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ApachePete 07-10-2008 10:33 AM

Allez Vite
 
Steve, is she running yet?

ApachePete 07-13-2008 11:16 AM

ttt

mrhorsepower1 07-13-2008 11:43 AM

It should be getting close. The engines came out outstanding! I can't wait to see her run. It was a MAJOR face lift !:drink::cool:

J-Bonz 07-13-2008 09:36 PM

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Lunatic Fringe 07-13-2008 09:50 PM

Hey I think that is my cooler!!!! : )

ApachePete 07-14-2008 10:25 AM

When?

The boating season is already half over.

Nykamp 07-14-2008 09:28 PM

Pete,
The boat will not be on the water this year again. We just got the motors back 3 weeks ago. Steve doesn't have access to his computer right now, but I'm sure he'd love to talk to you. Let me know if you need his number.
Krista

FountainMike 07-15-2008 08:56 AM

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Too bad the boat won't be in the water this year. Beautiful boat and congratulations. I remember when it was on the cover of the Apache brochure.

J-Bonz 07-15-2008 07:10 PM


Originally Posted by Nykamp (Post 2623407)
Pete,
The boat will not be on the water this year again. We just got the motors back 3 weeks ago. Steve doesn't have access to his computer right now, but I'm sure he'd love to talk to you. Let me know if you need his number.
Krista

Sorry to here that for you two.........................
Jr.

Nykamp 07-15-2008 07:53 PM

It's a disappointment, but unfortunately we didn't get the motors back in time to put the boat together for the run in Ohio or for the Boyne thunder run, and we are living in South Carolina now so it's a little bit over kill for Lake Hartwell and like Pete said since the season is already half over, she's going to have to sit out yet another season.
Krista

ApachePete 07-16-2008 10:45 AM

South Carolina?

So you're not in Grand Haven any more?

Where is the boat?

Will you keep it?

I WANT A RIDE! :cool::cool:

mrhorsepower1 07-16-2008 08:08 PM

All good things take time and unfortunately the engines needed a bunch of upgrades and sorting out . Other things still need addressed with the fuel delivery in the boat. It's better to do it right, like Steve did then throw away a bunch of LONG hours and money out the window just to do it all over again. The engines still have a ton of potential , seeing how they made just under 1000 HP with old 850 Holley carbs!! She's gonna be bad azz!:drink::cool:

SKRAMER 07-17-2008 01:18 PM

I'm very sad to hear this. I was so looking forward to seeing you guys in Ohio this year for the weiner roast. But when that didn't happen I was still hoping you would get the engine back in time to run the boat this year.

JB4Boyne 07-18-2008 12:15 AM


Originally Posted by Nykamp (Post 2624722)
It's a disappointment, but unfortunately we didn't get the motors back in time to put the boat together for the run in Ohio or for the Boyne thunder run, and we are living in South Carolina now so it's a little bit over kill for Lake Hartwell and like Pete said since the season is already half over, she's going to have to sit out yet another season.
Krista

Krista,
You can always ride with me when your up this way:drink:
Heck, I'll even let ya bring Steve:p

ondawater 07-19-2008 10:49 PM

Allez Vite for sale?

Just saw it on the McManus webpage, say it isn't so!!!

SKRAMER 07-20-2008 09:23 AM


Originally Posted by ondawater (Post 2628912)
Allez Vite for sale?

Just saw it on the McManus webpage, say it isn't so!!!

Sad!!!

ApachePete 07-20-2008 11:03 AM

Awww.

But why no power, if the motors are finished?

Ziploc 07-20-2008 05:50 PM


Originally Posted by mrhorsepower1 (Post 2625980)
All good things take time and unfortunately the engines needed a bunch of upgrades and sorting out . Other things still need addressed with the fuel delivery in the boat. It's better to do it right, like Steve did then throw away a bunch of LONG hours and money out the window just to do it all over again. The engines still have a ton of potential , seeing how they made just under 1000 HP with old 850 Holley carbs!! She's gonna be bad azz!:drink::cool:

Why does it take so long to build a pair of engines, looks like over a year to me. That would make me want to sell my boat too!!! Hope Steve can get the passion back!

Lunatic Fringe 07-21-2008 12:30 AM

"All good things take time " In this case Dean let's not confuse taking time to do it right, and taking your time.

spazboz 07-21-2008 11:56 AM

Last I talked to Steve, I thought he said he was looking for a big Center Console. I just thought it was the Booze talking.....:eek:

SKRAMER 07-21-2008 12:29 PM


Originally Posted by Ziploc (Post 2629221)
Why does it take so long to build a pair of engines, looks like over a year to me. That would make me want to sell my boat too!!! Hope Steve can get the passion back!

I was wondering the same thing. Hope he changes his mind.

ApacheCarl 07-21-2008 01:47 PM


Originally Posted by Ziploc (Post 2629221)
Why does it take so long to build a pair of engines, looks like over a year to me. That would make me want to sell my boat too!!! Hope Steve can get the passion back!

DING DING DING............... We have a winner !!!!!!!!!!

After one year, I wouldn't let this engine builder change my oil. Thats just me, I'm a demanding little jerk.

Queenie 07-21-2008 03:19 PM


Originally Posted by ApacheCarl (Post 2630089)
DING DING DING............... We have a winner !!!!!!!!!!

After one year, I wouldn't let this engine builder change my oil. Thats just me, I'm a demanding little jerk.

I wouldn't say anyone is demanding for wanting their motors back loooooooooong before a year is up. But that's just me and being a woman, according to some, I may not know what I'm talking about. :party-smiley-004:

SKRAMER 07-21-2008 03:40 PM


Originally Posted by ChiefApache89 (Post 2630206)
I wouldn't say anyone is demanding for wanting their motors back loooooooooong before a year is up. But that's just me and being a woman, according to some, I may not know what I'm talking about. :party-smiley-004:

I think a year for two engine is way out of line. Just my .02

Lunatic Fringe 07-22-2008 01:29 PM

Carl,
Don't sell youself short, your a tremendous jerk. But that has nothing to do with wanting a set of motors tuned around in a reasonable time. Ha ha ha ha Warhawk going to be on the water this weekend? Or are you coming North for a slow and easy ride in the woodie?

SKRAMER,
Yup, way out of line. And for the record it was 16 months not 12.

el indio 07-22-2008 02:29 PM


Originally Posted by SKRAMER (Post 2630248)
I think a year for two engine is way out of line. Just my .02

YOU GOTTER!!!!!!!!!!!

mrhorsepower1 07-22-2008 03:15 PM

The list is too long for me to begin........why so long. For one I suppose I should start with why would an engine builder put connecting rods back in an engine after they are in a blow up and have pepper marks all over them. We did over $4500.00 worth of labor and extras for Steve to help save him money and do the job correctly. There are 3 sides to every story and it's unfortunate some people have blinders on and can't see or appreciate a good job!! I want to see this thing run more than anyone out there!! I think it will shock ya!! I really hope she goes back together, I even offered to go up and help.

el indio 07-22-2008 05:42 PM

BOTTOM LINE........steve aint and hasnt been boating for awhile....no matter who is at fault the clock is ticking.......be it rolex or timex time is moving and the boat aint.....the answer is......... spare power from the propnut to the waterpump....no rush at rebuild time.....300 hours works for me...then change power....or you are at the mercy of whomever.....this aint ribble...50 years exp...cya....

BobbyB 07-22-2008 09:55 PM

I have seen the motors and they look bad azz.

Full Force 07-22-2008 10:59 PM


Originally Posted by SKRAMER (Post 2630248)
I think a year for two engine is way out of line. Just my .02

I Agree

el indio 07-22-2008 11:43 PM


Originally Posted by BobbyB (Post 2631955)
I have seen the motors and they look bad azz.

butttttt will they run as good as they look???????????

Ziploc 07-23-2008 06:13 AM


Originally Posted by mrhorsepower1 (Post 2631477)
The list is too long for me to begin........why so long. For one I suppose I should start with why would an engine builder put connecting rods back in an engine after they are in a blow up and have pepper marks all over them. We did over $4500.00 worth of labor and extras for Steve to help save him money and do the job correctly. There are 3 sides to every story and it's unfortunate some people have blinders on and can't see or appreciate a good job!! I want to see this thing run more than anyone out there!! I think it will shock ya!! I really hope she goes back together, I even offered to go up and help.

Maybe you should have just told Steve it was going to take you 16 months to build his engine. Then he could have taken them to someone else? Problem solved. I guess it doen't matter now. The damage is done.

BobbyB 07-23-2008 07:00 AM


Originally Posted by el indio (Post 2632035)
butttttt will they run as good as they look???????????

I am sure they will:ernaehrung004:

Lunatic Fringe 07-23-2008 10:04 AM


Originally Posted by mrhorsepower1 (Post 2631477)
The list is too long for me to begin........why so long. For one I suppose I should start with why would an engine builder put connecting rods back in an engine after they are in a blow up and have pepper marks all over them. We did over $4500.00 worth of labor and extras for Steve to help save him money and do the job correctly. There are 3 sides to every story and it's unfortunate some people have blinders on and can't see or appreciate a good job!! I want to see this thing run more than anyone out there!! I think it will shock ya!! I really hope she goes back together, I even offered to go up and help.

Alright, let's start at the top.
"The list is too long for me to begin........why so long." Even if that list starts with mining the raw materials from the ground with hand tools for all the new parts and transporting it to the foundry with a horse drawn wagon for forging, 16 months is still BS.

Let's stick with your question format. How about this one? Why would an engine builder disassemble a set of motors with connecting rods that had "pepper marks all over them" and put them on the shelf and wait until the assembly process to determine they needed to be replaced, stalling the build for 3 months? Anybody.....Anybody? Bueller..... Bueller?

"We did over $4500.00 worth of labor and extras for Steve " I can't speak for Steve, but if I'm given the option of 1) getting $4500 of free labor and extras on a build and sitting out two seasons or 2) paying the $4500 and getting my motors when they were promised, I'm going for door number 2!!

"it's unfortunate some people have blinders on and can't see or appreciate a good job!! " Blinders? Nope, no blinders here. We just understand what it takes to do a good job and have seen it done before with other builders. What we don't appreciate is someone pissing on our head and telling us it's raining.

Tonto 07-23-2008 10:05 AM

PEEP

ApachePete 07-23-2008 10:10 AM

It's a shame that a great guy got totally hosed-over by this Bozo. :mad:

Scarab3DMC 07-23-2008 10:12 AM


Originally Posted by SKRAMER (Post 2630248)
I think a year for two engine is way out of line. Just my .02

WHAT YOU TALKIN TO ME ??? ..I am not commenting !!:food-smiley-007::food-smiley-007::ernaehrung004:

SKRAMER 07-23-2008 11:06 AM


Originally Posted by Scarab3DMC (Post 2632338)
WHAT YOU TALKIN TO ME ??? ..I am not commenting !!:food-smiley-007::food-smiley-007::ernaehrung004:

NO Kidding. Sorry to open the wound!!

ApacheCarl 07-23-2008 11:18 AM


Originally Posted by ApachePete (Post 2632336)
It's a shame that a great guy got totally hosed-over by this Bozo. :mad:

You hit the nail on the head Pete. This guy really screwed over Steve. Gellner joins the long list of half-assed engine builders in this world.

el indio 07-23-2008 11:23 AM


Originally Posted by ApachePete (Post 2632336)
It's a shame that a great guy got totally hosed-over by this Bozo. :mad:

were they not zull motors...


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