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1MOSES1 07-14-2010 09:01 PM

WTB: 29 Outlaw
 
I am having a hard time finding a 29 Outlaw for my budget which is approx 45-46k. I should be able to find a 00-02 with twin engines for this price right? Seems like alll the owners selling right now are upside down and asking a lot more than they worth...

Any suggestions?

Nightlife1970 07-14-2010 09:46 PM

I have seen 29's for far less than that.

sonic69 07-15-2010 05:14 AM

A nice 99 just sold in Cumberland for 31K.

29KILROY 07-15-2010 05:54 AM

the reason you are having a hard time is I believe you won't find a nice 00'-02' with good motors, Trailer, etc. for 45-46! If you do it wouldn't be something I would want too own.

1MOSES1 07-15-2010 07:33 AM

^^^ where are you located?

I would disagree with 29KILROY: I have seen numerous boats in good condition in this price range. Problem is they sell quickly. Here are links to just a couple...

http://www.yachtworld.com/core/listi...redlinemarine&

http://www.yachtworld.com/core/listi...ionyachtsales&

JMS322 07-15-2010 08:51 AM

Not a 29 but close....This boat is LOADED and spotless.. Make me a decent offer.... I don't owe anything on it so I'm not upside down.

http://www.offshoreonly.com/classifi...o34848-en.html

29KILROY 07-15-2010 08:56 AM

Okay let me explain a little more. Fresh Water boat, not with 310 motors, atleast 454/502 Mag's or 496 Mag/H.O.'s, low hrs, SST, Ex. I know what my old 00' 29 was and what I sold for.

TW720HVY 07-15-2010 09:52 AM

The market is still screwed up IMO. We just sold a 2006 Mini Cooper S (I know it is not a boat) with only 9500 miles (never in the rain or snow). We were not asking a dime over NADA or KBB and every time I posted it somewhere I had someone telling me I was asking too much money for it.

There was no note and we did not have to sell it, so I am not too sure everyone is upside down. More like buyers think it is still their market and the buyers think they can get something for nothing right now. If people are not forced to sell it then they will not. We had our Mini on the market for almost a year. And someone who understood the value and condition paid for it.

The market does not know if it is coming or going still. Keep looking I am sure you may find something, but it is not easy..... just may thoughts.

:coolcowboy:

272bajadriver 07-15-2010 11:12 AM

There is a 1999 36 outlaw here in florida where I live on boattraderonline for 39k. It seems way too good to be true to me the price is almmost scaring me. I haven't looked at it or anything like that but for the price I can only assume it will need new engines soon or something!

TEAMBAJA 07-15-2010 11:52 AM


Originally Posted by moses0324 (Post 3158830)
I am having a hard time finding a 29 Outlaw for my budget which is approx 45-46k. I should be able to find a 00-02 with twin engines for this price right? Seems like alll the owners selling right now are upside down and asking a lot more than they worth...

Any suggestions?

I remembered seeing this 29 Outlaw on EBAY yesterday.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2000-...item255bcd89be

n20michael 07-15-2010 11:54 AM

Here is a 99, might pick it up reasonable?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1999-...item1c14175cef

29KILROY 07-15-2010 12:56 PM

TEAMBAJA knows what I am trying to say. His brother sold his 29 for a good $$$ just as I did. But mine was a much different boat then the ones mentioned so far!

1MOSES1 07-15-2010 04:40 PM

maybe i should elaborate...i am having trouble finding something around my region (northeast).

i know i can find something easily if I choose the 99' or 98' route. I would really like to find a good deal on a 00' or 01'.

I refuse to bail someone out who is upside down on a boat. Some reasonable prices would include 49k to 55k. Many are outrageously overpriced (65k). I mean come on.

yet another one i missed out on:

http://www.boatsville.com/used_boats...ja&OUTLAW+SST+

JasonSmith 07-15-2010 06:14 PM

Hmmm....I know of a 29 Outlaw that can be had in that $55-$60k range with nice power & a newly rebuilt trailer that will run in the mid 80's without the Whipples & in the 90'w with the Whipples (upper 60k range with the blowers).
Not that you are looking for the best buy on a 29 Outlaw or anything, but I've got more $$ invested in this thing than what a guy should have & my 29 speaks for it's self when it comes to being clean. It needs minimal gathering up considering it is a 99.
http://www.offshoreonly.com/classifi...o30346-en.html

Quinlan 07-16-2010 08:51 AM

There you have it! Step right up and blow most all Bajas away!
And serveral others too

Irishtornado 07-16-2010 10:07 AM


Originally Posted by TEAMBAJA (Post 3159307)
I remembered seeing this 29 Outlaw on EBAY yesterday.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2000-...item255bcd89be

There you go a 454Mag boat thats a 2000 in your price range...People that have these boats know what they're worth they aren't going to give them away...Just like me I'd sell my boat too, but not going to give it away..

JasonSmith 07-16-2010 10:54 AM


Originally Posted by Quinlan (Post 3160107)
There you have it! Step right up and blow most all Bajas away!
And serveral others too

I learned a long time ago that it is cheaper to buy the keys than to build one yourself.
My 29 will ride better too because of the extension boxes. It will be faster with with less power too compared to another 29 with the same power. All the hard work has been done. The boat is 100% dialed in.

JasonSmith 07-16-2010 10:55 AM

I'll deliver mine too!

272bajadriver 07-16-2010 12:08 PM

Not for anything but that 33 that he posted a link on that he said he missed out on was a hell of a deal. 2002 33 outlaw sst for 40k or best offer!!! From the pictures it looked very clean as well that almost sounds too good to be true!!

Anchorman 07-17-2010 10:34 AM


Originally Posted by moses0324 (Post 3159584)
maybe i should elaborate...i am having trouble finding something around my region (northeast).

i know i can find something easily if I choose the 99' or 98' route. I would really like to find a good deal on a 00' or 01'.

I refuse to bail someone out who is upside down on a boat. Some reasonable prices would include 49k to 55k. Many are outrageously overpriced (65k). I mean come on.

yet another one i missed out on:

http://www.boatsville.com/used_boats...ja&OUTLAW+SST+

There has been a 33 around New Haven Conn for sale on and off that is not too bad. It has been in salt water but still not bad shape.

1MOSES1 07-17-2010 10:41 AM

I am trying to work a deal on a 01 29 outlaw...I put in an offer so now I am waiting to hear back


There you go a 454Mag boat thats a 2000 in your price range...People that have these boats know what they're worth they aren't going to give them away...Just like me I'd sell my boat too, but not going to give it away..
I know what they are worth too, and a lot of them are overpriced right now...all the good deals go early in the season. the only ones remaining are not great deals. I expect these oweners will lower there prices by at least 10k in order to get out of storage fees etc.


Hmmm....I know of a 29 Outlaw that can be had in that $55-$60k range with nice power & a newly rebuilt trailer that will run in the mid 80's without the Whipples & in the 90'w with the Whipples (upper 60k range with the blowers).
Not that you are looking for the best buy on a 29 Outlaw or anything, but I've got more $$ invested in this thing than what a guy should have & my 29 speaks for it's self when it comes to being clean. It needs minimal gathering up considering it is a 99.
http://www.offshoreonly.com/classifi...o30346-en.html
I am trying to stay away from modded boats.

indywhsle 07-17-2010 01:15 PM

I don't think you should look at Jason's boat as modified. The price he told you was without the blowers. Look at it as better internals than any stock power that you have looked at. I have seen his boat and it is flawless.

JasonSmith 07-17-2010 03:31 PM

My motors without the Whipples will be as reliable as a 525. Because they have the same parts inside with exception to the camshaft. The cam is a Tyler Crockett grind that is real similar to the 525 cam but it has a different firing order.
Any Merc technician can plug into my engines & tell exactly what is wrong just as they could with a stock motor. All the parts are off the shelf stuff that can be had very easily.
The extension boxes & short drives are nothing to worry about either. All the parts can be had from IMCO or Mercruiser. IMCO uses Mercruiser gears & bearings.
I had an issue one time at Lake Travis with a drive & they fixed me up on the water with Merc parts. Took all of 30 minutes to do.
It really is worth your time to consider the boat. All these people on here aren't blowing smoke up your a$$. The boat is clean & could be ready to go in just a few weeks if you don't want the Whipples.

Irishtornado 07-17-2010 06:05 PM


Originally Posted by moses0324 (Post 3161237)
I know what they are worth too, and a lot of them are overpriced right now...all the good deals go early in the season. the only ones remaining are not great deals. I expect these oweners will lower there prices by at least 10k in order to get out of storage fees etc.

I wouldn't hold my breath on that. Eventually the price will go back up and most know it. That's why the pruces are staying higher. You saw people hitting panic button as well as repo's. Most of those are now gone and you see what is left. NADA is basing pricing on repo market. Mine books out for 45k with 500efi's. Pretty unreasonable pricing IMO

TEAMBAJA 07-17-2010 07:08 PM


Originally Posted by moses0324 (Post 3158830)
I am having a hard time finding a 29 Outlaw for my budget which is approx 45-46k. I should be able to find a 00-02 with twin engines for this price right? Seems like alll the owners selling right now are upside down and asking a lot more than they worth...

Any suggestions?

Would you consider a 302 or is a 29 Outlaw the only option?

tbirdusa 07-17-2010 07:13 PM

If I were in the market for a 29 twin on your budget, I'd go borrow another 10G's and be at Jason's back door in a minute. There are only a handful of 29's that will run that speed... if you consider 1 a handful.

Twin-Kyle 07-17-2010 08:23 PM

Buy Jason's 29 and be happy. If I was in the market for a 29 I would be all over that thing.

Irishtornado 07-18-2010 12:16 AM


Originally Posted by moses0324 (Post 3159053)
^^^ where are you located?

I would disagree with 29KILROY: I have seen numerous boats in good condition in this price range. Problem is they sell quickly. Here are links to just a couple...

http://www.yachtworld.com/core/listi...redlinemarine&

http://www.yachtworld.com/core/listi...ionyachtsales&

I can tell you why those boats are selling so cheap is cause they are saltwater boats and most of the Baja owners are found in the midwest where we prefer not to own saltwater boats due to the damage that is caused by improperly maintained boats...All those didn't have trailers so add another 5k to the price when they have trailers.

I wish you all the luck, but if your looking at boats ran in saltwater or older GET A SURVEY done on them you might find out why they are selling so cheap...JMO

indywhsle 07-18-2010 09:35 AM

The 29 on ebay that was mentioned before says reduced. Don't know if that was the price when you looked at it. you may want to look at it again.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1999-...item1c14175cef

1MOSES1 07-18-2010 10:31 AM


If I were in the market for a 29 twin on your budget, I'd go borrow another 10G's and be at Jason's back door in a minute. There are only a handful of 29's that will run that speed... if you consider 1 a handful.
If I were going to borrow another 10k, I would buy local from a gentlemen who has a 2004 29 outlaw with twin 496's.


Would you consider a 302 or is a 29 Outlaw the only option?
outlaw is the only option


I wish you all the luck, but if your looking at boats ran in saltwater or older GET A SURVEY done on them you might find out why they are selling so cheap...JMO
a survey will be conducted regardless per my bank loan agreement.


I wouldn't hold my breath on that. Eventually the price will go back up and most know it. That's why the pruces are staying higher. You saw people hitting panic button as well as repo's. Most of those are now gone and you see what is left. NADA is basing pricing on repo market. Mine books out for 45k with 500efi's. Pretty unreasonable pricing IMO
the fact that 95% of the boats still on the market from spring, i am highly optimistic prices will drop in a few weeks.


My motors without the Whipples will be as reliable as a 525. Because they have the same parts inside with exception to the camshaft. The cam is a Tyler Crockett grind that is real similar to the 525 cam but it has a different firing order.
Any Merc technician can plug into my engines & tell exactly what is wrong just as they could with a stock motor. All the parts are off the shelf stuff that can be had very easily.
The extension boxes & short drives are nothing to worry about either. All the parts can be had from IMCO or Mercruiser. IMCO uses Mercruiser gears & bearings.
I had an issue one time at Lake Travis with a drive & they fixed me up on the water with Merc parts. Took all of 30 minutes to do.
It really is worth your time to consider the boat. All these people on here aren't blowing smoke up your a$$. The boat is clean & could be ready to go in just a few weeks if you don't want the Whipples.
Jason is your trailer boxed painted SS??

JasonSmith 07-18-2010 11:11 PM


Originally Posted by moses0324 (Post 3161699)
Jason is your trailer boxed painted SS??

Huh? The trailer is a steel Heritage that I had fixed the right way, the way it should have been made to begin with. It is all square tube framing & runners.
It has new paint, new springs, bearings & seals, brake system, 8 new 15" wheels & 10 ply tires (so you're not blowing out tires every trip) new wiring, new LED lights.

1MOSES1 07-19-2010 07:02 AM


Huh? The trailer is a steel Heritage that I had fixed the right way, the way it should have been made to begin with. It is all square tube framing & runners.
It has new paint, new springs, bearings & seals, brake system, 8 new 15" wheels & 10 ply tires (so you're not blowing out tires every trip) new wiring, new LED lights.
I'll be doing salt water boating so your trailer is a no-go for me...I wont buy anything other than Aluminum at this point.

TW720HVY 07-19-2010 08:39 AM


Originally Posted by JasonSmith (Post 3162111)
It has new paint, new springs, bearings & seals, brake system, 8 new 15" wheels & 10 ply tires (so you're not blowing out tires every trip) new wiring, new LED lights.

The way these trailers should have been built from the beginning. Best money we spent on upgrading a trailer.


Originally Posted by moses0324 (Post 3162192)
I'll be doing salt water boating so your trailer is a no-go for me...I wont buy anything other than Aluminum at this point.

Personally I would not let the tailer keep me from buying a boat. There are other options and the tailer is a nominal expense in the grand scheme. Sell the tailer and get the one you like, because my guess is most will be painted steel.

29KILROY 07-19-2010 11:34 AM

Here for a Tread that is going now where....

http://www.offshoreonly.com/classifi...o35053-en.html

1MOSES1 07-19-2010 12:15 PM

I recently put an offer in on a 2001 29' baja outlaw with optioned 496 motors...Seller wanted 50k. My original offer without trailer was... 25k.

I heard back from the broker today...The seller wants 29k. The deal is as good as done pending survey and sea trial. This should be done this weekend.

Just need to find an aluminum trailer.

1MOSES1 07-19-2010 12:18 PM

^^I should mention that it has twin 496's...

Hopefully all goes as planned...

SuperTaz 07-19-2010 02:01 PM

29 for an 01 with 496's???? Somethin fisshhy :party-smiley-004:

sonic69 07-19-2010 03:18 PM

It would make me wonder a little bit, but if you had it surveyed and they say it's good you made out.

1MOSES1 07-19-2010 04:24 PM

The owner is having a pre survey conducted to ensure everything is mechanically sound...the boat has been on the market for over a year and the owner wants it sold. It took some broker convincing but we have a preliminary deal in place.

JasonSmith 07-19-2010 05:00 PM

$29k down? When is the rest due?


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