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delsol 12-19-2008 08:41 AM

hot boat article on my 28
 
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Here is the article from the mag that Craig sent me (thanks again).
I pulled the 525sc's this spring and replaced with 588 NA's, also replaced the bravo's with xr's. Still working out the setup, have seen 84 mph but feel there should be more:drink:

delsol 12-19-2008 08:45 AM

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delsol 12-19-2008 08:57 AM

BTW--- I'd really appreciate any insight on props/hp for these higher hp boats, i had 32 bravos at the end of the summer, engines dynoed at 700 and change ea.

Thanks, Dave

BadMedicine 12-20-2008 10:20 AM


Originally Posted by delsol (Post 2762015)
Here is the article from the mag that Craig sent me (thanks again).
I pulled the 525sc's this spring and replaced with 588 NA's, also replaced the bravo's with xr's. Still working out the setup, have seen 84 mph but feel there should be more:drink:

Nice Ride!

delsol 12-21-2008 09:43 AM

Thanks, I'd like to hear what you're running for props and how the boat reacts. PM me or email at [email protected]
Thanks

ar15meister 01-13-2009 12:40 AM

hey delsol you aint ****ing around eh.... bring er to Toronto and lets run em out to hamilton bud:cool:

delsol 01-16-2009 08:43 AM

I wouldn't mind running it in Lake Ontario one of these days, a friend usually runs around St Catherines. Are there any good places to head to on the water, I'm kinda spoiled down here in Western Lake Erie.
Who knows maybe a poker run might be in order.

ar15meister 01-16-2009 02:56 PM

There is Port Credit but the marina is usually packed and tough to find a spot to dock to go in for beer.

Barangas on the Beach in Hamilton is my favourite spot. Nice looking girls usually and food is pretty good.

There is nothing in Downtown really. Tough to find docking, even at 'The Docks'the docking is beat up and I wouldnt put my boat there.

Kind of sucks there arent more boater friendly places in dtown.

I launch at Humber Bay and then usually run around the Toronto Islands.

Just steer clear of the gay nude beach on the west side of Toronto island....:eek:lol

Perlmudder 01-16-2009 03:07 PM


Originally Posted by ar15meister (Post 2779342)

Just steer clear of the gay nude beach on the west side of Toronto island....:eek:lol

ugh. when i was in grade 9, me and my brother and sister and brothers friend took his sailboat out and my sister said she had to go to the bathroom so we took the motor raft to shore and she used the washrooms at the nude beach. wow. some ugly mofos!

fund razor 03-05-2009 01:05 PM

Come on spring!!!

WMF 03-28-2009 09:15 PM


Originally Posted by fund razor (Post 2814833)
Come on spring!!!

Any updates John???

WMF 04-29-2009 08:38 AM

John you need to post some updates to keep this thread going!! it needs to be finished!! post some pics of the work you have done recently!!:drink:

fund razor 04-29-2009 03:04 PM

Hi Bill.
I will... I will...

Perfection takes time. :D

WMF 04-29-2009 09:21 PM

Ok John, get working:drink:

WMF 07-13-2009 08:44 AM

Be nice to have some updates posted on my old boat, like the gas tank removal and the other things you are doing

Panther 07-13-2009 08:49 AM


Originally Posted by WMF (Post 2908685)
Be nice to have some updates posted on my old boat, like the gas tank removal and the other things you are doing

He's posted updates and pictures over at the other place, it's getting closer.

TexomaPowerboater 07-13-2009 01:21 PM


Originally Posted by WMF (Post 2908685)
Be nice to have some updates posted on my old boat, like the gas tank removal and the other things you are doing

Oh yeah, didn't you bet me that this one would be done before mine...............so..........what did I win??:evilb:

fund razor 07-14-2009 06:23 AM


Originally Posted by TexomaPowerboater (Post 2908965)
Oh yeah, didn't you bet me that this one would be done before mine...............so..........what did I win??:evilb:

You won a non-restored boat. ;)

So often guys buy these boats and do a hurry up job on them. It's a shame, and why you don't see more true showpieces.

When you consider that all 1980s foam encapsulated tanks are corroding in place, I wouldn't want to have to wonder when it will start leaking. Maybe it won't be a serious hazard for another year or so. Maybe two?
How somebody could do new power in one of these, and then connect that power to a fuel tank of questionable condition and anything other than 100% new gas is beyond me. With power costing anywhere from $15k to 30k, and a new custom tank costing $1,300?

It's a great lesson that when you buy one of these boats, you should be ready to be patient and take it all the way down to the hull and back up.

A true restoration resets the clock on the boat, not just get it back on the water fast with unknown elements in place.

TexomaPowerboater 07-14-2009 09:02 AM

Oh, I see. My gas tank is bad because yours is:gfight:. The bet was who could have their engine's done and in the boat first. Nothing hurry up about it. A simple congrats would have sufficed.

fund razor 07-14-2009 09:54 AM


Originally Posted by TexomaPowerboater (Post 2909661)
Oh, I see. My gas tank is bad because yours is:gfight:.

No. The life expectancy of those tanks is 20 years. Less in salt water environments or if the boat was poorly covered. While aluminum tanks don't rust, they do corrode. Water from the deck gets into the sealed tank cell area through deck hatches and the tank cover and is trapped. Over time, It gets caught between the foam and the tank. Once it gets in, it can't get out due to the design.
In the abscence of air, this water causes galvanic corrosion. The inside of the tank looks fine, but the outside is a mess. Eventually a pinhole forms and fuel leaks out into the foam, and over time it breaks down the foam and seeps into the fir bulkhead behind the tank. This is happening with all boats constructed in this manner. It is just a matter of how much.

My point is not that your tank is bad because mine was. My point is that you have no idea whatsoever what is going on with your tank. You are at the limit of life expectancy on that tank. Now, you can run the boat many more years like that if you want.... and you can think about it each and every hit. But you just don't know what is going on down there. The last two owners of my boat had no idea what was going on below deck.

Lots of guys don't.

But I am doing a restoration, rather than a race to get it back on the water....so I need to know. :)

More information about this tank, and other items related to the re-restoration can be found at S eriousOffshore. :D

TexomaPowerboater 07-14-2009 10:06 AM

Lots to be said about storing a boat in dry storage, and not in your front yard........

I think the life expectancy of a transom is also around 20 years. I look forward to watching you replace that as well :lolhit:

Panther 07-14-2009 10:41 AM


Originally Posted by TexomaPowerboater (Post 2909661)
The bet was who could have their engine's done and in the boat first. Nothing hurry up about it. A simple congrats would have sufficed.

I don't know either one of you but here's how I see it... For whatever reason you both have been at odd's since you got these boats and are both passionate about them... (kind of reminds me of myself and Comanche3six). Unfortunately you have/had different ideas on approach, neither of which was wrong in my opinion.

So fast forward to now. You ask for a "simple congrats" (submission) but you insighted Fund by posting you were done first, problably knowing what he was up against with delays with parts and other "projects" that showed their weary head... It happens to all of us... :(

Also, I wouldn't have rubbed your nose in it when you had problems when you first got the boat...

Can't we all just get along.....:drink:


PS, I don't think I would give a congratulations to someone if they were rubbing my nose in it. :(

fund razor 07-14-2009 11:22 AM


Originally Posted by TexomaPowerboater (Post 2909725)
Lots to be said about storing a boat in dry storage, and not in your front yard.

Many people also have good luck with boat covers.


Originally Posted by TexomaPowerboater (Post 2909725)
I think the life expectancy of a transom is also around 20 years. I look forward to watching you replace that as well :lolhit:

The transom is a very different system than the tank. It is also much easier to inspect. Mine has checked out great. Along with your tank, you should have your transom checked.

Of course, you're running lower HP and in smaller water, so maybe it is not as important as it was for my project. For my complete restoration and custom repower, it was critical to really get down to the bones of the boat and bring everything back to perfect. I can't even imagine rolling the dice of some of these things... when you already have the power out. Makes no sense to try to sneak in a couple of extra weekends rather than do the whole job, and do it right.

Sick Stinger 07-14-2009 11:23 AM

Tex shut up you homo easy as that. Let the guy build his boat and you just slap some duct tape on yours.
Thankyou come again
-Mike

fund razor 07-14-2009 11:58 AM

The restoration continues. With tanks pics. Some chatter. :)

www.seriousoffshore.com

TexomaPowerboater 07-14-2009 12:48 PM

I wasn't the one who made the bet, I just won it. He didn't have problems with the gas tank until I was done, so it's irrelevant.

Panther - your right. So where were you when Fund was making fun of my boat calling it a crapache, crusty butt etc.:rolleyes: Doesn't suprise me that he is still at it. This notion that I didn't do this or that is BS. Prior to the gas leaking into the bilge :eek:Fund had no intentions of replacing that tank. Now that he has I guess I'm supposed too?????? Gimmie a fkn break. If I'd of wanted a perfect boat I would have bought a new one. And if something breaks I'll fix it.......that's boating.

TexomaPowerboater 07-14-2009 12:51 PM


Originally Posted by Sick Stinger (Post 2909801)
Tex shut up you homo easy as that. Let the guy build his boat and you just slap some duct tape on yours.
Thankyou come again
-Mike

:cuqui:

fund razor 07-14-2009 01:01 PM


Originally Posted by TexomaPowerboater (Post 2909869)
I wasn't the one who made the bet, I just won it. He didn't have problems with the gas tank until I was done, so it's irrelevant.

Panther - your right. So where were you when Fund was making fun of my boat calling it a crapache, crusty butt etc.:rolleyes: Doesn't suprise me that he is still at it. This notion that I didn't do this or that is BS. Prior to the gas leaking into the bilge :eek:Fund had no intentions of replacing that tank. Now that he has I guess I'm supposed too?????? Gimmie a fkn break. If I'd of wanted a perfect boat I would have bought a new one. And if something breaks I'll fix it.......that's boating.

So... who made the bet Nancy?

Bill? Cause I don't remember making the bet. I do remember remarking on what a crusty butt your boat had.

You would be amazed at how long the turnaround time on high-quality engine parts is. I mean, if you ever build some high quality engines.

Maybe in a few years, when you have to replace the tank. ;)

WMF 07-14-2009 01:26 PM


Originally Posted by TexomaPowerboater (Post 2908965)
Oh yeah, didn't you bet me that this one would be done before mine...............so..........what did I win??:evilb:

A ride in my boat:evilb It is great to this Thread is alive and well!!! I also dont rember any bet??

TexomaPowerboater 07-14-2009 01:44 PM


Originally Posted by fund razor (Post 2909876)
So... who made the bet Nancy?

i WAS quoting Bill........


Originally Posted by fund razor (Post 2909876)

You would be amazed at how long the turnaround time on high-quality engine parts is. I mean, if you ever build some high quality engines.

Let me guess.........six months. :bsflag:

TexomaPowerboater 07-14-2009 01:48 PM


Originally Posted by WMF (Post 2909897)
A ride in my boat:evilb It is great to this Thread is alive and well!!! I also dont rember any bet??

That would be better than a slap in the face.

You made the bet on my thread, but then you deleted it after your "episode"

Panther 07-14-2009 02:00 PM


Originally Posted by Panther (Post 2909751)
Also, I wouldn't have rubbed your nose in it when you had problems when you first got the boat...


Originally Posted by TexomaPowerboater (Post 2909869)
Panther - your right. So where were you when Fund was making fun of my boat calling it a crapache, crusty butt etc.:rolleyes:

Re-read what I wrote above.....

Have a good one......

Chris Sunkin 07-14-2009 02:07 PM


Originally Posted by Sick Stinger (Post 2909801)
Tex shut up you homo easy as that. Let the guy build his boat and you just slap some duct tape on yours.
Thankyou come again
-Mike


That deserves a free t-shirt. Come & see me :)

WMF 07-14-2009 02:32 PM


Originally Posted by TexomaPowerboater (Post 2909926)
That would be better than a slap in the face.

You made the bet on my thread, but then you deleted it after your "episode"

Yes I may have said that!! really dont rember said alot of stupid things:drink: over the years

fund razor 07-14-2009 02:45 PM


Originally Posted by Chris Sunkin (Post 2909940)
That deserves a free t-shirt. Come & see me :)

Andy should get a free T shirt too. After all, he won the bet with Bill. :)

fund razor 07-14-2009 02:49 PM


Originally Posted by WMF (Post 2909961)
Yes I may have said that!! really dont rember said alot of stupid things:drink: over the years

You should get a T shirt for not blowing up on your last boat. :D
Actually, I have been thankful that you didn't find it the hard way. There is no question that it was bad for years. If I hadn't dried the bilge completely for paint... I would have never found it. I don't think that Aaron knew either.

fund razor 07-14-2009 02:51 PM

Don't take those old tanks for granted guys. Even if Tex is willing to wait and see what happens.

You can have them pressure checked.

fund razor 07-14-2009 02:53 PM

Panther needs a T shirt for being a peacemaker. :)

WMF 07-14-2009 03:10 PM


Originally Posted by fund razor (Post 2909974)
You should get a T shirt for not blowing up on your last boat. :D
Actually, I have been thankful that you didn't find it the hard way. There is no question that it was bad for years. If I hadn't dried the bilge completely for paint... I would have never found it. I don't think that Aaron knew either.

Already have one John, so does my son, but Thanks!! You have no Idea how much your boat pi@# me off last summer!!

TexomaPowerboater 07-14-2009 03:25 PM


Originally Posted by fund razor (Post 2909978)
Don't take those old tanks for granted guys. Even if Tex is willing to wait and see what happens.

You can have them pressure checked.

I like the fundy test better. Didn't see any gas in the bilge.:lolhit:

I'll have it pressure checked.

Before you drop the motors in make sure and do a water test with the drives on to make sure the drives/transom assemblies aren't leaking.


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