36 37 Stepped Warrior
01-29-2014, 07:54 PM
#31
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Never heard why, we ran down to Key west next to the staggered one and it looked like it ran out nice with the steps. There's one in NJ, or NY that they used to call the John Deere 36, it the one that went way up on land years ago. I think it's twin step, with 500's.
01-29-2014, 08:16 PM
#33
Geronimo36
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Yes, your right thats it. I dont know if he is on OSO but he is "our" type of guy... 3-4 years ago I lived just north from him and one afternoon I swear he must have had a party and was giving rides. He went from his house to Linton bridge and back 10+ times WFO & ballsout on a weekend afternoon. This may not sound like a big deal but the intercoastal is about 60 yards wide there and there are houses along both sides. The sound echoes between the houses. I just sat there and drank beer LOVING it. The neighbors - yeah... not so much.
Next time I am out on the boat I will run by there again. If it is there I will check for steps. Pretty sure it was straight bottom.
Next time I am out on the boat I will run by there again. If it is there I will check for steps. Pretty sure it was straight bottom.
01-29-2014, 10:51 PM
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01-30-2014, 10:32 AM
#36
It is now "War Chief" in Long Island.
01-30-2014, 06:58 PM
#37
Just offf the phone with "The Man' him self about these twin steps. There was 6-7 built. More TS tghen Single steps. The singles just didnt perform, he wanted to try it (paraphasing) and there was no gain so it went out the window. As stated earlier ventalation holes were also tried that was also a no gain no loss so pluged up.
The build , lay up, schedule ect is that of his own and that of the orginal 36, which were the effect of blockinh the 41 down to compete with a 35 cafe racer/38 top gun. He wanted to have a boat in that class size. The 28 , side not, was a cut down 36, again for that smaller crowd, so all derving from the 41.
The boat was tested, F2 that is, with a very light lay up and the twin steps with 500s and they ran 86/87.
The full cabin pleasure boats ran 84 with the HP500 or 500 EFI.
Also as stated before the boat handles that of a straight bottom, per Mr. Saccenti actually better then a staright bottom with no ill handing, or surprise reactions to any of the conditions. But this had the speed gains as you would exspect that of a stepped boat should.
Rought water ride is also rite there with the original 36 boats but with a lighter lay up and and moddified CG so the boat flys as it should.
Molds were cut up, and i mean cut up by hand by Bob destroyed and thats was the last of it. There was a falling out between Bob and the other gentalman of Newtech.
Bob as we all know is in a new veture at Cheif powerboats. And i was told that the 42 Chief is all the of a 41 Apache but with the new tech. of today and is just and over all great product due to all the time effort and R&D put into the Cheif boats.
I thank Mr. Saccenti for taking the time to speak with me and what I was lucky enought to get due to a close frien. I hope this info helps other with the history of Apache.
-Mike
The build , lay up, schedule ect is that of his own and that of the orginal 36, which were the effect of blockinh the 41 down to compete with a 35 cafe racer/38 top gun. He wanted to have a boat in that class size. The 28 , side not, was a cut down 36, again for that smaller crowd, so all derving from the 41.
The boat was tested, F2 that is, with a very light lay up and the twin steps with 500s and they ran 86/87.
The full cabin pleasure boats ran 84 with the HP500 or 500 EFI.
Also as stated before the boat handles that of a straight bottom, per Mr. Saccenti actually better then a staright bottom with no ill handing, or surprise reactions to any of the conditions. But this had the speed gains as you would exspect that of a stepped boat should.
Rought water ride is also rite there with the original 36 boats but with a lighter lay up and and moddified CG so the boat flys as it should.
Molds were cut up, and i mean cut up by hand by Bob destroyed and thats was the last of it. There was a falling out between Bob and the other gentalman of Newtech.
Bob as we all know is in a new veture at Cheif powerboats. And i was told that the 42 Chief is all the of a 41 Apache but with the new tech. of today and is just and over all great product due to all the time effort and R&D put into the Cheif boats.
I thank Mr. Saccenti for taking the time to speak with me and what I was lucky enought to get due to a close frien. I hope this info helps other with the history of Apache.
-Mike
