Beware of '38 Top Gun on Ebay
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From: Kingsville----lake erie
I wonder if the seller has some kind of dealer license that allows him to not have to transfer registration? I would think it should still have to get transferred though -- anyone know how that works in Quebec -- where everything is a little bit different btw....
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From: Northern Indiana
Again, sounds like the seller has a boat to sell, just didn't like the terms of the last buyer. He has perfect feed back on high dollar items. And still, we only know half the story.
This is a direct cut from the ad
"THE ENGINES HAVE 100 HOURS, WITH BLOWERS 5 POUNDS BOOST, THE CABIN IS IN VERY GOOD CONDITION,EXTRA CLEAN BOAT!!! (LOWER RESERVE!!!!!GOOD LUCK!!
(If you are waiting for a loan to purchase the Boat, Don't BiD, make sure you have the money Before!! Don't do like the last Bitter, That's why the Boat is Relisted again!!)
DON'T WASTE MY TIME!! THANK YOU!!"
Who bids on something like this, with a phone number in the ad, without calling before bidding? All of this should have took place before hand. The "buyer" is not without fault. Would you go to a local auction, win a bid, then call them a week later and ask for assistance with the loan? Its august, dude wants to sell his boat while he still can.
This is a direct cut from the ad
"THE ENGINES HAVE 100 HOURS, WITH BLOWERS 5 POUNDS BOOST, THE CABIN IS IN VERY GOOD CONDITION,EXTRA CLEAN BOAT!!! (LOWER RESERVE!!!!!GOOD LUCK!!
(If you are waiting for a loan to purchase the Boat, Don't BiD, make sure you have the money Before!! Don't do like the last Bitter, That's why the Boat is Relisted again!!)
DON'T WASTE MY TIME!! THANK YOU!!"
Who bids on something like this, with a phone number in the ad, without calling before bidding? All of this should have took place before hand. The "buyer" is not without fault. Would you go to a local auction, win a bid, then call them a week later and ask for assistance with the loan? Its august, dude wants to sell his boat while he still can.
#73
I'll say quebec, but probably whole canada. if the boat is already canadian titled, I can sell it to a buyer (wich I did yesterday in fact with my maxum 3000 !!!
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you fill in some paper as seller, give it to buyer to sign, then send it by mail in Halifax nova scotia, in order to get the title in your name, then receive it like 3 to 4 weeks later.
I personally, if I buy cash a canadian boat, can keep the old title from seller under his name, and I know many run not insured, so easy to keep title to old owner and not have problem with insurance since they don't insure.
you want to insure it? the title is only printed on a 8 1/2 x 11 piece of regular paper, so you can easyly change it in house with new owner name on it, give it to insurance, while in reality title has not been changed!
)you fill in some paper as seller, give it to buyer to sign, then send it by mail in Halifax nova scotia, in order to get the title in your name, then receive it like 3 to 4 weeks later.
I personally, if I buy cash a canadian boat, can keep the old title from seller under his name, and I know many run not insured, so easy to keep title to old owner and not have problem with insurance since they don't insure.
you want to insure it? the title is only printed on a 8 1/2 x 11 piece of regular paper, so you can easyly change it in house with new owner name on it, give it to insurance, while in reality title has not been changed!
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and by the way I asked this seller how he could insure the boat since he did not have a survey of maximum 5 years old and... the boat is not insured!
don't agree with this, I always insure my toys, but many many run uninsured, trust me! of course non financed boats...
don't agree with this, I always insure my toys, but many many run uninsured, trust me! of course non financed boats...
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From: Chattanooga
You can't honestly believe that can you? So you are telling me it is the responsibility of the SELLER to insure that the sold product is registered, insured and title has changed names? And the boat is in the different country! Proof of sale on Duffy's part would make him free and clear, there isn't a court in America that would take that case. Come on
Should I check on everything I have sold in the past to make sure the title is not in my name anymore? And how would one go about doing that? We should all get to work on this crisis immediately
Should I check on everything I have sold in the past to make sure the title is not in my name anymore? And how would one go about doing that? We should all get to work on this crisis immediately
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From: Northern Indiana
This is my last post on this thread, as I think it's starting to go off on wild tangents. We can do what-ifs and how-abouts and what the hell ever else, but there are a few simple facts that are undisputed.
1. The boat is listed as being in Florida, but is actually in a foreign country.
2. The boat is not titled to the seller
Those items raise red flags. All that anyone asks for is honesty. When tens of thousands of dollars are on the table, honesty is required. The listing should clearly state the location of the boat and the fact that it's titled in another party's name. Those items are very important and very relevant. At this point it really doesn't matter if the buyer was or was not able to purchase the boat, this discrepancies needed to be addressed, and he had every right to back out.
There are a few reasons I can think of to not title something in your name:
1. There is something wrong/incorrect with the title
2. You can't afford the tax (and therefore shouldn't have the d*mn thing anyway)
3. You are too cheap and want to cheat fees as much as possible (I read that as not trustworthy)
4. You're hiding assets or purchased it with ill-gotten funds
We are all big boys here. We all know how things are supposed to be and what is right. If the seller had all his ducks in a row, I would be on his side.
Gentlemen, we should only show support to sellers that have everything in line and represented correctly. I, for one, would not want win an auction only to find out I had to find my passport, cross a border, accept an open title that is dated god-knows when, and have a bill of sale that is technically invalid here in the US due to the seller not matching the owner listed on the title. Let's work on raising the bar on integrity instead of going back and forth about a situation that a little honesty and integrity would have prevented.
1. The boat is listed as being in Florida, but is actually in a foreign country.
2. The boat is not titled to the seller
Those items raise red flags. All that anyone asks for is honesty. When tens of thousands of dollars are on the table, honesty is required. The listing should clearly state the location of the boat and the fact that it's titled in another party's name. Those items are very important and very relevant. At this point it really doesn't matter if the buyer was or was not able to purchase the boat, this discrepancies needed to be addressed, and he had every right to back out.
There are a few reasons I can think of to not title something in your name:
1. There is something wrong/incorrect with the title
2. You can't afford the tax (and therefore shouldn't have the d*mn thing anyway)
3. You are too cheap and want to cheat fees as much as possible (I read that as not trustworthy)
4. You're hiding assets or purchased it with ill-gotten funds
We are all big boys here. We all know how things are supposed to be and what is right. If the seller had all his ducks in a row, I would be on his side.
Gentlemen, we should only show support to sellers that have everything in line and represented correctly. I, for one, would not want win an auction only to find out I had to find my passport, cross a border, accept an open title that is dated god-knows when, and have a bill of sale that is technically invalid here in the US due to the seller not matching the owner listed on the title. Let's work on raising the bar on integrity instead of going back and forth about a situation that a little honesty and integrity would have prevented.
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Again, sounds like the seller has a boat to sell, just didn't like the terms of the last buyer. He has perfect feed back on high dollar items. And still, we only know half the story.
This is a direct cut from the ad
"THE ENGINES HAVE 100 HOURS, WITH BLOWERS 5 POUNDS BOOST, THE CABIN IS IN VERY GOOD CONDITION,EXTRA CLEAN BOAT!!! (LOWER RESERVE!!!!!GOOD LUCK!!
(If you are waiting for a loan to purchase the Boat, Don't BiD, make sure you have the money Before!! Don't do like the last Bitter, That's why the Boat is Relisted again!!)
DON'T WASTE MY TIME!! THANK YOU!!"
Who bids on something like this, with a phone number in the ad, without calling before bidding? All of this should have took place before hand. The "buyer" is not without fault. Would you go to a local auction, win a bid, then call them a week later and ask for assistance with the loan? Its august, dude wants to sell his boat while he still can.
This is a direct cut from the ad
"THE ENGINES HAVE 100 HOURS, WITH BLOWERS 5 POUNDS BOOST, THE CABIN IS IN VERY GOOD CONDITION,EXTRA CLEAN BOAT!!! (LOWER RESERVE!!!!!GOOD LUCK!!
(If you are waiting for a loan to purchase the Boat, Don't BiD, make sure you have the money Before!! Don't do like the last Bitter, That's why the Boat is Relisted again!!)
DON'T WASTE MY TIME!! THANK YOU!!"
Who bids on something like this, with a phone number in the ad, without calling before bidding? All of this should have took place before hand. The "buyer" is not without fault. Would you go to a local auction, win a bid, then call them a week later and ask for assistance with the loan? Its august, dude wants to sell his boat while he still can.
He has a feedback of 7...7! With 3 things sold. That's impressive? But there is no way to fake any of that. Were you also impressed with his post on here? I found it very informative and intelligent.
And your still his #1 fan here..... I'm thinking you know him.
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From: Montreal, Canada
I don't know the seller and I don't know the buyer, but it just seems like a whole lot of miscommunication followed by a ****load of pontification. You guys should really give it a rest and get back to work so you can take the weekend off and go boating.
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