Trick Marine whats the deal?????????
11-20-2007 | 06:20 PM
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The summer sale was going on just a month ago!!! 
http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/s...d.php?t=162108
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11-20-2007 | 06:24 PM
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There are a number of unfortunate circumstances surrounding the Trick situation, Fred, customers, suppliers, etc. However I can't help but feel that a significant disservice to the forum environment has been committed by members of OSO itself. I can't count how many times a low count or even a higher count poster would come on here and describe a situation or complain about Trick service only to be shot down by Trick flag wavers, and there are quite a few of them. The member would basically be bludgeoned into submission by these members. After seeing this gang mentality, those who would have posted siding with the original poster would not do so in fear of receiving the same treatment and I can't blame them one bit. So in dealing with the actual Trick service facts we now have a situation where the forum's credibility is now in question in my mind. Above all else we want to trust the members of the board to do the right thing, but obviously this needs to be tempered with one's own good judgement. This is bad on so many levels it hurts.
11-20-2007 | 06:27 PM
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CMI to Stellings, Livorsi to Gaffrig, I'll add one, Dana to Eddie (on billet). In all cases the outgoing suppliers did not get paid. I know this is fact. The CMI number was large so my guess would be everyone else would be behind them in BK proceeding if that is what is occurring (which I do not know if that is the case).
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11-20-2007 | 06:31 PM
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11-20-2007 | 06:34 PM
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11-20-2007 | 06:39 PM
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Don't go outing me, this is not my work. I have no dog in this fight nor do I want one. The IP address in question is not from my computer however, I have used the laptop from which those posts came and from what I understand that is the association.
Let me make it very clear. I obviously know who Hamilton is and he wishes to stay anonymous. This is none of my business and if he wishes he can come out. Enjoy all speculations to the contrary.
I have stayed as far away from this hotwire as possible. Fred is well liked and some here will defend him to the bitter end. The facts to the contrary however are coming out from those directly involved, why add more.
Fred and I have had our differences over the years. In fact, there have been some pretty ugly discussions behind the scenes. Neither he nor I brought it into the public forum and I respected that of him. With his popularity on this site I would have been toast and he knew it. We have long since resolved our business issues and made amends. This is a VERY hard business to be in, particularly now. Problems like this only hurt the industry as a whole and make it yet more difficult for small marine businesses to get a foothold. Hopefully all will be resolved and I trust Trick Marine will do the right thing. On a personal level Fred and his daughter Joy are very nice people, however... business is business.
As Steve has always said, "for the love of the sport".
Fionn (Lofty) O'Neill
Let me make it very clear. I obviously know who Hamilton is and he wishes to stay anonymous. This is none of my business and if he wishes he can come out. Enjoy all speculations to the contrary.
I have stayed as far away from this hotwire as possible. Fred is well liked and some here will defend him to the bitter end. The facts to the contrary however are coming out from those directly involved, why add more.
Fred and I have had our differences over the years. In fact, there have been some pretty ugly discussions behind the scenes. Neither he nor I brought it into the public forum and I respected that of him. With his popularity on this site I would have been toast and he knew it. We have long since resolved our business issues and made amends. This is a VERY hard business to be in, particularly now. Problems like this only hurt the industry as a whole and make it yet more difficult for small marine businesses to get a foothold. Hopefully all will be resolved and I trust Trick Marine will do the right thing. On a personal level Fred and his daughter Joy are very nice people, however... business is business.
As Steve has always said, "for the love of the sport".
Fionn (Lofty) O'Neill
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11-20-2007 | 07:02 PM
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There are a number of unfortunate circumstances surrounding the Trick situation, Fred, customers, suppliers, etc. However I can't help but feel that a significant disservice to the forum environment has been committed by members of OSO itself. I can't count how many times a low count or even a higher count poster would come on here and describe a situation or complain about Trick service only to be shot down by Trick flag wavers, and there are quite a few of them. The member would basically be bludgeoned into submission by these members. After seeing this gang mentality, those who would have posted siding with the original poster would not do so in fear of receiving the same treatment and I can't blame them one bit. So in dealing with the actual Trick service facts we now have a situation where the forum's credibility is now in question in my mind. Above all else we want to trust the members of the board to do the right thing, but obviously this needs to be tempered with one's own good judgement. This is bad on so many levels it hurts.
11-20-2007 | 07:03 PM
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Don't go outing me, this is not my work. I have no dog in this fight nor do I want one. The IP address in question is not from my computer however, I have used the laptop from which those posts came and from what I understand that is the association.
Let me make it very clear. I obviously know who Hamilton is and he wishes to stay anonymous. This is none of my business and if he wishes he can come out. Enjoy all speculations to the contrary.
I have stayed as far away from this hotwire as possible. Fred is well liked and some here will defend him to the bitter end. The facts to the contrary however are coming out from those directly involved, why add more.
Fred and I have had our differences over the years. In fact, there have been some pretty ugly discussions behind the scenes. Neither he nor I brought it into the public forum and I respected that of him. With his popularity on this site I would have been toast and he knew it. We have long since resolved our business issues and made amends. This is a VERY hard business to be in, particularly now. Problems like this only hurt the industry as a whole and make it yet more difficult for small marine businesses to get a foothold. Hopefully all will be resolved and I trust Trick Marine will do the right thing. On a personal level Fred and his daughter Joy are very nice people, however... business is business.
As Steve has always said, "for the love of the sport".
Fionn (Lofty) O'Neill
Let me make it very clear. I obviously know who Hamilton is and he wishes to stay anonymous. This is none of my business and if he wishes he can come out. Enjoy all speculations to the contrary.
I have stayed as far away from this hotwire as possible. Fred is well liked and some here will defend him to the bitter end. The facts to the contrary however are coming out from those directly involved, why add more.
Fred and I have had our differences over the years. In fact, there have been some pretty ugly discussions behind the scenes. Neither he nor I brought it into the public forum and I respected that of him. With his popularity on this site I would have been toast and he knew it. We have long since resolved our business issues and made amends. This is a VERY hard business to be in, particularly now. Problems like this only hurt the industry as a whole and make it yet more difficult for small marine businesses to get a foothold. Hopefully all will be resolved and I trust Trick Marine will do the right thing. On a personal level Fred and his daughter Joy are very nice people, however... business is business.
As Steve has always said, "for the love of the sport".
Fionn (Lofty) O'Neill
11-20-2007 | 07:03 PM
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Fred took his ball and left the court atleast 2 times in the past and vowed never to return,,, That was until he dediced to start a marine parts business and make money off forum members... I don't ever remember him being tossed..
11-20-2007 | 07:11 PM
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It's no different on OSO than any other forum. It's just reality. If in fact Lofty, who we have had great dealings with, is in fact Hamilton, maybe it's just a matter of gathering the facts/comments vs begging for coming out.
Once again......
