I was making a smirky remark.... and can nothing but agree.
I used to run a vacation center for cancer foundation once in my life that included a lot of children that we provided some light and joy in their days of pain.

Same raffle. The prize was the room at KW.
Maybe thats the confusion.

For the record Old School is being facetious; CS is NOT a long-time boating friend. I met him for the first time in Key West 2008.

This part is true: I have never seen Chris in his own boat.

I put in alot of promotional effort over there and can relate to those who put in even more time thru moderation, etc. only to end up with a credibility problem. The site may survive but will forever be tainted. The whole issue is really sad for all involved and unfortunate to say the least. Fortunately I've been getting busier with work opportunities and have less time for all this...and its time to go boating. I'm really looking forward to the Florida next month.

Ok that's what I thought, I also remember at the party there was a banner that people signed and based on the amount a signatures a donation was to be made to Make a Wish, it should have been in the area of $700.00. Was that money donated and did the site pay it or did someone personally cover that.

SOS did have a lot of volunteers at Key West, but most of those people go anyway. I do think being tied to OSO made it more fun and garnished them more exposure than if they just went as an average Joe.

Like other members here I was not happy when I was invited to be a charter member of SOS. I felt our community did not need another forum and told that to several of the SOS board members. I felt another site would dilute this one and the new site would probably never take the place of OSO or get as big anyway. However when so many people I knew started posting there I gave in and did. Gradually I even went there more than here. I found it fun, but not because of CS, but because of the people there. So now the chit hit the fan or at least that's what some say and now people I like are fighting with each other and some will not come here and some will not go there, so LOL hindsight is really 20/20:lolhit:

At this point I still don't know what to believe. From people I know and trust I hear: "Chris has owned a bunch of boats, and claim to have seen several in his storage building and that he currently has a 35 Cig at Glass Dave's shop". I also recall Sean Stinson claiming to know one or two of the boats Chris had. However on the other hand I have never seen him on a boat or know of anyone that has ridden on his boat and since I attend a lot of the Lake Erie events I would think our paths should have crossed by now. I also wonder why people that have first-hand knowledge of (the boats he owns) don't speak up, or most importantly why Chris does not post proof since this goes to the very heart of his credibility. Let's face it, if he faked or embellished that he had a certain type of in ground pool, bike, or drove a certain kind of car, people might be annoyed, but not feel so duped and betrayed. So if Chris or anyone has some evidence of offshore boats that were owned by him, please post some photos or information. I know many of you would prefer to hang him, but I guess I would still prefer to find out his stories were not all smoke and mirrors, not for me personally but I think it's best for the overall offshore internet community.

I never went to SOS because of Chris and I never became a paid supporter, lately I don't got there or here that often. However I will post on there or here if the spirit moves me, heck I might even get a wild hair and post on Speedwake or Boatfreaks:drink: But no matter where I post does not mean that I am supporting the owner, manager, or a group of individuals it's just because there was a topic that made me feel like posting a reply

Any more info on this charity effort? Can anyone confirm that this money actually went to Make a Wish?

I pulled $100 out of my pocket and donated on behalf of Active Thunder. I'd like to know it went to the Charity.

Who did you give the $100.00. I remember Jay giving me a hundred to pay the bar bill











:party-smiley-004: so sorry just kidding:drink:

CS, and I watched him put it in his wallet.

Since I have received a few emails on this, I'll comment. I collected most of the money that evening for the banner. I had people write their names on the money that they donated so we would have a way to draw names for the door prize stuff later in the evening. All of the money that I collected went into a bucket and after the names were pulled, the money was given to chris sunkin.

That being said, it was at that time his responsibility to donate the money. I'm not saying that it did or did not go to the charity. I simply have no way to verify it. I hope that it did. Another lesson learned.... never do anything charity related without getting a receipt. :) Maybe someone else can confirm what was done with the money in the end. I actually have no idea how much money was collected.

I'm just sayin' :rolleyes::mad:

I can say one thing, I was highly pizzed off later in the evening after buying a beer from the bar and getting my change that had the peoples' names written on it with the red magic marker that I had been handing them. After confronting "that guy" and asking WTF he was doing, I was told by him that he had cashed all of the small bills in at the bar for larger bills that would be easier to keep track of. That may have been the case, but in my opinion it was a stupid thing to do.


See my signature below for the rest of the story.

2 things..

1. I call BS on cashing the "small bills" in. Maybe it's just me

2. As far a receipts for charity. Yes under regular circumstances but in this case we should be able to trust anyone in our community under threat of having you phucking hands and legs broken if you pull that sh!t on us. I'm not kidding around.

Can't someone just get solid proof of all this stuff (or even just a couple things) and justice can be dealt out swiftly and we can move on?

11-16-2009, 11:37 PM #17
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Originally Posted by Sydwayz
Sydwayz & AT represented!


Brian, thanks to you and Active Thunder for your generous donation, glad to see you there.


I normally don't cut and paste from one site to the next. But it looks like your donation was made public, so it probably went to the charity.

A while back I collected donations on behalf of a group for a friend that died, some people gave me cash, some personal checks and one person wrote the check to the charity but gave it to me. I think it was the American Heart Association. One of the people that I did not know well asked for a copy of the receipt, when I gotten it from charity they did not include the check that was made out to them directly (which makes sense) I never thought much about it, but then a heard there was a rumor going around that I did not give all the money to the charity, anyway that was cleared up easily when the person emailed everyone that her check was made out directly to the charity. So from now on, if I give more than about $25.00 I am going to write the check directly to the charity, of course with a raffel that is probably harder (but not impossible to do)

There is no proof Bill, That's what make's it suck so much more. :(

Donna, stand by.....or do a little more research to figure it all out. ;) You obviously haven't caught on to the clear pattern here. Ted posting that thank you to Brian doesn't mean a darn thing. Thanks for bringing it up (not really :(). Alec Cloke wrote a check to the charity for $1000 after the Key West week.......he just didn't get any of the cash!!! That's just one more thing that we are finally figuring out. Ughhhh....

For the record I will say that my total involvement in that charity event was donating and holding the bucket for a bit. I simply was thanking Brian because he made a public donation in the name of AT that night . I have no idea what happened to the cash but IIRC Alec wrote a check for some amount to charity for the party also.

Apparently Craig and I were writing at the same time :angry-smiley-038:

Sorry more cutting and pasting today, I found this on a diffrent thread that Alec started, this is from him, and if I know Alec, he probably added his own cash to the pot and either him or Chris sent the check,

Seriousoffshore.com would like to thank all those that participated in the Charitable portion of our 1st Anniversary Party.
With all of the revelry during the evening its a testament to the kind hearts out there that took time to sign the banner and make this donation a reality.

THANK YOU ALL

A cheque for $1,000.00 was forwarded to them today on behalf our partygoers.

Craig now I was typing as you were posting, if Alec did not get any of the cash, and sent a check out of his own account, IMHO this problem is bigger than the drawing. If that's the case how come this was not brought to light sooner.

Set aside about three hours and read all of the threads in the beware and stolen section here. I really don't care to rehash it all again......or you could give chris sunkin a call and get a "different version" of how he is the victim here and all of us good people who actually have boats are out to get him. :rolleyes: It's up to you! LOL :kiss:

I seriously doubt anyone would have let this embarrassment continue when they could have provided slam dunk proof and made his attackers look pretty silly. The only things posted thus far for the defense have been an altered bank statement, and a picture of a boat and truck that were not his.

When accusations involve one's character, especially in this type of community, the response should be swift and deafening. Although the character issues are pretty serious, all of the accusations could be quickly and soundly defeated by anyone that had the facts to do so.

Instead, pretty preposterous notions were served up by the defense that contained no substance, no validation, and most of the more serious things were not even addressed at all. In fact, I've seen nothing anyone that refutes any of the accusations. Quite remarkable given the number of threads and the vast number of posts.

Dontcha think?

Sorry but I don't have time to search other threads before making a comment on this thread, perhaps you could help others like me that are low on time and merge all the threads together if you feel they would make more sense.

This is the first time since 11-2009 I have thought of or saw mention of the Key West party donation. Since I was there and contributed just a little, I am now currious about the donation and money trail. I decided to phone the South Florida Chapter Location of MAW, there are two locations one in FLauderdale and one in Bonita, and they work off the same datat base. I spoke to the gal that records the donations and she was very nice and will verify a donation with no problem. I found that in Oct. Chris Sunkin under his own name and address donated $500.00 for a bike, for a kid named Mike Copper. That was the only donation they had from him and there was no record of Serious Offshore on their books ever making a donation. She also said they cross reference business and organization names with personal names. I could not inquire about Alec since I do not know his last name. So unless Alec or someone else received money from Chris and then sent it on their own personal check it would appear that the Make a Wish of South Florida has no donation from SOS

Craig, was there a thread on the party donation and the money trail? if so would you mind posting a link.

I'm sorry Donna, but none of us can log into SOS anymore. Our passwords (as well as many other people's) were changed so private messages could be read. You'll have to do that yourself. :)

I'm not trying to be rude, but you are a little late on this one. It's been an embarrassing mess that I have tried to stay out of except when my credibility has been questioned. I'm not interested in being the one who kicks the hornets nest this week. I would suggest that you read the threads before grabbing a machine gun and shooting in all directions. :)

With respect,
Craig

:party-smiley-004:

Hello.....here is the "rivers head" thread HERE with references to other links about Mr. Bull$hit Con Man Fake Paratrooper Non-Boater Liar Internet Bully nammed Chris Sunkin. Grap a bottle of wine and forget the glass and just read it.......because it is UGLY.

LOL.....I agree. more BS!!! Cash out the small bills. LOL!!!

LOL Heather, I read your post 2x times trying to figure it, and then it hit me, Cloke is his last name. See that's the trouble with all this stuff, most people like me only skim the posts and don't digest and memorize every single line, keep in mind this is supposed to be fun, not our job.:p

Although his military service statements bother me I would not call him a "fake paratrooper" yet.
Now........if you want to prove it the National Archives grants freedom of information queries about a persons military service.

Thank you Nort, wish I had the time to read it all, maybe someday I will. In the meantime, I will just ask Alec
if Chris gave him any of the cash from the party.

Why would this be the ONLY thing that he's told the truth about? :D For fun......just faxed in my request HERE.

I cant wait to read the outcome of this:grinser010:

You arent going to find my name anywhere.

The money I sent to help kids I sent to Platinum Power Boat Club.

That money is MY money and has nothing to do with any cash that was handled in KW.

I didnt touch the money from $1 donations or T shirt sales in KW. ( BTW the T shirts that were sold were paid for by me personally)

Subsequent to this event I have given $ 2000.00 in March to help those kids and have pledged $ 2000.00 more for this summer.

Dont get my money and the money that was handed to Chris Sunkin by Craig Hall mixed up here.

Craig has already quoted Sunkin as having it changed to larger bills.
Brian saw his go into Chris's wallet.

What I did do that evening to promote donations was ask 2 friends to donate some prizes.

Jayboat donated a large print which I know he delivered.
Bill Taylor from PRA donated an entry fee to a 2010 run which was handed to the winner.

Keep the topics seperate.

No one handled the donated money other than Chris Sunkin.

I read this and I'm still not sure when I might get a response. Sometime between now and when I get it. :D :D

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about $760.00 or close to that I had sent Alec a check to round it off to $800.00 but for some reason he never got it or at least thats what he says:drink: personaly I think he got it and ripped it up knowing the chit I was going through at the time:kiss:, eather way it was never drawn on my account.
He told me he put in the rest to make it an even $1000.00.
That's just what he does.:drink:

OOPS.... just saw what went up while I was type'n.

Good Grief! I just had a Cerebral Hemorrhage................

I never got .05 of any KW donations.

I sent money because our team did a great job that week.

PERIOD.

and I really didnt get your check bud.:kiss:

Wow so now i am even more confused, Cosmic, how did you get the money to send to Alec, or try to send to him. How come you sent Alec a check and not Chris, sorry to ask so many questions, but each post on this is more confusing than the next, especially compared to what threads on SOS that were not started by Sunkin stated.

Donna

Cosmic did NOT handle any of this money. He wasnt there.
He called me and asked if he could contribute HIS OWN money after the event.

Dont drag him into this. He has nothing to do with this topic.

Alec I reread his post about three times and finally realized what he was saying was that he called you to find out how much was collected and planned to send you the differnce. Sorry but his post was a tad confusing when you are not in the loop. I get it now and then to be perfectly clear is this statement true, money donated at the bar never made it to you to be included in your donation to Platinum or from what I can tell was ever donated to make a Wish of South Fl by SOS or on behalf of SOS.

I will ask someone that I know that is still friendly with Sunkin to prove this false if he can.

Donna,
If you have been drinking, stop and read the other threads.

If you have not been drinking, start....and read the threads.

:drink::drink::drink:

Yes, I am being a smartazz now, but as I already said, you're about 6 weeks late and need to catch up if you are planning on solving this puzzle. :D

Asking hard questions on SOS will get you banned....and your posts will disappear. Carry on. :)

Just wanted to say that Bob and I are in a marina in the Dominican Republic, waiting on the drug guys to come check us out so we can go to our hotel.

Even from another country this thread is still entertaining! :lolhit:

Keep up the good work, fellas.

Where did all the "donation" money go when SOS was first started? When he gave out supporter status etc etc

LOL.......are you for real? Chris Sunkin is a pathalogial liar and a fake. Any people that are still "friendly" with Chris Sunkin are suckers and/or enablers at best, or are just plain old uneducated.

Like you said, you haven't been following this or on the boards much but you expect to unraval Sunkin's web of lies in 2-3 posts? :D