It is a shame to see all these people that are so fond and proud of their Baja's have to express it on another web site. I too visited the Team Baja web site and always heard the bashing and name calling and elected not to join.

Many many people have "made their decision" and have left that web site usually because of the pompous attitude displayed it that post.
Jay

Blake,

I elected to leave your site and was NOT banned like you ban so many that don't agree with you.

I did make a mistake over a year ago and posted some pictures of Lucky 7's early. I misunderstood what I was told and quickly took care of the problem the best I could. I admitted the mistake and I also received a lot of cooperation from many that were able to copy the pictures before they were deleted.

Now a year later for no reason at all other then to act like a "Big Man" and belittle me you elected to start a thread by bashing me for something that happened a year ago and did not stop there until you called me a "MeatBall" online on a public forum. Everyone knew what you did and why you did it but we cannot understand why a person that owns a website that relies on paying members continues to put himself in this position to offend membership and look unprofessional.

Because I cannot post on your site at my request I posted my reply on PBP and was happy to see many people contact me that I had not spoken to in some time to thanks me for taking the high road in this matter.

But you could still not leave well enough alone and had to send me an email that really slammed me and was very insultive. I wrote an email reply and should not be suprised that it was returned to me as undeliverable. Yes you have my email address because it is posted everywhere and people know me in person because I do not hide behind a computer screen. But you email is sacred and you can dish it out but you want it to be one sided and you are not going to allow a reply.

The is exactly what you have done with your website as well by not allowing people to express their views or opinions. It is a one way street with you Blake and you wonder why people don't like you and whay they do not support your site. Go Figure?

It was you that said in your email to me for me to leave you alone. If you had not made the post in the first place I would have left you alone just as I have been doing. You stared all of this Blake and you are the one that is on the loosing end of this issue because too many people know now how you operate.

I offered to sit down with you and discuss this but you are not interested in handling this like an adult. I know you got my email because a good friend forwarded it to you and you wrote him back a nasty relpy to inform him that his email address is now blocked also.

I'm going to continue to enjoy boating, enjoy my Baja and support the brand and I do not need you or your site or your opinion to do that.

Funny how you bash Darrells effort to produce a magazine and bash my effort to write an article for it but in seven years now you have done nothing out of the box to promote the sport and bring people together.

I'm not sure what you have against people that are older then you because in your email and this post you keep making as issue out of my age. Do you not want us older guys around? I guess you have found that you cannot bully us.

Blake it is very simple, if you want to screw with me like you did with that post on your site you will have to deal with me on all the sites. You leave me alone and I will leave you alone.

I give you credit for starting TBM, it was a great idea. I am not jealous because I could have started a site at any time and have been asked by many to do so. But I do not have the time or the desire.

You need to step back and take a good look in the mirror and ask yourself why TBM is not the premier site it should be with all the original members supporting it like I have been supporting OSO now since 1999.

Best of luck to you

P.S. I still like that thread about spectulation! Spectulation is a good thing right?:grinser010: Sorry I am more interested in the facts.

I would like to tell mikebris who started this thread and others that have responded and enjoy it that I am sorry that it has come to this.

When Blake blasted me online a year after the issue happened that did not have anything to do with him, and then blasted me on an email and would not allow me to respond back I did get pissed and they say you are supposed to let it out.

Blake,

You cannot defend your actions. I have all the thread posts, the email from you to me and to my friend and emails from many others that condemn your actions. There is no way you can defend a personal attach on someone for no reason.

If people really want to see you for what you are they will enjoy knowing that you own a website just for all the people that you have banned from TBM. You get a lot of pleasure by not getting along with people and running off the paying members that tried to support your site.

www.bannedfromtbm.com

and it redirects you automatically to www.powerboatparty.com which is a site that come into existence only because you ran so many members off.

What kind of businessman and website owner wants to run paying members off?

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It is interesting to see you over on OSO again. Why don't you tell the members about how you were banned from this site and share all the negative comments you had for OSO and it's members.

You cannot defend you actions my friend. I am not asking for an appology which I think I deserve. If you want me to leave you alone you must first stop making posts on your site about me that are unwarranted.

Like some have already said you are not winning any friends here. You really should go back to your site and take care of business before others leave.

no problem mon :cool-smiley-027:
this is entertaining :)

Yeah Blake I'm pretty easy. Remember that YOU ARE THE ONE THAT STARTED THIS.

I did read your post and really cannot understand it. It is typical liberal spin to avoid the actual facts and point the blame elsewhere.

I was NOT on your site for over a year. Look in the mirror buddy you have some serious issues.

You state that you do not like me, that is fine. I think what upsets you is that so many at Baja and on the forums do like me.

You keep avoiding the fact that as a website owner you offend a LOT of people and you blasted me for no reason. That is the issue and you are the one that is keeping this going.

I assume that you are an American but you do not believe in free speech because you shut others down before they can respond.

I am not jealous of you or your site. I just wish you operated it better and that it was a site that many of us here would like to support. It is really too bad that you simply to not get it.

Again you do not make an effort to defend yourself because you can't.

Thanks Mike I'm enjoying it also!

Here is another PM that I just received:

Dock,

I see the pompous a-hole can't come up with a decent comeback on OSO. Has stated the same thing 3x. I am starting to get pretty sick of TBM and what he has done with it. I just stay there because of a few people and my love of all things Baja. Other than that I would have told him what I thought a long time ago. I have your back brother.

and informative:cool-smiley-027:

Here let me help you TeamBajaMarine! We are here on OSO because we do not care about your site. So if we did care we would be posting there and I am for one not. You can say all you want but you are the one looking bad......
No problem Dock!!!

I just like the fact that I can post pictures on this site and then copy them and post them on another site without OSO watermarking the pictures and then claiming ownership..........that pissed me off.

I have had the (pleasure)of meeting Blake first hand.He is a legend in his own mind.I have had 6 Baja's and he questioned my loyalty to the brand.He needs to stay over at his site and stay off of this one.Dock you have forgotten more about the Baja brand then he will ever know.

There is a lot of fact in this statement! Something I found out from Many Texas Members When I Visited TX for a gathering and organization of a poker run.

I think he thought he graced everyone with his presence for the first time in 7 years, but in reality he was able to help many confirm what they thought to already be true:grinser010:

Baja only supports you because their hands are tied, Not becuase they want to.......But then why get into the whole legal battle arguement that many do not know about. Your around for now, but contracts expire!!!!!!!! But what would I know!!! Im just the little guy that has no inside to anything

Dock is 100% Right

I don't have a dog in this fight, but it sure is fun to watch.

No it's really not fun at all.

Yes it is! :angry-smiley-038:

Well we have Blake to thank for all the fun.

It looks like he has packed up, tucked his tail and left?

The facts is the facts.:D

I just think at some point somebody has to be the first one to just let things go. Do we really want to be talking about this stuff another year from now?

I would do anything for Mark and Tommie and consider them close friends, I also hang out on TBM quite a bit with my friends there. I don't feel like I need to take sides but this is getting crazy. Is it spring yet? I need a boating fix. :p:D

Does anyone have any more pictures of Split Decision or maybe some shots of the tow rig?

Let's get this thread back on track.

I heard best of 85.5 on GPS - are they done testing?

How come only one persons posts gets deleted from the post? Seems a bit unfair if anything, if one gets deleted, both should so we can get back on topic. If anything, that seems to be a common thing on OSO.

Anyway, can we get back to SD? (awesome boat) I cant wait to see the numbers. Possibly 90?

:stupid::ernaehrung004: I agree 100% with Matt! We shouldn't have to choose sides all the boating sites have great info and great people on them. I personally don't wanna still be talking about this 2yrs after it happened. I also spend a favorable amount of time on TBM as well as OSO and have always found the information to be informative as well as great people.

Back to Split Decision only 2 more months til boating season.

Split Decision won't see 90 mph. Well it will see what 90 looks like as I go by.:evilb:

Hahaha :D

Maybe you could throw 'em a line and tow it to 90. :boat:

Folks most of you know me pretty well and the one thing I have not asked is for anyone to choose sides.

I have never said that I "DO NOT LIKE BLAKE". But he has made it very clear that he does not like me.

I have wittnessed him deleteing posts from supporters that do not agree with his opinion and then if those same people questioned his decision he deleted their membership and banned them.

He asked for me to leave him alone. Well I was leaving him alone. He is the one that made the negative post about me and called me a "MEATBALL" over a year after I left his site.

Again he controls the site and I cannot respond and if I could we know that he would just delete it. But yet he is the one that wants everyone to believe this is one sided. YES IT IS and he is the one that made it one sided and that is the reason that I have brought this to the forefront once and for all for everyone to see.

He sends and nasty email and then blocks your address so you cannot reply. THAT IS ONE SIDED ON HIS PART.

He has really stepped in it this time and he looks like the fool that he has proven to many of us to be.

As a website owner / business man you would think that he would keep his opinion to his self and not offend paying supporters to his site.

He started this and he started it this time with the wrong person and I am not going to let him get away with this. He can and does control what is posted on his site, but when he attacks me and then sends me an email it is personal and he is going to hear about it and the world is going to see the facts.

I can back up everything that is posted here and you all saw first hand that he cannot defend his actions.

There are some twenty odd people that I know that have left the site on their own or have been banned so this is not a one sided issue as Blake would like you to think.

Has anyone noticed how every post or email from this guy ends with the following statement:

The bottom line if you or anyone else does not like what I do, then just move on.


Blake I did just that and moved on but you have to bring me into this over a year later and start it all up again and I not going to lay down and take if my friend.

That is all I have to say and the facts speak for themselves.


Newsflash:

I just learned that Blake started another thread over on TBM last night (2-25-2008)bashing and slamming "Dock Holiday" only to have to delete it when his members turned on him. Then under the reason for it being deleted is “fu$ck Dock Holiday”.

Yes that is right as soon as he saw there was no support for his comments and as soon as he saw he could not control the direction of the thread (IE Turn People Against Dock Holiday) well he did what he is most experienced in and "DELETED IT"!

That was very mature of you Blake. If you really want this to go away you need to QUIT POSTING. When are you going to learn that you cannot treat people like this?

As for the speeds on "Split Decision" I knew they had their work cut out for them.

The 40 Outlaw in Texas with 700's runs 81 MPH on GPS. It is a stock layup loaded with everything including generator.

Now Split Decision is 1500 lbs lighter according to Baja, it has a pad bottom and a knotched transom.

If those things all add up to 12 to 13 MPH then they have hit a working combination that will help all their future boats.

One thing that you have to remember is this. If Lucky 7's could run 99.9 which I witnessed on Lake Erie but they can only run 55 MPH on Lake Michigan in the worst conditions due to the limitations of the hull length, and then "Split Decision" can only run say 89MPH (10 slower then 7's) best conditions but is running 70 MPH in the rough conditions with the added surface then you have an overall better boat for the poker run circuit in my opinion.

As a Baja dealer in South Florida told me at the FBC party in Miami the 40 Outlaw is one "WAVE CRUSHING MACHINE".

I am very proud of what Baja as done with this boat and project.

So,,, are you trying to say ,, Its not how fast ya can go ,,,, but its ,, "how ya go fast "" ,,, I agree ,,, 70-80 in big water ,, going thru other boats wake's will put the big boat out front every time !!! HHHHmmm ,,, reminds me of an Apache I once drove!!!:D:evilb:

RHC

You are very astute my friend.:D

That Apache you are referring to is not the same one that is pictured here with Dock Holiday passing it:evilb: is it?

If I did not know better I would swear that Apache splashed that hull from the Baja Outlaw!

All fun aside Roger she was a SWEET machine and we really appreciate the opportunity to have crewed on two poker runs in her. I love the helicopter shot we had up at Thousand Islands.

Actually I was suprised when I heard they were expecting 93 to 94 MPH out of her because some of my motivation with the engine project was to be faster then Blane this year at the poker runs.

I can see it now:

Dock Holiday 1st
Bad Idea 2nd
Split Decision 3rd

:D:D:D

Would that be Jason with one drive or two???? Maybe one of his and a loaner from you :D:D I heard he was going to be the IMCO poster picture this year. :evilb:
Jay

You know I have to go easy on that one Jay. I have felt his pain on the outdrives and I'm sure I will feel it even more in the future.

But with the help of Jay the Wrench we should do just fine!:D

I'll hire "Mr. Gadget" as a consultant. We'll "GETTER DONE"
Jay

Jay has been known to be the duck tape king.He can fix anything...

I thought that anyone driving a Ford would know about duck tape--or at least they should know!!!! :D

Hmm, this needs some re-arranging!

Bad Idea 1st
Dock Holiday 2nd
Split Decision 3rd

There. That is better!
With all things considered Dock, we should be pretty close to each other on speed.

Hey I have duct tape on my Ford!

That works buddy. If I am close to you on speed I will be very happy.

TMB HAS ALLWAYS BEEN BS never waisted my time there,BS stands for Blakes Site

Bobby please give us your professional opinion of "Split Decision".

No "BS" please.

Thanks

I think they should have staggered the motors lowered the lifting strakes ,basiclly streched a 35 I dont think its going to run that good the cg on a 40 is way to forward .the light layup in a Baja is not perfected yet I hered a rumor that they put a new bottom on pokerface and lucky 7s thay cracked