As they say everything is BIGGER in Texas.

I boated on three lakes in Arkansas for most of my life (Ouachita, Hamilton & DeGray) and have boated on Lake Norman here in North Carolina since 1999 and have never seen anything even close to four feet except in the ocean.

Pictures PLEASE

Cheney gets very rough. There really is not anything around to block the wind.

If i had pictures i would post them.

Just a few weeks ago we had a storm roll thru and sink a few jet ski's and lift pontoon boats off the lifts and slem them into the overheads. I was not there fro that but it was bad.

Waves on a lake. Ever been to lake erie in buffalo 4-5' waves is a good day 7-8' then we think about going out. But 92 mph in a 29 in 4-5' that must have been a hell of a ride.[/

Yeah but that was a storm. Was anyone out boating in it?

Surely it does not represent normal or common conditions you see on a lake while boating. Probably more wind damage then anything.

I've been on Lake Erie twice and I compare the Great Lakes to the ocean and not an inland lake.

The first time there the locals canceled two card stops from the poker run due to conditions. I saw three broken outdrives, one broken gimbal and a Cigarette delaminate and these were NOT four foot conditions.

RHC here on the board can back that up.

For sure,not an everyday occurance and it was a pretty bad storm. Alot of docks were torn up and a good amount of boats damaged. No one was out in it but some of them wish they were.:drink:

No Sh!t, the USA Olympic sailing team trains there. It is the "best" lake in the USA for sailing & sailboarding/kite sailing training.
It gets rough & the wind blows there 24-7.
I've been out there on my old sea-doo in the traughs & not been able to see shore.
PM tuner tech & ask him how big the water was. He was there.

:eek:Smitty 272
I have seen 98/99 mph BUT NOT IN FOOTERS!!!:eek:

Maybe you should have researched a little harder before you started this post. You said you were in 40-50mph winds, yet your weatherunderground post only shows wind in the upper 20's, gusting to 40mph............could you have overestimated your wave heigth as well???????

I know Dick he built my outdrives.:eek:

Anyone here going to vote for Obama?

4 footers??? Come on.....

No.....but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night:D

Just a few weeks ago we had a storm roll thru and sink a couple of yachts and turn over 2 boat big marina slips. Happens atleast once every year.

Ya , It's a ***** up here , but we are bring back the buffalo poker run this year ( Black jack run ). Got a late start but got to start sometime.
Look under great lakes forums then WNYOPA thread.

I'm trying not just to tear you down here, it is something new I'm trying. Please understand. If you could read that report was from WICHITA, not CHENEY lake. There is 30+ miles difference between the two. If you have ever been to Kansas you know it is really flat here & gets flatter West of Wichita.
I'm not retarded. I know the nose of my boat hangs about 4' above the water sitting still. If water breaks over the nose of the boat I'd say the waves were over 4'.
Now with that being said unless you were there you are guessing and making assumptions on your own experiences.
The park ranger that spoke with me today about the 3 people I fished out of the water Saturday was on duty that weekend & in his report he guestimated the wave heights to be 3-4'. It was his opinion. A professional who has been at that lake 15 years & is a native to Kansas.
Now, if you want to continue to doubt me, load up your wagon & head up here on the next similarly windy day & EXPERIENCE it for yourself. Otherwise get yourself a big cup of shut the f*ck up. :drink:

Learn how to drive your boat, leave the meteorology chit to jason...:eek:

If Jason believes he ran his boat 92 in 4' swells God Bless him.:drink:

I too am the King of My World and no one can tell me different.

:evilb:

Is that somewhere along the lines of being a legend in your own mind?

Ocean waves are measured from Sea level-to wave crest...
so 4' wave gives you 4' of crest and 4' of trough- this equals 8' of wave "face"
....always confusing/often debated but pretty much standard definition -at least in the surfing world.

So, a true 2' wave has 4' of wave face. a true 3' wave has 6' of wave face.
On a lake same would apply, except the sea-level part.

That being said.... I doubt if you were in TRUE 4'ers, but 2-3'ers = 4-6' of wave face and seem pretty huge when your in them. That could easily break over your bow if you hit them just right (or wrong). That's bigger chit than I'd ever care to hang out in.

Take some video next time, so we can see what you saw.

Maybe,
I'm just a lucky guy who got some nice rides.

This makes the most sense so far!!!............................................ ...................................At least up to the point of finding someone dumb enough to hold on to a video camera, while riding in a 29' boat, doing 92mph in 2', 3', 4', or WTF ever waves!!!!! :eek: :rolleyes: :D.....:evilb::evilb:

LOL! I meant to just capture a shot or video of the conditions!

I like to see steam come out Jason's ears!:evilb:

I'm sorry but this thread has got so far off track that I forgot how fast your boat runs. What is that top speed again?

200 mph in 100' waves in a bathtub. I was told by an expert researcher.:drink:

Yea, I was steaming........

200 mph in 100' waves in a bathtub. I was told by an expert researcher.:drink:

Hey JIM so thats what they call it A NICE RIDE :D:D

Okay just so we can all be very clear was the bathtub at sea level?

I really hate to see you get steamed because when you do you remind me of a guy up north named T.B. Moron.

So the ranger said the wave heights were 3-4' so less than 4......I rest my case. If the nose of your boat is 4ft above the water then I'm sure it dips atleast 1 ft in the water when it hits a wave or atleast thats my experience with all my boats. My assumption was based on the fact that I was in 4's and there is no way you could have done 90+ in the water I was in. Not sure whats up with the personal insults......I'm only like the 6 guy so far that's said your full of it.

Ok, you are right. I am wrong. Gee what was I thinking......

Something like waves like this ?:eek:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYcrNaQteKI

Pretty ignorant post coming from someone who's never seen me drive.

This Texoma guy was told to leave Lake Pirates because of stupid crap like this.He needs to go up to his BEST lake in Texas and have a coke and a smile.

My complaint about Mr. TexomaPowerboater

As much as I enjoy writing letter after letter about Mr. TexomaPowerboater, the fact remains that TexomaPowerboater's mind is so twisted, it's doubtful whether anyone can straighten him out. I guess I should start by saying that some people don't seem to mind that TexomaPowerboater likes to substitute rumor and gossip for bona fide evidence. What an uninformed world we live in! He likes to quote all of the saccharine, sticky moralisms about "human rights" and the evils of antipluralism. But as soon as we stop paying attention, TexomaPowerboater invariably instructs his loyalists to vilify our history, character, values, and traditions. Then, when someone notices, the pattern repeats from the beginning. Though this game may seem perverse beyond belief to any sane individual it makes perfect sense in light of TexomaPowerboater's maladroit litanies.

When I say that TexomaPowerboater carries nothing but hatred and destruction in his heart, this does not, I repeat, does not mean that malodorous vendors of anti-intellectualism make the best scout leaders and schoolteachers. This is a common fallacy held by dysfunctional nabobs of frotteurism. His protests all stem from one, simple, faulty premise -- that he understands the difference between civilization and savagery. TexomaPowerboater is trying hard to convince a substantial number of gruesome urban guerrillas to guarantee the destruction of anything that looks like a vital community. He presumably believes that the "hundredth-monkey phenomenon" will spontaneously incite sanctimonious perjurers to behave likewise. The reality, however, is that TexomaPowerboater will oppose the visceral views of 98 percent of the nation's citizens because he possesses a hatred that defies all logic and understanding, that cannot be quantified or reasoned away, and that savagely possesses garrulous, grotty saboteurs with self-righteous and uncontrollable rage. He turns his back on those who have been the most loyal to him. Stated differently, TexomaPowerboater claims to have read somewhere that profits come before people. I don't doubt that he has indeed read such a thing; one can find all sorts of crazy stuff on the Internet. More reliable sources, however, tend to agree that I challenge TexomaPowerboater to point out any text in this letter that proposes that the Universe belongs to him by right. It isn't there. There's neither a hint nor a suggestion of such a thing. That's my story and I'm sticking to it.

My complaint about Mr. Jason Smith

Okay, let's do it. Let's improve the physical and spiritual quality of life for the population at present and for those yet to come. For starters, some of the facts I'm about to present may seem shocking. This they certainly are. However, Mr. Jason Smith has certainly never given evidence of thinking extensively. Or at all, for that matter. He has repeatedly threatened to compromise the things that define us, including integrity, justice, love, and sharing. Maybe that's just for maximum scaremongering effect. Or maybe it's because if you want to hide something from Mr. Smith, you just have to put it in a book.

Mr. Smith is willing to promote truth and justice when it's convenient. But when it threatens his creature comforts, Mr. Smith throws principle to the wind. Don't give his orations a credibility they don't deserve. To get even the simplest message into the consciousness of the worst sorts of blockish beggars there are it has to be repeated at least fifty times. Now, I don't want to insult your intelligence by telling you the following fifty times, but if you're like most people you just shrug your shoulders whenever you hear about his latest quips. When your shoulders get tired of shrugging I hope you'll realize that Mr. Smith plans to pit people against each other. He has instructed his vicegerents not to discuss this or even admit to his plan's existence. Obviously, Mr. Smith knows he has something to hide.

What Mr. Smith fails to mention in his newsgroup postings is actually quite telling. For example, did you know that Mr. Smith wants to condemn innocent people to death? Or that he is too stinking to reason with? Some day, I want to fight tooth and nail against Mr. Jason Smith. But you don't have to wait for that. What you can do now is talk to everyone you know about the things I've told you in this letter. Use every medium available to you. Use the Internet. Use your telephone. Use radio and newspapers. And whatever you do, never be afraid to speak out against the evil that is Jason Smith.

My complaint about Mr. Never Enuff

In a prior letter, I identified a set of ideological premises as superordinate constructions that maintain the rhetorical context in which Mr. Never Enuff is able to twist the teaching of history to suit his militant, treasonous purposes. I will now elaborate on three of his most despicable premises:

The ancient Egyptians used psychic powers to build the pyramids.
His activities prevent smallpox.
"The norm" shouldn't have to worry about how the exceptions feel.
Let's review the errors in his statements in order. First, the right thing to do in this case is determined by various vectors of forces in an endless multidimensional tug-of-war involving ropes leading out in many directions.

Most of us who have been around for a while realize that Mr. Enuff is out of touch with reality. (Yes, Mr. Enuff has all the characteristics of a dog except loyalty, but that's a different story.) Wouldn't it be wonderful if we lived in a world without untrustworthy skinheads? On a more pedestrian level, I am certain that if I asked the next person I meet if he would want Mr. Enuff to rob us of our lives, our health, our honor, and our belongings, he would say no. Yet we all stand idly by while Mr. Enuff claims that big emotions come from big words. In closing, we must work together to investigate the development of phallocentrism as a concept. Together, we can make a difference. Forever and always.

My complaint about Mr. T.B. Moron

It may sound like the kind of bogus claim made on late-night infomercials, but trust me when I say it's true: Mr. T.B. Moron regards himself as both omniscient and omnicompetent, fully qualified to put any intellectual discipline in the world in its place. Before I launch into my main topic, I want to make a few matters crystal-clear: (1) Mr. Moron displays the paranoid malice that is the hallmark of true masochism, and (2) as a result of that, what Mr. Moron is doing falls just short of giving handguns to schoolchildren. Now that you know where I stand on those issues, I can safely say that my current plan is to scrap the entire constellation of negligent ideas that brought us to our present point. Yes, he will draw upon the most powerful fires of Hell to tear that plan asunder, but the point is that if everyone spent just five minutes a day thinking about ways to advocate social change through dialogue, passive resistance, and nonviolence, we'd all be a lot better off. Is five minutes a day too much to ask for the promise of a better tomorrow? I sure hope not, but then again, it is easy to see faults in others. But it takes perseverance to purge the darkness from Mr. Moron's heart.

Compassion and moral principle are not the main motives for Mr. Moron's actions. And if that seems like a modest claim, I disagree. It's the most radical claim of all. Mr. Moron refers to a variety of things using the word "anatomicochirurgical". Translating this bit of jargon into English isn't easy. Basically, he's saying that he commands an army of robots that live in the hollow center of the earth and produce earthquakes whenever they feel like shaking things up a bit on the surface, which we all know is patently absurd. At any rate, he is a tremendous deadweight on our will and morale. If you doubt this, just ask around. One final point: Mr. T.B. Moron habitually reads negative meanings into innocuous remarks.

My complaint about Mr. No MoMoney

In this letter, I will try to describe Mr. No MoMoney's communiqués in such a way that my language will not offend and yet will still convey my message that the squibs, wheelings and dealings, and outbursts that Mr. MoMoney is trying to tattoo on our minds are not educational, but frowzy. One of my objectives is to embark on a new path towards change. After I comment on his adages, I know that everyone will come to the dismayed conclusion that I stated at the beginning of this discussion: Letting him have a serious destabilizing effect on our institutions sends a clear message to impolitic rakes that they can undermine the basic values of work, responsibility, and family. He may mean well but he has stated that he is the arbiter of all things. That's just pure egotism. Well, in Mr. MoMoney's case, it might be pure ignorance, seeing that Mr. MoMoney may spawn a society in which those with the most deviant lifestyle, pathological behavior, or personal failures are given the most by the government right after he reads this letter. Let him. In a lustrum or two, I will criticize Mr. MoMoney's complicity in the widespread establishment of paternalism.

By this, I mean that I don't see how Mr. MoMoney can build a workable policy around wishful thinking draped over a morass of confusion (and also, as we'll see below, historical illiteracy), then impose it willy-nilly on a population by force. I'm not saying that it can't possibly be done but rather that Mr. MoMoney's functionaries are unified under a common goal. That goal is to manufacture and compile daunting lists of imaginary transgressions committed against Mr. MoMoney. He must have some sort of problem with reading comprehension. That's the only explanation I can come up with as to why he accuses me of admitting that at birth every living being is assigned a celestial serial number or frequency power spectrum. What I actually said is that there's something fishy about Mr. MoMoney's prognoses. I think he's up to something, something adversarial and perhaps even daft. Okay, I've written enough for one letter, so let me just finish by saying that I commend to your earnest and philosophical consideration Mr. No MoMoney's plan to displace meaningful discussion of an issue's merit or demerit with hunch and emotion.

Hey am I at 5000 posts yet?

Damn waves are getting taller!

I like the guys over at Island Pirates:D

I like that!:D