on the internet.

I haven't been posting because all it does is draw out douchebags who think that they have been wronged somehow.

I'd ask what the phuck Rob has to do with anything, but you are his puppy.

Suprised to see you on SOS, since it will give you herpes and everything.
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Come on Bill, Leave John alone. I'm sure the guy wants his boat finished more than anyone. Nothing more frustrating then to spend that kind of coin on a boat and still be stuck on the shore. I don't know you, I'm sure your a nice guy, but you come across as a real prick bashing John because his boat isn't finished.

Was wondering if anybody saw that. Its seriously for sale for $50K,:evilb: I'm kind of on the fence about selling it. I've always wanted a big yacht of my own. I think I could do much better once the economy comes around.

We had our first kid 4 months ago and I'm not getting to use the boat as much as I'd like. I've used it once this summer. I talked my mother in law into buying a houseboat and we have been using that quite a bit since its so hot and the baby girl can't be outside for long. Pretty neat boat, all aluminum hull, floors, roof, walls, etc, panoramic windows, and runs like 30mph. I've got a whole fleet of boats I'm driving now.

It's a little more than that Andy, douchebag was taking pot shots at Bill about the way he started the restoration, to Bill his first priority was to clean up the deck, guages and such. People have different ways to do things, It's just that the sanctimonious prick things that his way is the only way :rolleyes:, like fixing a gas tank that wasn't leaking, and ripping out the floor because he deems it "proper"... Just shows how much of a sphincter he really is, maybe he should call the guy that he got his engine parts from and find out how long it took his mentor sunkin to actually pay for them, find out who really financed it :eek:

It also goes back to when he bought the boat, he and his mentor were a total pain in the ass for picking it up because he didn't have a truck big enough to tow it. He is and always will be a sanctimonious pompous ass. The only thing that seperates him from Chris sunkin is the fact that he actually owns a boat...Friggin Tool :D

Yep, he was taking potshots at Bill and me for that matter. I've gotten over it. Ya'll should too.

What do you guys think my boat is worth?

The drives look kind of rough and their original. The upholstery is also original and has seen better days. Other then that its in great shape. Motors have 25 hours on them and the transom assemblies ony have around 100 hours on them (previous owner replaced).

He is a know it all tool, that think he is right on everything. He sound like another great know it all that started his own site!:grinser010: He is doing the perfect resto on the Apache!! It will be the best one on the trailer:drink:.

Quote from SOS by Fundrazor: Maybe the haters are just upset because I am so close to being done, and they are jealous. Not sure why they have to pee on everybody's fun all the time. It's always a war, always an enemy. Always someone to second guess and criticize. I am sick of it, and from what I can tell... most normal people are sick of it too.

They need a separate site for bashing people, so that the people who come for boats and friends can enjoy each other in peace.




No one is hatting John, I wish you the best with the boat, I just did not like the jabs you are throwing at me. Say what you want but you know what you are doing! Good luck with the boat and everything you have going for you! Hope to see it on the water soon and you:drink:

Very true post Rob!!!