I was in the yellow boat and out of 100 boats only 14 of them made the afternoon run because it was so rough. Trust me those boats are not going to get that much air in 2ft waves. Ask anyone that ran the run that year and they will tell you how rough it was. In a 29' boat in 4ft waves the boat wouldn't be in the water long enough to reach those speeds let alone a Baja that is a very light boat compared to most. You would spend majority of the ride in the air which would be fun and your arm would be sore from throttling so much but no way running 90 plus MPH.

Also anyone that loves to boat in these waves will tell you they look smaller in pictures and video but when you are really in them they look pretty big!!

agreed. I think it comes back to how people measure waves.
He either "thought" he was in 4'ers but were actually half the size.
or.... it simply didn't happen.
or he was dreaming it happened.
or perhaps just a fish story.

I understand. Not saying these werent 4's esp considering the air but just saying it doesnt photgraph well.

Also, again to clairfy, 4' waves are actually 8' in height because you you dont measure from trough to the peak. Ill see what i can find as far as a diagram goes.

http://www.sciencescope.co.uk/images..._of_a_wave.jpg

when we are on the water and experiencing waves we are obviously experiencing the entire wave from trough to the peak which you can see from the diagram above would be equal to 2 times the amplitude. When waves are reported they are only reported by their amplitude. therefore when Jason says his bow is out of the water 4 ft and they come over the bow these would be approximately 2 ft waves. Again because the boat would be sitting in the trough and the peak of the wave is coming over the top. Now I wasnt on the lake and didnt observe the lake during the 90mph runs so I cant say they were or were not. I am just trying to clarify how a wave measurement is defined.

There's the reason that it was not done......he was in a FAJA....:grinser010:

So, I am confused a little. When we were in the poker run and the wave heights were 4 to 5s, then how big were they really???

When I was refering to wave height I was refering to the WHOLE wave. That is what you see and feel. Nothing was said about number of feet above "normal" water level. When you see a wave it is from trough to crest and that is height I refer to when I say wave height. My 2cents FWIW.

I am with you on this. You can see the forcast for Lake Michigan and it will say 3 - 5'. You can barely boat in that. Second to last time I went out they were calling it 2 -4'. Hardley anybody out in it. I was out crushin some when a 32' Sunsation came out. He went about 1/2 mile then turned around and headed back into the channel.

I just wish I could have had someone on the pier that day takin video. I was getting some major air out there. When I came back into the channel people were looking at me like I was crazy, I was having a ball.

We were in bigger water than that. The waves were way closer togather & not as sloppy as those pictured.
We were also the only two fools on the water besides the kids that were ejected from their boat like T38 mentioned.
There is some fish story to the speed but it made for a good thread.

The great lakes kick up way more than four footers and yes they will be rollers too. But depending on mother nature and the wind direction those 3-4 footers can be rode across like a flat highway in a Viper at 150. I made a trip form Harbor beach to port sanilac (30 miles) lake huron north winds at about 25-30mph. looked nasty but did it anyway. better half wasn't feelin well and laid in the back seat, 1/4 way through the trip she gets up, I slow bown to an idle and felt like I was in a washing machine. Describe the situation to her, until we get over 30ish its going to feel like a buckin horse in the rodeo. after that don't worry. The waves were real short and choppy 3 -4's first set of longer rollers we came across, I remember her grabin the Ohh chit handles, only to look over at me with those eyes of how did you did that. we could have left the bolasters up and set down for the ride. other days it could be the total opposite. marine forecast 3-5's get out there and it's 4-6"2 with the occassional 8-12. Yeah the great lakes can be just as bad or worse than the ocean. Have'nt done the ocean but I can claim all five great lakes:drink: and servivied some rough chit. Port Huron to PIB 5 hours return trip 13 need I say more?