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PhantomChaos 10-02-2012 05:21 PM


Originally Posted by 4bus (Post 3788772)
What you don't see is the jet ski "coming to get me" If I got off plane everytime a ski came to race, or jump a wake I would get no where. Sometimes they are like flies.

That wake was in video for about 4 seconds, that is how long that ski was next to me. When they came from the bay to my left they were making direct eye contact (both drive and pass) and I had already started to turn slightly left wondering what they were doing. Then then turned in line with me and got on it, so I stayed on it thinking they wanted to race (they always do)

What if the jet ski had a mechnical failure?
What if someone on the boat had a heart attack?
What if a rock dropped from the sky and killed us all?


Here is a secret, every single time you start your boat you are putting others and yourself at finanacial risk.

That ski came to me, I don't care what side they were on. I had 5 people on my boat and witnesses on shore. I was on a way to a friends house, in the back of the lake. Earlier that day they were chased down (and passed) by the same ski.

Lastly, had their been an accident this video would not exist

You are free to justify your actions anyway you want. Like I mentioned, I was just pointing out what I see in the video. IMO, you passed another vessel far too close to be safe at that speed.

Here is my Comments to your Questions:

Q1: What if the jet ski had a mechnical failure?
C1: This is something to consider and another reason you want a safe distance to the vessel you are over-taking.

Q2: What if someone on the boat had a heart attack?
C2: If you mean the driver of the boat, another reason to keep distance (more than 15-20 feet) frrom the vessel you are passing? Your Q1 above has a much higher possibility of happening.

Q3: What if a rock dropped from the sky and killed us all?
C3: This is just a silly comment to try and divert attention away from the issue that you passed another vessel at high speed with (to me) an unsafe distance between the vessels.


You can only be responsible for your own actions and passing too closely was just that.....your action.

POWERPLAY J 10-02-2012 05:46 PM

Right of way or not. That was an azzhat move for both parties. Lucky there was no collision or worse. :poopoo:

4bus 10-02-2012 06:04 PM

Tough crowd (or people just looking to troll and get a rize out of me) that jet ski was next to me for 4 seconds, 4 freaking seconds.

If I did anything wrong it was letting happen what I saw happen, they wanted to race so I held my line. I was suprised at the sharp turn, it is what it is.

If It happened again at that speed, for 4 seconds, I am not sure what I could have done. Turning a stepped hul at that speed is not an option, at least any more thant the gradual left turn I was already making. Dropping the sticks and letting the bow rise and losing site of the ski also was not an option. Maybe I should have chapped the throttles back and forth and turn the wheel hard and we could have had another video for the world?

Had 4 people plus me on the boat, the ski came to me, didn't think they deserved to be tossed around because a ski came to pester, race, wake jump, whatever.

Some please explain to me how chopping my throttles would have helped anything here. Maybe they would have ran into the side of my boat at 70 mph vs 90 mph? WTF, there is NO TIME. If I came off plane, as I once was they would have sped off, just like before, and waited until I came back on to race, and wake jump. Maybe I should have shut it off and waited until dark just to be safe? Maybe I should leave the boat on the dock, just to be safe......oh, there was no collision.

I am really surprised and disappointed in some of you, a ski comes out of no where and nearly bites it into the side of my boat. I held my line, held my line, held my line. I have just as much right to be there as anyone else.

Would love to go boating with you guys, just keep you on my left, and I'll be on your right.. look out! I am going to do everything possible to hit you, everything. If you come off plane I will wait unitl you go back on, then slam you from the side....after all, It will be my right of way right?

Donzi ZX 10-02-2012 06:49 PM


Originally Posted by 4bus (Post 3788857)
Would love to go boating with you guys, just keep you on my left, and I'll be on your right.. look out! I am going to do everything possible to hit you, everything. If you come off plane I will wait unitl you go back on, then slam you from the side....after all, It will be my right of way right?

Your words speak volumes.

I'm guessing you couldn't turn because you literally had no where to go:

Originally Posted by 4bus (Post 3788857)
I tried to give them more room but as you can see there is an island on my port side

But then you say the opposite, when justifying why there was lots of room to run 88mph:

Originally Posted by 4bus (Post 3788857)
The land looks closer on the camera than it is in real life, plenty of room to let your boat eat in that lake.

This is why speed and distance between vessels matter:

Originally Posted by 4bus (Post 3788857)
Happened so fast I didn't even have time to turn the wheel or back off.

So which one was it:

Originally Posted by 4bus (Post 3788857)
This jet ski and I were the only ones out.

Or:

Originally Posted by 4bus (Post 3788857)
Normally I run the south side of the island, there was a guy fishing on the south side of the island, just of the south shore point, I went to the north side.

IMO, if you chose the south route around the island (and would've avoided the jetski), you'd have to slow down because the fisherman. So instead you took a chance and went to the north, leaving only a narrow line to run:

Originally Posted by 4bus (Post 3788857)
8 ft of water if you stay close to the island and away from the north shore.

Here's a link to a map of the area in case anyone is curious (also a great spot to view nav charts for free). The incident sounds like it happened to the far left side of the map, right about where the "ISLES" of the "Lake of the Isles" is written on the map.

I think both parties shared fault; glad no one was hurt.

Donzi ZX 10-02-2012 06:50 PM

Whoops forgot to add the link:

Here's a link to a map of the area in case anyone is curious (also a great spot to view nav charts for free). The incident sounds like it happened to the far left side of the map, right about where the "ISLES" of the "Lake of the Isles" is written on the map.

http://www.charts.noaa.gov/OnLineViewer/14772.shtml

POWERPLAY J 10-02-2012 07:24 PM


Originally Posted by 4bus (Post 3788857)
Tough crowd (or people just looking to troll and get a rize out of me) that jet ski was next to me for 4 seconds, 4 freaking seconds.

If I did anything wrong it was letting happen what I saw happen, they wanted to race so I held my line. I was suprised at the sharp turn, it is what it is.

If It happened again at that speed, for 4 seconds, I aym not sure what I could have done. Turning a stepped hul at that speed is not an option, at least any more thant the gradual left turn I was already making. Dropping the sticks and letting the bow rise and losing site of the ski also was not an option. Maybe I should have chapped the throttles back and forth and turn the wheel hard and we could have had another video for the world?

Had 4 people plus me on the boat, the ski came to me, didn't think they deserved to be tossed around because a ski came to pester, race, wake jump, whatever.

Some please explain to me how chopping my throttles would have helped anything here. Maybe they would have ran into the side of my boat at 70 mph vs 90 mph? WTF, there is NO TIME. If I came off plane, as I once was they would have sped off, just like before, and waited until I came back on to race, and wake jump. Maybe I should have shut it off and waited until dark just to be safe? Maybe I should leave the boat on the dock, just to be safe......oh, there was no collision.

I am really surprised and disappointed in some of you, a ski comes out of no where and nearly bites it into the side of my boat. I held my line, held my line, held my line. I have just as much right to be there as anyone else.

Would love to go boating with you guys, just keep you on my left, and I'll be on your right.. look out! I am going to do everything possible to hit you, everything. If you come off plane I will wait unitl you go back on, then slam you from the side....after all, It will be my right of way right?

Not looking to debate or get a rise from you or anyone else. There is no reason to be that close to another vessel while under way. The dik hole jetski owners run up on boats here too, in fact a few boat owners do it also. It is the captains responsibility to put his passengers safety first. Simply holding your line because you had the right of way wasn't the safest choice as the video shows. Maybe an evasive maneuver would've been a bit much. Slowing down and gaining distance at first sight of the other vessel would have been a safer choice. My .02

4bus 10-02-2012 08:01 PM


Originally Posted by Donzi ZX (Post 3788898)

IMO, if you chose the south route around the island (and would've avoided the jetski), you'd have to slow down because the fisherman. So instead you took a chance and went to the north, leaving only a narrow line to run:

Absolutely avoided the fisherman, because I was out to GO FAST in my GO FAST boat. When I came on the island, there was no jet ski to be found.

4bus 10-02-2012 08:13 PM


Originally Posted by Donzi ZX (Post 3788900)
Whoops forgot to add the link:

Here's a link to a map of the area in case anyone is curious (also a great spot to view nav charts for free). The incident sounds like it happened to the far left side of the map, right about where the "ISLES" of the "Lake of the Isles" is written on the map.

http://www.charts.noaa.gov/OnLineViewer/14772.shtml

The island that is happened near is labled "Baileys Island" on your map, being such an expert of the area I thought you might know that. We all know you can see so much from just a video, figured you saw that too

Here is a google map, showing the size and distance of what you consider a small area, based on the convex lens of a go-pro

http://maps.google.com/?ll=44.333426...84543&t=m&z=14

You really saved the planet today Donzi ZX 26, thanks for making boating safer for everyone.

From now on if I can see land, a boat, even a bird I will stay off plane (slowest it will go with tabs down is 45, and we all know that is too fast) so I will wait, for that moment when it is ok with everyone to finally give it some gas.

Nah...scratch that, I will continue to boat as I have for 20 + years, but now with the new found knowledge that I can plow into the side on of anyone on my left! Because I infact have the all mighty "right of way" no matter how erractically I am driving.

US1 Fountain 10-02-2012 09:36 PM

Sure was a pucker factor. :)

I don't understand why if the jetski driver had made eye contact a few times, or even if just noticed your boat, why did the driver still turn towards you? Crazy.


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