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Old 08-04-2010, 08:23 PM
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What are the prose & cons of purchasing the "No Reservation" Apache? Boat looks great and Sterling has a pair of 900's that would potentially provide adequate power. Any comments are appreciated. Owned a 30' Phantom so this is a major upgrade.
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What is the claimed top speed, what drives. Just picked up my 41' this year.
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To me it looks like the previous owner did a nice restoration on the boat and spend a lot of money... I've never seen it in person but it looks like a nice piece.

The con could the #3 drives on 900hp, they are only rated for 750hp and can go higher but the drives aren't in production any more.

I thought the owner was doing a #6 conversion, was it ever completed?
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Still has #3- good call D'Anniabelle said the same about #3's includinf serviceabliity. Trying to confirm complete restoration prior to trip to OK. What power do I need to push over 100 MPH?
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Originally Posted by Oceans15
Still has #3- good call D'Anniabelle said the same about #3's includinf serviceabliity. Trying to confirm complete restoration prior to trip to OK. What power do I need to push over 100 MPH?
a LOT. I have been in a 41 with 800+ and it moved but wasnt threatening 100. Im not the one with the answers but Im bettingit will take 6's and at least 1000 hp aside. If you want to go 80 in a hurricane, a 41 is the boat for it, if you want to run over 100 all the time there are better options.

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What power do I need to push over 100 MPH?
This could get interesting ......
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Originally Posted by Oceans15
Owned a 30' Phantom so this is a major upgrade.
Sorry for the hijack, noticed you were from MI and owned a 30' phantom. Which one did you own? Not too many total and thought i was the only one in MI with one

If you need some power options let me know.
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Originally Posted by Oceans15
Still has #3- good call D'Anniabelle said the same about #3's includinf serviceabliity. Trying to confirm complete restoration prior to trip to OK. What power do I need to push over 100 MPH?
It's a full pleasure version so it's probably heavy, gonna take a lot I would think.

There are a few out there that are fast with moderate power.. For instance Dr Gary's is a light one with no cabin and runs mid 80's with 750's (merc 800s). The old starchaser which is also a light, no cabin, runs over 100mph with something like 900 hp.

I've seen some pleasure versions run low 80's with 850's while others claim 100 mph with 900's but I doubt it severly. The pleasure version weights are all over, 13K - 15K from what I've heard...

My boat is 36', is a pleasure and weighs 10,500, runs just under 90 mph with 800's for comparison.

My honest opinion is if you wanna go 100mph in an 41' just get a 3/6 man, race lay-up with 1000's.

Stinson knows more than I do.

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With my limited experience in our boat, these 41's were designed to run an honest and strong 85 mph all day long. I would recommend a new technology boat with less horsepower which will keep the reliability up compared to 1000hp motors (time bombs)
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the Phantom was a 30' Will Smith enclosed canopy - race layup.
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