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smokin' joe 01-04-2009 10:19 PM


Originally Posted by TEAMBAJA (Post 2768331)

Baja cat was built by Ocean Express in Algonac, MI

X-Driver 01-05-2009 11:06 AM

I believe the other Baja factory was in Mabach, TX.

Dock Holiday 01-08-2009 01:17 PM


Originally Posted by smokin' joe (Post 2770744)
Baja cat was built by Ocean Express in Algonac, MI

Is it by any chance the ChrisCat (Chriscraft) also?

They all look very similiar.

Dock Holiday 01-08-2009 01:25 PM


Originally Posted by X-Driver (Post 2770963)
I believe the other Baja factory was in Mabach, TX.

Mabank, Texas

See the article in post #160

JaayTeee 01-15-2009 06:52 PM

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scanned some old brochures

cat

JaayTeee 01-15-2009 06:59 PM

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out of the 93" brochure
renegade

JaayTeee 01-15-2009 07:00 PM

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Dave, are you in this pic ?

smokin' joe 01-15-2009 11:38 PM


Originally Posted by Dock Holiday (Post 2773507)
Is it by any chance the ChrisCat (Chriscraft) also?

They all look very similiar.

Chris cats are a little smaller than Baja cat by Ocean Express. I believe Chris Craft made all the Chris cats, but they all had the same 1980's similarities...

firehill19 01-16-2009 07:42 AM

1991 Baja 260 CD
Ok, not the smoothest riding in rough water because of the 21 deg deadrise, but the room in the cockpit is awesome. Bought mine in 1996 with 212 hrs and its still the only Baja i've owned. Just can't get rid of it.....

Dock Holiday 01-16-2009 11:11 AM


Originally Posted by firehill19 (Post 2779049)
1991 Baja 260 CD
Ok, not the smoothest riding in rough water because of the 21 deg deadrise, but the room in the cockpit is awesome. Bought mine in 1996 with 212 hrs and its still the only Baja i've owned. Just can't get rid of it.....

Keith,

You have a very nice boat that is in great condition. Yes the cockpit is super sized. I thought there was a picture of six of us on your boat going over to Johnny Finns but I cannot find it. I'll check at home tonight and post it.

Thanks again for the ride it was a good time and a great memory!

Doc

XT-Innovator 01-16-2009 02:49 PM


Originally Posted by JaayTeee (Post 2778769)
Dave, are you in this pic ?

No, that was all production line workers that were in the photo. No office people at all....

Dock Holiday 02-02-2009 08:19 AM

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Thanks to Haulin Vols I have some new information on the B36 race boat.

I sure wish this was in the budget!

http://www.yachtworld.com/core/listi...g_id=1939&url=

36' Baja Poker Run Special!
• Year: 1998
• Current Price: US$ 99,900
• Located in Dallas, TX
• Hull Material: Fiberglass
• Engine/Fuel Type: Twin Gas
• YW# 1939-1619560
Baja Custom POKER RUN B-36

Race Fairing
Bolster Seating
Fresh Twin 750hp's ,Staggard set up, non blower
Mercruiser number four speedmaster drives
Custom Graphics
Custom Hull layup for heavy rough conditions Interesting Trades Welcome, Delivery available Worldwide, Financing arranged!
Bullet proof, safe, reliable
Best of Equipment
Call for all the details on this One of a Kind Baja!

Contact Sittel Marine.
1510 Mistywood Lane
Denton, TX 76201 USA
Toll-free 888-208-8382
Tel 214-213-7197
Fax
Other www.sittelmarine.com

Dock Holiday 02-02-2009 08:21 AM

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The would be the ultimate Poker Run Baja behind the 420 APBA boat.

Dock Holiday 02-02-2009 08:25 AM

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I was told by a good friend that ran across this boat last year that it could have been bought for a lot less than this advertised price.

It will make a very nice boat for someone. I hope it finds a good home and we get to see it on the water.

I would like to have a picture of my boat next to it.:D

Dock Holiday 02-06-2009 12:22 PM

Well I just learned some very interesting information about B-36.

The legend himself "Craig Barry" built some engines for this boat and also assisted in dialing the boat in and actually throttled this boat in a race.

If you know Craig you know that is pretty cool.

Dock Holiday 03-04-2009 10:09 AM

TTT

Does anyone have any documented speed numbers on the fastest Baja 36 Outlaw to date?

I know of two local ones that ran between 92 and 94 MPH per the owners and I have heard mixed reports about the actual speed of the 36 built with 900's and #6 drives. Seems it was very tail heavy and while some say it did see triple digits others say it did not.

We are still in the dialing in stage but I am looking at what that magic number is that would put "Dock Holiday" on top.

Testing this Saturday on LKN.

JaayTeee 03-04-2009 05:28 PM

I don't know, but I'd say if the B-36 boat
had a little more steam in it, it would run 100.

Do you know what the side by side # 5 SSM
36's are running ?....I think there's a couple of those
around.....SSM boats usually have pretty healthy power
in them.

Dock Holiday 03-08-2009 10:25 PM


Originally Posted by JaayTeee (Post 2814167)
I don't know, but I'd say if the B-36 boat
had a little more steam in it, it would run 100.

Do you know what the side by side # 5 SSM
36's are running ?....I think there's a couple of those
around.....SSM boats usually have pretty healthy power
in them.

One side by side 36 with #5's and 850 Tyler Crockett's runs low 90's according to the owner but I have never seen him run it hard.

I can tell you that with my experience it is going to take a LOT more than 824 HP per side to get there.

With the HP the #6 drives rob I do not believe the 900 HP Merc #6 boat got there either.

Fixxxer22 03-12-2009 07:56 PM


Originally Posted by JaayTeee (Post 1895347)
Ohio....Idaho.....Iowa... we get that all the time ;)

It's in Low Moor Iowa :D

low moor is where i store my boat!

thisistank 03-13-2009 01:39 AM

The 36 race boat looks rode hard and put away wet!! Needs some TLC but would be an awesome project for someone...Still love the stepped 42 the best though!!:drink: And still waiting for pics of it running lately. I would imagine the cameras are snappin' when that thing is on the water. Where's the pics!?

thisistank 03-13-2009 01:43 AM


Originally Posted by Dock Holiday (Post 2794418)
Well I just learned some very interesting information about B-36.

The legend himself "Craig Barry" built some engines for this boat and also assisted in dialing the boat in and actually throttled this boat in a race.

If you know Craig you know that is pretty cool.

Craig actually owned Hawk Marine for many years around the time he owned Cig....Those are his motors in the 36. Considering the 36 Baja was reportidly splashed from a 36 Cigarette Mistress mold...Kind've a small world eh?

Dock Holiday 03-17-2009 11:32 AM


Originally Posted by thisistank (Post 2820254)
Craig actually owned Hawk Marine for many years around the time he owned Cig....Those are his motors in the 36. Considering the 36 Baja was reportidly splashed from a 36 Cigarette Mistress mold...Kind've a small world eh?

Yes a very small world.

Thanks Tank

Tristar Racing 03-17-2009 11:37 AM


Originally Posted by thisistank (Post 2820254)
Craig actually owned Hawk Marine for many years around the time he owned Cig....Those are his motors in the 36. Considering the 36 Baja was reportidly splashed from a 36 Cigarette Mistress mold...Kind've a small world eh?

I thought the 36 was made with molds that Baja bought from Cig?

Dock Holiday 03-17-2009 12:07 PM


Originally Posted by Tristar Racing (Post 2823089)
I thought the 36 was made with molds that Baja bought from Cig?

Cig built the original mold.

Cig did not really do anything with it from what I have learned.

Cig sold the mold to Force 10

Force 10 had the mold stored outdoors when they had a plant fire and this mold was about the only thing that survived.

Baja bought the mold and made some changes which included the stupid reverse chine on the outer edge of the hull and called it the "36 Outlaw".

There were 221 built from 997 to 2006 and the rest is history.

pwam1 03-17-2009 08:31 PM

Does anyone know where the 33 Outlaw mold came from??

Baja_man 03-18-2009 07:27 AM


Originally Posted by Dock Holiday (Post 2823117)
Cig built the original mold.

Cig did not really do anything with it from what I have learned.

Cig sold the mold to Force 10

Force 10 had the mold stored outdoors when they had a plant fire and this mold was about the only thing that survived.

Baja bought the mold and made some changes which included the stupid reverse chine on the outer edge of the hull and called it the "36 Outlaw".

There were 221 built from 997 to 2006 and the rest is history.


They only built 221 36 OL? Seems like a low number.

Dock Holiday 03-18-2009 10:04 AM


Originally Posted by Baja_man (Post 2823638)
They only built 221 36 OL? Seems like a low number.

Almost 25 a year average (2 per month).

Not bad at all for a 36 footer!

Baja_man 03-18-2009 10:07 AM


Originally Posted by Dock Holiday (Post 2823746)
Almost 25 a year average (2 per month).

Not bad at all for a 36 footer!


I guess when you break it down it's not. At first glance it just seemed low. I wonder how many 25 OL's were produced?

Dock Holiday 03-18-2009 11:29 AM


Originally Posted by Baja_man (Post 2823750)
I guess when you break it down it's not. At first glance it just seemed low. I wonder how many 25 OL's were produced?

You need to go back and read this thread.

TeamBaja posted all that data and that is where I copied the 221 for the 36 Outlaw from. I'm not sure what page it was on but somewhere near the middle.

Baja_man 03-18-2009 12:35 PM


Originally Posted by Dock Holiday (Post 2823807)
You need to go back and read this thread.

TeamBaja posted all that data and that is where I copied the 221 for the 36 Outlaw from. I'm not sure what page it was on but somewhere near the middle.


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Baja_man 03-18-2009 12:36 PM

I didnt see anything in this thread on the older 204's...anyone have an old brochure?

Dock Holiday 04-19-2009 04:21 PM

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boatman22 04-19-2009 07:04 PM

Damn I just read this whole thread from page 1:ernaehrung004:.....so cool to see and read about all the history of Baja. Thanks to Dock and everyone else for posting.

Dock Holiday 04-20-2009 08:25 AM


Originally Posted by boatman22 (Post 2847797)
Damn I just read this whole thread from page 1:ernaehrung004:.....so cool to see and read about all the history of Baja. Thanks to Dock and everyone else for posting.

I'm glad you enjoyed this thread Tom. I have learned a lot since we started it also and hope we can keep it going.

Enjoy

TEAMBAJA 04-20-2009 09:03 AM


Originally Posted by boatman22 (Post 2847797)
Damn I just read this whole thread from page 1:ernaehrung004:.....so cool to see and read about all the history of Baja. Thanks to Dock and everyone else for posting.

After reading your post I had to go back through every page to see if I participated. I need to get busy one of these days and start scanning. Should have enough material to burn the bulbs out of the scanner.:ernaehrung004:

boatman22 04-20-2009 09:41 AM

This has got to be on of the most informative threads I have ENJOYED reading. The info about the twin step 42 and the 2-36 staggered Outlaws is something I never knew. Not that I knew much to start with. I'm like Doc in many ways I am a true Baja person, and just learning about the history makes me proud to own one.

Dock Holiday 04-20-2009 11:41 AM


Originally Posted by TEAMBAJA (Post 2848102)
I need to get busy one of these days and start scanning. Should have enough material to burn the bulbs out of the scanner.:ernaehrung004:

You Think?:evilb:

Dock Holiday 07-27-2009 10:26 AM

TTT

Here is a link to a thread with the Baja Mercury Wet Vette and some other good pictures.

http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/b...tte-vette.html

golfmaxgolf 07-27-2009 04:06 PM

Baja Cat 33'
 

Originally Posted by TEAMBAJA (Post 1896362)
:frog:

Say i remember one of these in claveland @ the marina i was racked @ Channel Park Marina It was called Wild Cat Bad old cat, I have been unsuccessful finding it or any info on these boats have you any?

Dock Holiday 10-26-2009 10:35 AM


Originally Posted by TEAMBAJA (Post 2848102)
After reading your post I had to go back through every page to see if I participated. I need to get busy one of these days and start scanning. Should have enough material to burn the bulbs out of the scanner.:ernaehrung004:

You got that scanner fixed yet buddy?


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