Booze and Boats - Is the Marraige on the Rocks?
08-26-2011, 05:56 AM
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A few beers over the course of the day got a guy convicted up here in Maine after he allegedly ran over a boat later that night. The accident received lots of media play because it was a 32' boat supposedly running over a 16' boat, but as soon as alcohol became involved, it fanned the flames of hatred toward the owner of the bigger, performance-style boat. Skip the beers until you're done for the day.
His boat, named Impatience, ran over 100 feet inland with the motors still running The Judge was astounded, since he lied about his drinking (.11 after 3 hours after the accident), his speed (obvious by how far inland the boat got), and showed no remorse at all. It's guys like that that doom the freedom for everyone. Unfortunately, he'll probably be back in the news at some point.
http://www.milforddailynews.com/news...or-fatal-crash
08-26-2011, 10:11 AM
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I that case, the driver of the boat had 23 previous speeding convictions on the road His boat, named Impatience, ran over 100 feet inland with the motors still running The Judge was astounded, since he lied about his drinking (.11 after 3 hours after the accident), his speed (obvious by how far inland the boat got), and showed no remorse at all.
It's guys like that that doom the freedom for everyone. Unfortunately, he'll probably be back in the news at some point.
http://www.milforddailynews.com/news...or-fatal-crash
His boat, named Impatience, ran over 100 feet inland with the motors still running The Judge was astounded, since he lied about his drinking (.11 after 3 hours after the accident), his speed (obvious by how far inland the boat got), and showed no remorse at all. It's guys like that that doom the freedom for everyone. Unfortunately, he'll probably be back in the news at some point.
http://www.milforddailynews.com/news...or-fatal-crash
THREE YEARS IN PRISION FOR KILLING TWO PEOPLE! BECAUSE OF HIS DRUNKIN ASS! THAT IS NO JUSTICE THAT IS NOT EVEN A SLAP ON THE WRIST! WHAT HAPPEND TO JUSTICE IN THE COUNTRY! HELL BE OUT SOON!
08-26-2011, 11:49 AM
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I that case, the driver of the boat had 23 previous speeding convictions on the road His boat, named Impatience, ran over 100 feet inland with the motors still running The Judge was astounded, since he lied about his drinking (.11 after 3 hours after the accident), his speed (obvious by how far inland the boat got), and showed no remorse at all.
It's guys like that that doom the freedom for everyone. Unfortunately, he'll probably be back in the news at some point.
http://www.milforddailynews.com/news...or-fatal-crash
His boat, named Impatience, ran over 100 feet inland with the motors still running The Judge was astounded, since he lied about his drinking (.11 after 3 hours after the accident), his speed (obvious by how far inland the boat got), and showed no remorse at all. It's guys like that that doom the freedom for everyone. Unfortunately, he'll probably be back in the news at some point.
http://www.milforddailynews.com/news...or-fatal-crash
08-26-2011, 01:23 PM
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You guys are totally dismissing the fact that the small boat may not have had any lights illuminated on his boat at the time, I think that's why the sentence was 3.5 years versus a manslaughter charge. It was at night with no moon, if the other guy had no lights, it could have been one of you that ran over him.
Before you start, I'm not defending the guy that was drunk, just saying if the guy didn't have lights on it could happen to any of us (except me because I pretty much quit boating at night after reading story after story like this). Now, the fact that he was concerned about his boat after the accident and not the victims, that's worth 5 years in and of itself.
Before you start, I'm not defending the guy that was drunk, just saying if the guy didn't have lights on it could happen to any of us (except me because I pretty much quit boating at night after reading story after story like this). Now, the fact that he was concerned about his boat after the accident and not the victims, that's worth 5 years in and of itself.
08-26-2011, 01:23 PM
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This is a touchy one for sure. No drinking is of course the only way to prevent a stupid alchohol related accident. You definitley have to assume every person you encounter while boating is drunk.
I am one of those who thinks that a couple beers over the course of a day is ok, but I know my own limits and can actually hold myself to that. I will say I think it depends on the kind of boat you have as well. In michigan it is legal to be below .08 on the water just as on land. However on land people who have CDL's for example are held to different standards. I think there should be something similar for boaters. Anything over 500hp for example should be zero tollerance. If your boat goes 75mph you should not be drinking. Someone who has 4 beers and is operating a pontoon boat is a lot different than someone who is in a go-fast after 4 beers.
I am one of those who thinks that a couple beers over the course of a day is ok, but I know my own limits and can actually hold myself to that. I will say I think it depends on the kind of boat you have as well. In michigan it is legal to be below .08 on the water just as on land. However on land people who have CDL's for example are held to different standards. I think there should be something similar for boaters. Anything over 500hp for example should be zero tollerance. If your boat goes 75mph you should not be drinking. Someone who has 4 beers and is operating a pontoon boat is a lot different than someone who is in a go-fast after 4 beers.
08-29-2011, 02:26 PM
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This is a touchy one for sure. No drinking is of course the only way to prevent a stupid alchohol related accident. You definitley have to assume every person you encounter while boating is drunk.
I am one of those who thinks that a couple beers over the course of a day is ok, but I know my own limits and can actually hold myself to that. I will say I think it depends on the kind of boat you have as well. In michigan it is legal to be below .08 on the water just as on land. However on land people who have CDL's for example are held to different standards. I think there should be something similar for boaters. Anything over 500hp for example should be zero tollerance. If your boat goes 75mph you should not be drinking. Someone who has 4 beers and is operating a pontoon boat is a lot different than someone who is in a go-fast after 4 beers.
I am one of those who thinks that a couple beers over the course of a day is ok, but I know my own limits and can actually hold myself to that. I will say I think it depends on the kind of boat you have as well. In michigan it is legal to be below .08 on the water just as on land. However on land people who have CDL's for example are held to different standards. I think there should be something similar for boaters. Anything over 500hp for example should be zero tollerance. If your boat goes 75mph you should not be drinking. Someone who has 4 beers and is operating a pontoon boat is a lot different than someone who is in a go-fast after 4 beers.
This would just create many more loop holes, as if there not enough already.
08-30-2011, 07:53 PM
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This is a touchy one for sure. No drinking is of course the only way to prevent a stupid alchohol related accident. You definitley have to assume every person you encounter while boating is drunk.
I am one of those who thinks that a couple beers over the course of a day is ok, but I know my own limits and can actually hold myself to that. I will say I think it depends on the kind of boat you have as well. In michigan it is legal to be below .08 on the water just as on land. However on land people who have CDL's for example are held to different standards. I think there should be something similar for boaters. Anything over 500hp for example should be zero tollerance. If your boat goes 75mph you should not be drinking. Someone who has 4 beers and is operating a pontoon boat is a lot different than someone who is in a go-fast after 4 beers.
I am one of those who thinks that a couple beers over the course of a day is ok, but I know my own limits and can actually hold myself to that. I will say I think it depends on the kind of boat you have as well. In michigan it is legal to be below .08 on the water just as on land. However on land people who have CDL's for example are held to different standards. I think there should be something similar for boaters. Anything over 500hp for example should be zero tollerance. If your boat goes 75mph you should not be drinking. Someone who has 4 beers and is operating a pontoon boat is a lot different than someone who is in a go-fast after 4 beers.
I will agree with you in that one should know one's own limitations and live within them.
However the rest of the post is just stupidity. One can harn or kill another just as fast on a tooner as one can in a perf boat. Anyone explain to you that dead is dead, how one got there is somewhat irrevelant to the dead individual!!!
To rationalize this kind of behavior on that basis is just plain irresponsible. Period!
Perhaps the level should be tied to one's IQ, smart folks can be wasted, dumb azz ignorant folks not so much.
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08-30-2011, 08:16 PM
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I will agree with you in that one should know one's own limitations and live within them.
However the rest of the post is just stupidity. One can harn or kill another just as fast on a tooner as one can in a perf boat. Anyone explain to you that dead is dead, how one got there is somewhat irrevelant to the dead individual!!!
To rationalize this kind of behavior on that basis is just plain irresponsible. Period!
Perhaps the level should be tied to one's IQ, smart folks can be wasted, dumb azz ignorant folks not so much.
However the rest of the post is just stupidity. One can harn or kill another just as fast on a tooner as one can in a perf boat. Anyone explain to you that dead is dead, how one got there is somewhat irrevelant to the dead individual!!!
To rationalize this kind of behavior on that basis is just plain irresponsible. Period!
Perhaps the level should be tied to one's IQ, smart folks can be wasted, dumb azz ignorant folks not so much.
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However the rest of the post is just stupidity. One can harn or kill another just as fast on a tooner as one can in a perf boat. Anyone explain to you that dead is dead, how one got there is somewhat irrevelant to the dead individual!!!
To rationalize this kind of behavior on that basis is just plain irresponsible. Period!
To rationalize this kind of behavior on that basis is just plain irresponsible. Period!
