I had a lot of communication with the sellers (in both deals). The first was with a reputable dealer that provided pics and videos of pretty much each component and at the price, even if it had been a basket case I could have rebuilt it and still been looking good. The second boat was from a guy on here, again, lots of pics and videos and communication.

Sounds like the seller of the Cig, mentioned here, doesn't communicate very well.....

I can tell you from experience that no bank would release funds if the title is not signed and notarized. How was that going to happen if the person selling the boat was not even listed on the title???
I had a wife forge her dead husbands name on the title on a boat I was going to buy and the bank caught it somehow, they then informed me that in no way shape or form would they do any business with the lady involved and if I wanted the boat that I would need to get financing somewhere else.

yes it would.. no duty applied

For what it's worth -- I've been on the boat with Duffy and Kirstie, while they owned it -- not the new owner that hasn't changed the ownership....

The boat runs out very well with the power and set up -- Duffy put a lot of money, sweat and time into that boat -- it's a shame that this guy is trying to pull this scam with this boat...

You should tell Duffy about this thread. If the the guy that has possession of the boat hurts or kills someone, the lawyers could very well go after Duffy because the boat is still titled to him. I don't even see how he could finance or get insurance without the boat being in his name. Regardless, I think Duffy has some unwanted exposure here because of this guy....

Still not convinced he is trying to pull a "Scam", I think the guy is just a jerk.

To me a scam is someone that doesn't even have possession, trying to get money for something that doesn't exist. I believe this guy wants to sell the boat, and was most likely a cash buyer.

Don't expect everyone to know how lengthy and detailed a boat sale has to be when a bank is involved. Sounds to me that the seller was probably a cash buyer, so him obtaining the boat most likely went clean and smooth. I can't imagine the hoops you would have to jump through for a bank on a 30 year old performance boat. This was not a classified ad, but an auction.

Again.....devils advocate, just thinking out loud I don't think the seller is handling business well, but I also have not seen proof that he is in Kerplakistan sitting on a camel with a mac book either.

The guy has some impressive, high dollar item feedback as a seller. Porsche Carrera S, Hummer H1, and Eliminator Boat.

You can't honestly believe that can you? So you are telling me it is the responsibility of the SELLER to insure that the sold product is registered, insured and title has changed names? And the boat is in the different country! Proof of sale on Duffy's part would make him free and clear, there isn't a court in America that would take that case. Come on

Should I check on everything I have sold in the past to make sure the title is not in my name anymore? And how would one go about doing that? We should all get to work on this crisis immediately

Definition of SCAM: A dishonest way to make money by deceiving people

Going by the definition, it is a scam in regards to his self-admitted dishonesty in regards to the location of the boat. Also, it is technically illegal to sell an item with an "open title". How would that bill of sale go? There is no reason whatsoever for the seller to not have the boat titled in his name and to correctly identify its location.

Again, sounds like the seller has a boat to sell, just didn't like the terms of the last buyer. He has perfect feed back on high dollar items. And still, we only know half the story.

This is a direct cut from the ad

"THE ENGINES HAVE 100 HOURS, WITH BLOWERS 5 POUNDS BOOST, THE CABIN IS IN VERY GOOD CONDITION,EXTRA CLEAN BOAT!!! (LOWER RESERVE!!!!!GOOD LUCK!!

(If you are waiting for a loan to purchase the Boat, Don't BiD, make sure you have the money Before!! Don't do like the last Bitter, That's why the Boat is Relisted again!!)

DON'T WASTE MY TIME!! THANK YOU!!"

Who bids on something like this, with a phone number in the ad, without calling before bidding? All of this should have took place before hand. The "buyer" is not without fault. Would you go to a local auction, win a bid, then call them a week later and ask for assistance with the loan? Its august, dude wants to sell his boat while he still can.

FYI -- Duffy is aware of this thread -- he told me about it...

He has a signed bill of sale and the money in the bank for a while now -- don't think a lawyer could go after him for anything.

It is none of my business -- but I don't believe it was a smooth transaction in dealing with this particular character when Duffy sold either -- might just be his nature...he should still title the boat and list it properly.

Dave