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4bus 10-02-2012 01:09 PM


Originally Posted by Donzi ZX (Post 3788581)
Must be. I didn't see you lift on the throttle or swerve in the one I saw.

Wow, u must have some pretty amazing cat like reflexes if you could have lifted ur throttle in .002 seconds, yes it happened that fast.

But you know right, cause you were there?

4bus 10-02-2012 01:10 PM


Originally Posted by riverrat (Post 3788585)
you answered your own question fella
slow it down and be careful ,don't ruin it for al of us .

Driving too fast for conditions !
Failure to avoid a collision !


Jeff

Total bs, please let me know what road you use to drive to work, I'll be sure and come down and cross into your lane at the very last second. If you hit me it will be your fault right?

4bus 10-02-2012 01:16 PM


Originally Posted by CrownHawg (Post 3788593)
Wait a minute! So there's this guy, out on the lake that is pretty much deserted and along comes this PWC wanting to "race" and HE is supposed to slow down? I can tell ya, if it were me, I'd have done the same thing. You guys are acting like he was plowing through a no wake zone with kids floating around!! The PWC CAME TO HIM!!! He was minding his own business and running his boat on an open lake.

BTW, how was he driving too fast for conditions? Wasn't the PWC doing so as well? He DID avoid the collision too!

Thank you.

Seems to me these guys are really upset about what COULD HAVE happened, but never did. Great way to live your life.

I am not wreckless, but caution is and always be an opinion. What is fast to your grandma might not be to John Tomlinson. I choose not to be a grandpa

HTRDLNCN 10-02-2012 01:30 PM


Originally Posted by 4bus (Post 3788574)
So if you ate driving down the road and someone pulls in front of you, and you can't stop in time it is you fault?

You people amaze me lol.

Yup....
In fact if they slam on the brakes on purpose for you to hit them it is still your fault unless there is a third party witness ..
Anytime you rearend a vehicle it is always your fault regardless what the other vehicle did to cause it UNLESS you have a third party to back you up as in multi car collisions.

Sydwayz 10-02-2012 01:39 PM

I think one thing that is not apparent is that some of us have seen first hand what happens when a go-fast boat like we all love is involved in an incident/accident that includes our own personal circle of friends, in our own "water holes". I've been close to it with two friends. Both of them had virtually the exact same thing happen to them: PWC drove into the side of both of their boats (42Fountain & 38TG) while at cruising speeds between 45 and 55 mph. One was fatal; the other damn close. Both of these folks have had to fight off the law and lawsuits for years; not to mention being chastised in their communities, as well as boats being impounded (even damaged while impounded); and beyond.

Knowing all of this, I don't take any chances with any boat in my vicinity, including PWCs. I'm not saying 4bus did either. But I do know how the rules of the water would be interpreted by the law and a jury; and I stand by my assessment based on those attributes. How they are interpreted by other crowds, including ours, and even The higher power, are irrelevant.

After stating all of that, I too am a long time PWC owner. I was taking a friends' daughter out for a ride a few weeks back; and I too found myself surprised by another vessel in my vicinity, while I was too busy concentrating on the safety of my passenger. Knowing that, I also assume that every PWCer is normally oblivious to their surroundings a majority of the time.

4bus 10-02-2012 01:41 PM


Originally Posted by HTRDLNCN (Post 3788660)
Yup....
In fact if they slam on the brakes on purpose for you to hit them it is still your fault unless there is a third party witness ..
Anytime you rearend a vehicle it is always your fault regardless what the other vehicle did to cause it UNLESS you have a third party to back you up as in multi car collisions.

Really? So I pull off a side street out in to traffic, I don't have to look? If someone t bones me it is their fault cause they couldn't stop in time?

How about if someone crosses into you lane on the highway, and impacts he side of your truck, your fault too cause you couldn't avoid?

Have you people lost your minds?

4bus 10-02-2012 01:45 PM


Originally Posted by riverrat (Post 3788663)
+1 but apparently not for this clown in central new yok lol
Jeff

Now I am a clown huh? Sounds like you are just a few brain cells away from being retarded if you that someone that pulls out in front of a vehicle is not at fault. Or turns into you lane on the highway and impacts your side.

I know midwesterners are generally slow, but this is basic stuff you learn on your permit test

4bus 10-02-2012 01:51 PM


Originally Posted by Sydwayz (Post 3788664)
I think one thing that is not apparent is that some of us have seen first hand what happens when a go-fast boat like we all love is involved in an incident/accident that includes our own personal circle of friends, in our own "water holes". I've been close to it with two friends. Both of them had virtually the exact same thing happen to them: PWC drove into the side of both of their boats (42Fountain & 38TG) while at cruising speeds between 45 and 55 mph. One was fatal; the other damn close. Both of these folks have had to fight off the law and lawsuits for years; not to mention being chastised in their communities, as well as boats being impounded (even damaged while impounded); and beyond.

Knowing all of this, I don't take any chances with any boat in my vicinity, including PWCs. I'm not saying 4bus did either. But I do know how the rules of the water would be interpreted by the law and a jury; and I stand by my assessment based on those attributes. How they are interpreted by other crowds, including ours, and even The higher power, are irrelevant.

After stating all of that, I too am a long time PWC owner. I was taking a friends' daughter out for a ride a few weeks back; and I too found myself surprised by another vessel in my vicinity, while I was too busy concentrating on the safety of my passenger. Knowing that, I also assume that every PWCer is normally oblivious to their surroundings a majority of the time.

Brian,

I agree with you 100 percent. No doubt that day changed my outlook on running anywhere near someone I do not know. However I also posted he video to show what can come to you, when you are simply making a straight heading.

Im still not sure if I would had did anything different if the same thing happened today.

If you look closer, had I lifted my throttle (assuming I had time) it may have slowed me enough for them not to be able to avoid me.

Sometimes holding your line is the best evasive maneuver you can make.

Btw, are you going to have any new thunders at key west in November? I would like to see a new 37 :D


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