Here is an actual audio clip from their last board meeting.
http://www.entertonement.com/clips/z...-Curly-Howard-

nahhh they arent good enough for the stooges...this is them.

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I have to just wonder, if any of them still active in their two-word thread, have called CS to ask him what is blatantly apparent to everyone else. I mean, this isn't make believe stuff, it's a fairly simple question. If he answered them like he has on this board, most rational people would just turn and walk away.

It is possible they know the truth but have no where to walk away to. That's why they try to protect it, jeapordizing themselves in doing so. To them living with the lie is at least still living. A very sad situation. Just a guess..........

How old are you? Is this really what this is coming to? Calling out every single last person who doesnt join the hate campaign? Anyone who still posts on Serious Offshore is a worthless piece of chit in your eyes? Obviously you have a beef with Chris but apparenlty thats not good enough. You want to label anyone who posts there an "enabler" so you call them out? Poke childish names?? Really? Whiskey Tango Foxtrot!?!?!?!?!

I've sat back and watched this whole thing unfold. If you dont like Chris thats fine. But, FU8K YOU! and the horse you rode in on if you think for a seccond your going to throw under the bus the rest of the guys and gals that have worked to build Serious. Call Chris out all you want but drag Bob and John into it, man your really scratching the bottom.

Rob, how many friends could you call at this very seccond to bail you out of a pinch?

In the end this sport is yet further divided, something we dont have room for.

Hey Thrilly
I don't recall you chastizing Bob and John in like manner when they mouth off about Rob.......So Fork you 2. And I don't care how old you are!
Ed

Ed, no reason to throw rocks or names. This whole thing just seems childish.


I started internet boating for the love of the sport. If I have to pick a side, then I guess, I'll walk wkay.

You know thats not true......

Even though we occasionally drive a point through ridicule, there is nothing childish about the product. Love of the Sport won't tolerate the skullduggery indefinately nor it's supporters. You can't walk away far enough. IE......The old offshore outlaw names still ride the threads in infamey, even though they have not been seen hide nor hair of..........

Ok Tony,
You are 100 percent correct, anyone that supports that site in my opinion is allowing a known liar and cheat to operate. Sure maybe he has done some things to help you, but thats how a con man works. dont worry your day will come where you realize it, may be 6 months may be a year, but when your sitting there with him listening to him spin such a wonderful tale about what he has done with his life, what is going to spark the light in your head that he has lied about all this crap to you and Donzi girl too? What did you do to deserve to be lied to in such a manner?

As far as my being childish, my post is in direct response to Bobcat coming on here under the name filobuster and posting. John has come over here and said his piece as well, so your standing up for them has no merit. I was there since the beging as well. Have any of us come over there and started any threads or posted anything hateful? why don't you call the real children names. Have fun over there, but don't expect to not get a rebuttal if they come here and start posting stupid crap.. pm heather or another mod if you want to check the ip add for the name filobuster ;)...they stepped in front of that bus with no help from me.

your question about what the sport has suffered? Well what the hell has another lying thief that steals from the kids and is allowed to operate a website done for it?? wtf are you thinking? He is doing more damage by not slinking back into his hole and disappearing than the others put together, because he is still actively promoting and trying to get money from people, not for the sport, but for his site!

I have plenty of friends that I can call if needed, even in other states, the ticket there is I haven't lied to or mislead them. My generosity for my friends when they were down and helping in this sport had been noted for years with no blemishes. Can you guys say that? not as long as you support Chris Sunkin.

FiloBobster!!!!!!! What a devious cowardly weasel.......excessive fillofboozetostir the demons out, no doubt. How long can Sunkin buy drinks with that hundred? Must have bilked more $........lot's more...... The FBI has their work cut out for them on this one.

Tony
I have seen no worse from Rob than the treatment I received from other members of the SOS board while I was STILL AN ACTIVE MEMBER. I was there from day one Tony and probably spent more cumulative hours acting as a Mod than anyone else involved.
When all this started and the TRUE history of Chris Sunkin came floating to the surface, I said nothing about my gut feelings towards Chris.
He was pizzed because I did not come on OSO and beat his drum and defend him and his actions. Oddly enough, if you ask the right people, I had been DEFENDING his childish actions for months already behind the scenes. You surely must have seen the regular incindiary posts he put up here on OSO. Essentially challenging Rob to poke him in the public eye.

Well, with NO proof of any wrong doing on my part what so ever other than NOT coming on here as he requested and falsely declaring that everything being said about him was a lie and how great of a person and offshore authority he was, he descided which side of the "fight" I was to be on. No one else, him.

Shouldn't Chris's upstanding and exemplary moral standards, the ones he brags of so often in his posts have stopped him from allowing anyone to slander me?

Should not have John's righteous ways have prevented him from being a false accuser?

Chris sure didn't stop John the self righteous one from jumping on the hater band wagon because of my friendship with Alec and insinuating over and over that I couldn't be trusted did he?

John certainly made sure everyone read about his utter disdain
for alec. Called him every childish name in the book. Made other insinuations about MY FRIEND'S character. He was the one declaring that Alec was a greedy azzhole who was after power and money. He was the biggest accuser in the B o D of serious.

Unfortunately, when you make false accusations and others know the truth, you not only look the fool, you are the fool.

John came here posting his self righteous diatribes, none of US went there and did it.
How do you defend someone as two faced as John is?
One day sucking up to Alec, next his sworn enemy and denouncer?

Chris's high standards and impecable ethics did not stop him from deleting all proof of his lies when he closed the board room and wiped its history away did it? How about while sending me PM's telling me how sorry he was that he let the personal attacks against me by other members of his board go on, he reopened the Moderators room BUT, "FORGOT" to include me.
I was told by 3 other board members that it was back up. I pm'd Chris and he lied to me and said in fact, the other 3 were lieing to me and f in me over because of my friendship with HIS enemy.

I heard other things said about me behind my back once I was precluded from the B o D discussions. Most not very nice either.

People who, for their two faced, self righteous attitudes of grandeur deserve to have the bus PARKED on them.

The only one who, beside myself called out BS was Mark ( Cosmic) and guess what, after watching the BS Chris was allowing certain directors to sling at other directors with no base in fact, he was the first to quit.

Pots shouldn't be calling kettles names.

PS, considering who has left the site as an active board member, I would say most who actually DID the building have joined Elvis .

Thrill.... Rob was refering to the second user name that Bobcat logged on with and posted 20 B.S. posts, I deleted them but missed Robs comment or I would have delete that too....

see and people think I get special treatment :evilb: if anything she watches me more because I'm pretty blunt :D

Throughout this whole mess I have seen at least 3 recent posts alluding to violence . None of them came from the accuser's side of the argument.
Both flagwavers. If that isnt childish I don't know what is.

Two of the references came from Fund.

I think he just missed that post or something.


My .02 - I've refrained from posting in most of this. I've watched most of it unfold but haven't watched the last couple of weeks as much since it has turned into mud slinging and a witch hunt. Yes, Chris has been nothing but nice to Tony and I, has helped out out etc. I know many of you have similar stories. There's no getting around the fact he seems to have posted many stories that can be traced elsewhere. I can't defend any of that and I don't intend to.

Honestly, most of this has turned me off of intenet boating forums. I only frequent our site and occasionally the Donzi forums.

Tony's point (I think) and the one I'm trying to make is that because we enjoyed what Serious stood for, doesn't mean I/we can defend the choices he's made. Just because you post on a certain site doesn't make you a target for the mudslinging. The people I respect out of this the most out of this are CigDaze, Craig, Expensive Date, and AirPacker. They are the people who choose to walk away and not get involved in the BS. They went boating. And really, that's what it's supposed to be about in case anyone forgot. Boating. Going fast, big waves, a good sun tan and napping on a sun pad.

Excellent post, excellent points. Only problem is, they will label you an "ENABLER" if they dont like it. If I had a nickle for everytime the word ENABLER was used in the 1/2 dozen threads on this subject, I would have............................a sh*tload of nickles!

Probably 6 nickles in total.

Elizabeth is right. Boating, catching some rays and big water is what its all about.
You need a boat to do that though.

Had a great winter and put 93 hours on my boat in Florida .

Before you edit that, do you realize how many members of OSO are currently boatless?

True - but most of us have real friends who have boats and invite us to go ... cuz we dont wear our shoes on other peoples sun pads :eek::D

I dont care how many are currently boatless. Has nothing to do with owning the boat.
I took lots of people boating this winter that dont own a boat.

Enjoying actual boating and the comraderie involved was the point.

Nice try there though.

Ok, I swore that said "You need a boat to do that though".

It did.

It didnt say you needed to own the boat.

If you dont own a boat or if you have one that has lived its life in your driveway or in the back of a warehouse or someones shop its nice if you have friends that will share your love of the sport and big water by inviting you boating.

There is a huge difference between 2 people if one says " I have never owned a boat but love the water and all that goes with this sport" and the other person that has never owned a boat that has been in water that says " I am a boat racer that has owned every significant boat ever manufactured , fallen out of them at speed 3 times blah blah blah"

Next ??

You guys forgot to mention drinking with your boating friends. (not while operating the boat).

OOPS

Yeah...and drinking with your boating friends while not operating the boat.

How I forgot that point with the crew I was surrounded with this winter is beyond me.:drink::drink:

Strange, I always thought it was the scam artists, liars, thieves, and other predatory personalities that were the turn off.

Alcohol+brain cells = less brain cells. :evilb:

Thanks for all the boat rides, pal. :kiss:

[QUOTE=catastrophe;3128694If you dont own a boat or if you have one that has lived its life in your driveway or in the back of a warehouse or someones shop its nice if you have friends that will share your love of the sport and big water by inviting you boating.
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Hey you leave me the Fuc out of this!!! :party-smiley-004::lolhit::eek::grinser010::evilb::drink:

DonziChick
I don't target anyone because they post on SOS. Do I want SOS to expire? Yes, because it is owned by an evil man and he uses it as a platform for skullduggery. Sorry, but the two cannot be seperated.
While I can appreciate your respecting people that walk away from Sunkin in relative silence, I simply cannot do that in this case. Bilking a sick childrens charity is too offensive to me. As long as Sunkin remains, I will never let it go. It's not BS, it's a real...living...breathing....threatening problem. It must be faced and stopped. It cannot be allowed to continue and grow.
Lastly, yes...powerboating is a truely a great sport.
Ed

Well it appears anything I post you are going to tailor to suit your needs because after all, you're Alec, owner of the 44 Nortech and more money than Kid Rock. It seems many have a personal agenda here, and your has always been "look at me and look what Ive done" (boat rides, charity money, etc). Remember this quote?

I bet damn well you wouldnt make a donation out of the goodness of your heart to a charity like that unless it was made public. Prove me wrong and make a generous donation to that same charity without making it public on here and I will NEVER post on this thread or subject again. You have my word. Email me the details and proof of the donation and I will never bring it up again. This is merely pennies to you, so it should present no challenge, you'll get to shut me up and its a win/win situation for the kids. Looking forward to your PM.:kiss:

But the alcohol only kills off the slow brain cells. And that makes you smarter :)

Good post, However, I stopped posting on serious in Dec of 09, I walked away no different than the 4 you mentioned, except I sent Chris an email letting him know what i thought of him, no different than the 4 that offered to purchase the site. so what does that make me in your eyes? I'm, curious, because I'm no different than either you or tony, I was the sole person that invited Chris To Cambridge, where he met Ted and Craig for the first time..hell I was the one that introduced them, am I less a person because I told Chris he is full of sh!t. I enjoyed what serious originally stood for as I was there in the beginning as well, I mean this with no disrespect, however the fact that I tell someone to stop lying to me and everyone else makes me a bad person??? huh go figure, I would think that people would like to boat amongst boaters that dont lie, and actually have boats..what was I thinking?
I wrote my original letter to Chris in Dec of 09, and walked away, never said a word to anyone, you guys probably didnt even know I was gone. in late Feb early March I was contacted by a couple of the 4 you mentioned and they asked me for clarification on a few things and I did. I never said a word to anyone other than a couple of my closest friends who also kept silent while the 4 you mentioned checked into things. Yet you only respect them? I bet you wouldn't feel the same if I was helping to out someone that did you wrong! I don't want or need anyone's respect but you need to realize that Chris Sunkins lies affected many more people than those you mentioned, quite a few in small town Ohio, this goes much deeper than "internet" boating. Real boating is either owning one or participating by being there and supporting it, not Lying about it. You can call it whatever you want, like me, not like me, but Chris sunkin is a Liar and a theif. and as Ed posted he and his site need to go away, as long as it is there, new people are out there ready to fall for his lies, the same ones he told everyone on oso over 7 years.

No offense Greg, but this post makes you look pretty bad, the only reason he said it was so piddly, was because he knew there was more that people had given, and the fact that Chris couldn't/wouldn't step up and account for it properly Alec put in more of his own money. What did you expect, he bought the room for the raffle as well as paid for T shirts to be given away. None of this came forward until the thievery of the charity money was found out. How can you say that Alec is self serving? That's insulting to many of us on many diff levels that have donated. How many charity's have I donated too? you will never know, the only part of Alec's philanthropy that has been brought forth ONLY pertains to the rip off that Chris tried to pull.

Wow......go have some more cocktails. That's the only excuse for some of these posts. Just like Bob Mathews yesterday......he probably had previously walked across the lot to the store and pulled a few tabs yesterday. No biggie.....party on!! :drink::drink:

PS. We're kinda boatless this summer too (operating ones)!

It doesnt make me look bad when he privately apologized to me for making that statement when I called him out on it. But its back to the "look at me and what Ive done" stage. How can you NOT see that? Because your busy googling for pictures of dirtbikes and houses? Who cares at this point, after hundreds of pages, there is nothing left to cover. Seriously, what else is left but to make jokes about this?

Since you got me started, lets shift gears and answer one more question Ive been wondering about. Why dont you let SOS die a slow death and start your own site the same way that site got started? You guys bailed on OSO when there were problems, but when the grass wasnt greener on the other side of the fence, you came back. Not looking to get blasted for this, just curious as to why that didnt happen.

Come to sunny Ohio and your more than welcome to use my boat. This boat will make you a man on Lake Erie, and its just your size Nort! :party-smiley-004: :drink:

Sonny, I keep trying to not dislike you and you keep making stupider and stupider posts that have NOTHING to do with the subject at hand and all seem to be about directing attention at yourself.

You don't know near as much as you think you do and you are WAY out of line with this post.

Well, you have just jumped the friggin shark dipstick. You have absolutely no f in idea who you are calling out. None.
I won't even wait for Alec to respond to this line of utter bull chit. I am going to do it for him.

You are attempting to shame one of the most philanthropic people you could ever meet in this world into making a charitable donation?
What a joke. I woud be willing to bet you your entire net worth that Alec has selflessly given more money away to seriously ill children than you have ever earned in your life and not once has he ever asked to be patted on the back for doing it.

Time for you to grow a set and stop swinging on Sunkins.
Your BS isn't as impressive as you think it is.



Oh, and by the by, Alec does own an offshore boat and a big sea ray at the same time, just like your hero CLAIMED repeatedly to have but in Alec's case, its reality and he has witnesses who have not only seen him on those boats, but gone boating with him and even taken pictures. Unlike Sunkins imaginary Fantasy World of boating where no one can ever say they were on his boat or provide ONE single picture.

Hey Jay, any chance you have even just ONE picture of Alec and some of his real life friends on one of his real life boats ? :)

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